The generic Hearts thread

[CloudSquall]

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I don't have the intellectual capacity to understand the complexities of managing a huge, famous institution the size of Hearts.
I asked a friend who operates within a multi national business to explain how the Budge business model works in layman's terms.

He explained it in a simple manner which I still struggle to comprehend but I'll pass on what I was told.

Think about it in terms of a multi national tinned fruit company such as Del Monte. They have a director in overall charge of delivering produce to all major customers, he fails to have all the fruits tinned as required and millions of pounds worth of fruit is wasted and has to be written off.

The C.E.O, under pressure from investors has no choice but to relieve the director from his position.
The failed director's second in command is then given the job but he also fails to have the fruit put into the tins as required and further fruit has to be written off.
In despair the C.E.O. then employs a director from a rival tinned fruit company even though he is still under contract there.
When the new director arrives to take up his role at the fruit factory he is told he can't bring his own management team and he is required to work alongside the two directors who have been deemed unfit for purpose and were thought to have been relieved of their duties.
The new director quickly realises he has been set up as a patsy and goes to The Diggers to get steaming with the companies customers before jumping on the first flight back to Hanover, changing at Heathrow because there are no direct flights from the fruit factory.

Could he explain it again but incorporate the use of pegs, caravans and burning spoons?

Would be a tremendous help to us unsavvy Hobos

[FilipinoHibs]

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Totally sympathise. Who knew they sold tinned fruit at diggers!

Accirding to a friend who works in finance the great Hearts business model is quite common. Underperforming directors are kept on at their full salaries and given different roles but still relating to their original roles. A new director is brought in who is still under contract to a rival. He takes on the original role of the existing directors. He meets resistance to changes he wants to implement and there are no significant improvements in performance.

On the financial side the company has been operating at a real loss only propped up by large donations. They have overspent on infrastructure which is not up to standard. They have paid over the odds for the wrong raw materials. The donations dry up and pay compensation for the new director. They have to cut their cloth accordingly. The raw materials are off loaded at bargain prices and the size of their stock dramatically cut. Their ambitions to operate as a market leader have disappeared and they now operate as a second tier company. The old and new directors have left/paid off and the company is now run by small shareholders who have appointed a director from a small company in the lower tiers of the industry.

[Since452]

Benni McCarthy claiming he had talks to become Hearts manager too. So Stendel 4th choice

[Keith_M]

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So its not dissimilar to the People's Front of Judea and The Judean People's Front. We just can't get our heads round this amazingly simple arrangement, can we.

What have the Roman(ov)s ever done for us?

[The 90+2]

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Benni McCarthy claiming he had talks to become Hearts manager too. So Stendel 4th choice

He’s desperate for a managers job in this country so probably just trying to get himself in the media.

[Northernhibee]

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And I thought our song threads were bad...

[FilipinoHibs]

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https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index...l-song-thread/

And I thought our song threads were bad...

Jeez you can see why their songbook is so small. Who is going to sing that?

[Peevemor]

"It was a special moment and I got a really good impression from him when he showed me all the facilities"

"After a short time I realised who he was, of course. It’s special but not so different from other situations in other clubs."

"I didn’t actually know it at first – and then I thought maybe this was not a little bit normal."

All of the above quote are from the EEN interview So apart from not knowing who Hearts were, he doesn't seem to have bothered looking into who had just been sacked from the job (otherwise he would have reckognised him)

I think it's hilarious - Potter started showing him around and it took a while for it to dawn on Stendel who he was, he then says that it's not really unusual then admits that it's pretty weird all the same

[Kato]

Read the press interview with Budge this morning where she claims that before going for "something different" she considered getting "a Craig Levein clone" in as manager. Please don't tell me they're making replicas of him, one is dull enough.

[HoboHarry]

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Jeez you can see why their songbook is so small. Who is going to sing that?

Someone needs to give them their Etch a Sketches back to keep them busy and do us all a favour.....

[Bostonhibby]

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"It was a special moment and I got a really good impression from him when he showed me all the facilities"

"After a short time I realised who he was, of course. It’s special but not so different from other situations in other clubs."

"I didn’t actually know it at first – and then I thought maybe this was not a little bit normal."

All of the above quote are from the EEN interview So apart from not knowing who Hearts were, he doesn't seem to have bothered looking into who had just been sacked from the job (otherwise he would have reckognised him)

I think it's hilarious - Potter started showing him around and it took a while for it to dawn on Stendel who he was, he then says that it's not really unusual then admits that it's pretty weird all the same

Bonkers, even by their own comical standards, you have to feel for the new guy, bet he's never shown the new guy round after he got sacked the last time.

Working off the daily hangover is bad enough without being dragged around hockey pitches at Riccarton by some jakey when it should be obvious to all concerned that the pubs/bookies have just opened.

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[Col2]

Budge now quoted in EEN in a heartfelt summary of how fundamentally difficult it is to appoint an out of work head coach in 6 weeks.... “ I spoke to Craig about Daniel and others as potential managers and what did they know about him, if anything. It was the same as I did with other folk.”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/ann-budge-reveals-details-hearts-recruitment-process-and-her-interviews-different-managers-1338436

So when Levein was removed as manager and DoF but still remained at the club we all knew deep down this was a fudge and he would remain involved as budge just can’t face him leaving her/the club....all the hearts fans I knew were saying he won’t be involved, will be only involved with youth team etc etc.

