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  1. 31-10-2019 12:38 PM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hackett View Post
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    I have a vague memory of IDS addressing a Conservative conference as a schoolboy... and being the same odious little person that he is today.
    That might have been William Hague
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  2. 31-10-2019 12:39 PM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bee View Post
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    Pretty hypocritical of BJ considering 16 year olds were allowed to vote in his leadership contest.
    Bet there was LOADS of them as well
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  3. 31-10-2019 01:24 PM #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    IpsosMORI/EveningStandard poll

    Conservatives 41% (+8)
    Labour 24% (nc)
    Lib Dems 20% (-3)
    Brexit Party 7% (-3)
    Greens 3% (-1)

    Fieldwork: 1,006 GB adults by telephone. 25th - 28th October

    Hmmm, Brexit party seem to be fading. If they stay quiet or stand aside then things look bleak indeed with such a big Lab/Lib split.

    I've often thought the Libs should just **** off. I mean what's the point of them really?
    I think deep down, everybody knows what the purpose of the Lib Dems are. They just won't admit it to themselves.
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  4. 31-10-2019 01:40 PM #64
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    If I lived in England the Libs would get my vote. Not interested in hard left or right.


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  5. 31-10-2019 02:03 PM #65
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    LibCons election leaflet

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  6. 31-10-2019 02:06 PM #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Hague maybe?

    https://youtu.be/qL_p9qjfu5U

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    Correct! And IDS is quite tall. Perhaps his personality is odious. I'd go along with that.
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  7. 31-10-2019 02:21 PM #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    LibCons election leaflet

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    Which constituency/area is that from?
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  8. 31-10-2019 02:32 PM #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    Which constituency/area is that from?
    I might be wrong but I read Edinburgh West (our very own .net favourite Christine Jardine's stomping ground )

    Vote breakdown from 2017 was Lib Dem 18k, SNP 15k, Tories 11k, I'm not really sure who they think would move from Lib Dem to Tory, their remain and unionist vote would stay with them rather than move to the Tories.

    Edit: It is Edinburgh West, saw a bigger image and the small print confirms it's "Printed, published & promoted on behalf of Christine Jardine’"
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  9. 31-10-2019 02:42 PM #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    If I lived in England the Libs would get my vote. Not interested in hard left or right.


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    If the Libs didn't exist, most of them would be in Labour and it would shift to be more centrist.

    The UK electoral system is built for 2 party politics. If there's 1 party on the right, there needs to be just 1 on the left.
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  10. 31-10-2019 02:45 PM #70
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    Greens standing in every constituency in Edinburgh.

    https://www.edinburghgreens.org.uk/s...r-election-19/
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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  11. 31-10-2019 03:10 PM #71
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    https://twitter.com/WilliamDuguid1/s...015580673?s=09
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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  12. 31-10-2019 03:16 PM #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    I can see where the SNP are coming from in an area I presume isn't too hot on indy, but I think being so "meh" on independence the last time around meant a lot of pro yes voters stayed at home while Ruth got the unionist vote out and the SNP ended up 20 seats down.
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  13. 31-10-2019 03:44 PM #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    That's not a good start. The SNP have to put Independence at the heart of this election so there is no doubt about the mandate for a second referendum.
    Every gimmick hungry yob,
    Digging gold from rock and roll
    Grabs the mic to tell us,
    He'll die before he's sold.
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  14. 31-10-2019 04:22 PM #74
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    General election 2019

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    That's not a good start. The SNP have to put Independence at the heart of this election so there is no doubt about the mandate for a second referendum.
    Doubt that matters. All you ever hear from unionists is that all the SNP talk about is independence. Then when the SNP win they claim the SNP never mentioned independence enough so they have no mandate. No matter the reality, that’s what will be said.


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  15. 31-10-2019 05:05 PM #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    That's not a good start. The SNP have to put Independence at the heart of this election so there is no doubt about the mandate for a second referendum.
    My constituency and I will be campaigning for the SNP and the main message from me will be about the benefits to be gained from Scotland being an independent nation. Not sure who thought that leaflet is the best way forward
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/Peston/st...65748116099073

    Crack open a bottle of fine wine and sit back for 3 minutes of Trump and Farage on LBC .

    Not sure how Farage is going to play this election yet.
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  17. 31-10-2019 05:22 PM #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudSquall View Post
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/Peston/st...65748116099073

    Crack open a bottle of fine wine and sit back for 3 minutes of Trump and Farage on LBC .

    Not sure how Farage is going to play this election yet.
    Two bit of useful info there. Trump thinks Boris’s deal rules out a trade deal with America and it looks like Farage is going to go after Boris in the election.


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  18. 31-10-2019 06:33 PM #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Two bit of useful info there. Trump thinks Boris’s deal rules out a trade deal with America and it looks like Farage is going to go after Boris in the election.
    Hope so. If he does Ni-gel, Ni-gel will destroy Johnson.
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  19. 31-10-2019 08:19 PM #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Hague maybe?

    https://youtu.be/qL_p9qjfu5U

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    That's the one. Shows how memory plays tricks on you... or that they all just merge into one big ball of slime.

    Thanks to the other correctors
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    Bet there was LOADS of them as well


    That just cracked me up
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  21. 31-10-2019 08:39 PM #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Greens standing in every constituency in Edinburgh.

    https://www.edinburghgreens.org.uk/s...r-election-19/
    And will have my vote

    Nationally I would love to see the Tories punted.
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  22. 31-10-2019 09:05 PM #82
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    I'd be quite happy if they all just took November off and started the campaign on 1 December. Six weeks of this.....
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  23. 01-11-2019 08:59 AM #83
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    If Farage and Johnson make a pact then we're ****ed.
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  24. 01-11-2019 09:10 AM #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    https://www.bestforbritain.org/getvoting

    I posted this link yesterday. It's a tactical voting guide to getting rid of Tories.

    Disappointingly, they either don't know their arse from their elbow here or they've bottled it: no recommendations in Scotland. We need to get rid of those 13 Tories and if that means 10 SNP and 3 Lib Dems or whatever, then that's what we should do.
    https://amp.theguardian.com/politics...mpression=true

    How hard can it be to set up a tactical voting guide? You pick the highest placed 2nd ref/remain party from the last election and that’s who you recommend. The only way to get this wrong is if you have other motives.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diclonius View Post
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    If Farage and Johnson make a pact then we're ****ed.
    Maybe not. Farage is toxic with more centrist voters. Might help the Lib Dem’s v Tories in their marginals.


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    Vote Conservative, get Trump.


    Add “#NotForSale” to that... early days, yet. Tho: https://t.co/uahDc9eTn3
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Vote Conservative, get Trump.


    Add “#NotForSale” to that... early days, yet. Tho: https://t.co/uahDc9eTn3
    A campaign based on the Tories trading off the nhs to get a trade deal with Trump could be very effective.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    A campaign based on the Tories trading off the nhs to get a trade deal with Trump could be very effective.


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    It's a very simple and effective message.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://amp.theguardian.com/politics...mpression=true

    How hard can it be to set up a tactical voting guide? You pick the highest placed 2nd ref/remain party from the last election and that’s who you recommend. The only way to get this wrong is if you have other motives.


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    They have used a huge sample size poll (46000 I think) to try and estimate the current position at constituency level. This sort of approach did work well in predicting the 2017 election but it's complicated and people don't necessarily believe that the results are possible when big swings have been happening. For instance, most people were v sceptical about the polling that predicted the SNP 2015 surge before the actual results came in.

    What you suggest would be much simpler and probably more effective.
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    Farage due to speak in a few mins so we'll find out what he's planning ...
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