Since then he has been confirmed:-

1. with Budge down south seeing Man City re Hickey
2. Gave the new coach Stendel a tour of the training ground - beyond weird
3. As above heavily involved in selection of head coach
4. Now joint Sporting Director with MacPhee

Let’s be clear Levein still runs the football operation. Stendel is going to just love the upcoming interactions with him 😂

I give Stendel until early next year and he will be away.

[ACLeith]

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I give Stendel until early next year and he will be away.

Hopefully because he’s sacked having never won a game and they’re isolated in 12th Place

[Since452]

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"It was a special moment and I got a really good impression from him when he showed me all the facilities"

"After a short time I realised who he was, of course. It’s special but not so different from other situations in other clubs."

"I didn’t actually know it at first – and then I thought maybe this was not a little bit normal."

All of the above quote are from the EEN interview So apart from not knowing who Hearts were, he doesn't seem to have bothered looking into who had just been sacked from the job (otherwise he would have reckognised him)

I think it's hilarious - Potter started showing him around and it took a while for it to dawn on Stendel who he was, he then says that it's not really unusual then admits that it's pretty weird all the same

Is it just me or does he seem to talk in riddles? I'm maybe being too harsh with the language barrier

[Peevemor]

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Is it just me or does he seem to talk in riddles? I'm maybe being too harsh with the language barrier

It's definitely a language thing.

[matty_f]

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Budge now quoted in EEN in a heartfelt summary of how fundamentally difficult it is to appoint an out of work head coach in 6 weeks.... “ I spoke to Craig about Daniel and others as potential managers and what did they know about him, if anything. It was the same as I did with other folk.”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/ann-budge-reveals-details-hearts-recruitment-process-and-her-interviews-different-managers-1338436

So when Levein was removed as manager and DoF but still remained at the club we all knew deep down this was a fudge and he would remain involved as budge just can’t face him leaving her/the club....all the hearts fans I knew were saying he won’t be involved, will be only involved with youth team etc etc.

Since then he has been confirmed:-

1. with Budge down south seeing Man City re Hickey
2. Gave the new coach Stendel a tour of the training ground - beyond weird
3. As above heavily involved in selection of head coach
4. Now joint Sporting Director with MacPhee

Let’s be clear Levein still runs the football operation. Stendel is going to just love the upcoming interactions with him 😂

I give Stendel until early next year and he will be away.

I made that point on the podcast last night, Levein's still hugely involved at Hearts, if he wasn't then what Budge is effectively saying that she's recruited him herself - which would be bonkers.

[Groathillgrump]

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And I thought our song threads were bad...

They haven't even played a game under Stendel yet and they're already making up songs about how great he is and how exciting his style of football is.

Bunch of weirdos.

[ehf]

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And I thought our song threads were bad...

Stendel's at the wheel
Tell me, how good does it feel?
He's a clueless, incompetent clown
And he's taking the jambos back down
Na, na, na, na

[Since452]

Cheer up Daniel Stendel
Oh what can it mean
To a, drunk German bassa
And a, ***** football team

Simple

[WillowbraeHibby]

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They haven't even played a game under Stendel yet and they're already making up songs about how great he is and how exciting his style of football is.

Bunch of weirdos.

I went over for a look... Yep, you're correct.. :)

[The 90+2]

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Stendel's at the wheel
Tell me, how good does it feel?
He's a clueless, incompetent clown
And he's taking the jambos back down
Na, na, na, na

👍👍👍

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Cheer up Daniel Stendel
Oh what can it mean
To a, drunk German bassa
And a, ***** football team

Simple

Replace German with Jambo or they'll have us for racist chanting. Otherwise...

[Col2]

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I made that point on the podcast last night, Levein's still hugely involved at Hearts, if he wasn't then what Budge is effectively saying that she's recruited him herself - which would be bonkers.

Budge suggest at the time she would get advice from wider football people which started rumor re Walter Smith (hence Stuart McCall and Neil Mcann).

[Col2]

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Replace German with Jambo or they'll have us for racist chanting. Otherwise...

You just can’t say anything nowadays 😂😂

[Hibeesmad]

Levein and MacPhee should have been punted right out the club 6 weeks ago. They both must be swinging into her.

[Alan62]

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And I thought our song threads were bad...

Hibs.net song threads are horrible but this is definitely the Champions' League of Cringe. The epic 'Mr. Stendel' is a wonder of the genre composed, I can only imagine, by a chubby middle-aged chap while sitting at his desk in Standard Life/The Council/RBS and sung in its entirety only the once to his unfortunate Mrs/spinster sister before their TV dinner on Tuesday night. Of course, he'll try to strike up a rendition on Saturday but its general complexity will be overwhelmed by the award-winning atmosphere as a bumper sell-out crowd of nearly 19,051 turn up to cheer Mr. Stendel's swashbuckling boys in maroon for the first time.

[Joe6-2]

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And I thought our song threads were bad...

That’s embarrassing
More obsession with Hibs!

[we are hibs]

Was it not Stendel who got battered from Joey Barton. Just remembered that

[worcesterhibby]

Stendel seems to be one of those guys who thing that if you leave your hair unwashed for long enough, it begins to clean itself with natural oils....It doesn't, it just looks greasy and unkempt.

[Jim44]

Levein is a Budge crutch ........ my God, that sounds disgusting.