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    I've just received a quote for 2 x dental implants totalling over £6k. Seems a bit excessive to me so I'm considering heading to Spain, Turkey etc. where costs seem significantly cheaper. Just wondering if anyone on here has done this already and could maybe offer some advice and/or a recommendation for somewhere specific?

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    Quote Originally Posted by H18BYM View Post
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    I've just received a quote for 2 x dental implants totalling over £6k. Seems a bit excessive to me so I'm considering heading to Spain, Turkey etc. where costs seem significantly cheaper. Just wondering if anyone on here has done this already and could maybe offer some advice and/or a recommendation for somewhere specific?

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    Been looking into this myself as I have two teeth missing which are noticeable. I currently wear a bridge type thing. I brought my own "cement" from Amazon and when it gets loose I refix it. Annoying but better than dentures which I can't eat with.
    I am considering going to Prague where they have good prices plus it is a place I want to visit due to my interest in history. I agree 6K sounds excessive, I would shop around. I got stung for a £200 x-ray in London and with hindsight realise my dentist at the time was probably getting a kickback for the referral. I am now cautious and will be doing due diligence for any future decisions.

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    My partner is from Poland and she's always telling me to go over there for any dental treatment, apparently the price and standard of quality are much better than here.

    I'm getting the final part of a bridge done this afternoon for a 1 tooth gap that's only just noticeable (number 4) it's costing me £200 through the NHS, I've never had anything like this done before, but during the first part of the bridge being prepared for he's cut through the tooth next to the gap which has basically ****** it, it's got extreme sensitivity now, he put a dressing on it until part 2 but even with the dressing it was way too sensitive, I've ended up taking the dressing off my tooth which has furthermore increased sensitivity but put a stop to the random nerve pain.

    I hate the dentist, should have listened to my mother when I was a kid...

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    I've got a denture plate for me two front teef. I can't remember exactly how I lost them!

    It's a right pest having to take it out to eat, especially in restaurants. Sleight of hand has to be employed.

    I've been quoted four thousand for implants and it is a dilemma. Not sure about heading across Europe for it though.

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    How many visits are required in the whole process? I only know one person who has implants and it cost him 5 grand for 2 and it took 3 months with several visits.

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    £2500 - £3000 per tooth is pretty much the going rate locally.

    It can be cheaper in places like London, where supply and demand drive prices down a bit. Prices will inevitably come down over the next few years. Big, fancy specialist practices tend to charge a bit more than local dentists, many of whom now do implants (or at least assist in the procedure) which brings costs down.

    I'd be very wary going overseas as there is a huge unknown about the standards in various different places. The main problem would be where to go if you had subsequent problems as most dentists won't touch patients who come back from overseas with questionable dental work or complications. At least the inflated local prices give you a door to bang down when you've got problems and someone who is accountable for their actions. Having said that, standards are outstanding in some places. Hungary is a good place to go - there are lots of German and Austrian trained clinicians there who work to a very high standard but at a reasonable price.

    The good thing about implants is their success rate - they are good. Bridges, dentures, gaps all come with problems. Folk who have implants are generally very satisfied with them, even though they are expensive. The stakes are high though, the big price brings big expectations so when people are dissatisfied they tend to be very dissatisfied.

    You also don't want to treat the problem area in isolation but get a proper indication of the general health of the mouth and the prognosis of other teeth. Shelling out a significant sum of money only to lose other teeth fairly soon and find out that another big bill could potentially have been avoided (or rather reduced) by spotting other problems in advance is definitely something to avoid. Consumerism along the lines of "how much is an implant?" can be dangerous, the question should really be "how much for a healthy mouth that allows me to chew what I want with everything fixed in place that looks good enough for my needs?" is possibly a better way to view the process.

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    £2500 - £3000 per tooth is pretty much the going rate locally.

    It can be cheaper in places like London, where supply and demand drive prices down a bit. Prices will inevitably come down over the next few years. Big, fancy specialist practices tend to charge a bit more than local dentists, many of whom now do implants (or at least assist in the procedure) which brings costs down.

    I'd be very wary going overseas as there is a huge unknown about the standards in various different places. The main problem would be where to go if you had subsequent problems as most dentists won't touch patients who come back from overseas with questionable dental work or complications. At least the inflated local prices give you a door to bang down when you've got problems and someone who is accountable for their actions. Having said that, standards are outstanding in some places. Hungary is a good place to go - there are lots of German and Austrian trained clinicians there who work to a very high standard but at a reasonable price.

    The good thing about implants is their success rate - they are good. Bridges, dentures, gaps all come with problems. Folk who have implants are generally very satisfied with them, even though they are expensive. The stakes are high though, the big price brings big expectations so when people are dissatisfied they tend to be very dissatisfied.

    You also don't want to treat the problem area in isolation but get a proper indication of the general health of the mouth and the prognosis of other teeth. Shelling out a significant sum of money only to lose other teeth fairly soon and find out that another big bill could potentially have been avoided (or rather reduced) by spotting other problems in advance is definitely something to avoid. Consumerism along the lines of "how much is an implant?" can be dangerous, the question should really be "how much for a healthy mouth that allows me to chew what I want with everything fixed in place that looks good enough for my needs?" is possibly a better way to view the process.
    Re the costs, I had to get an emergency extraction a month or so ago and was talking to the dentist about implants, just out of curiosity. She said that everyone in the profession thought the cost of implants would fall over time but it hadn’t. In her opinion it was because the quality of dental workmanship in putting implants in had improved. So demand was there, supply had increased which should have lowered costs, but quality had gone up meaning prices stayed the same. Plus it is a bit of a restricted market in the U.K. so unless you go abroad, you can understand why there may be tacit agreement in the dental profession not to kill the golden goose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    Re the costs, I had to get an emergency extraction a month or so ago and was talking to the dentist about implants, just out of curiosity. She said that everyone in the profession thought the cost of implants would fall over time but it hadn’t. In her opinion it was because the quality of dental workmanship in putting implants in had improved. So demand was there, supply had increased which should have lowered costs, but quality had gone up meaning prices stayed the same. Plus it is a bit of a restricted market in the U.K. so unless you go abroad, you can understand why there may be tacit agreement in the dental profession not to kill the golden goose.
    I'd have expected prices to drop by now, that's for sure, but if they haven't then I don't think it will be because of any tacit agreement within the dental profession. The dental profession is appalling at standing together (in the UK anyway - elsewhere, such as the USA, dentists are actually very good at collaborating to see off competition etc) and is full of people who will happily undercut each other at every opportunity, and dentistry is certainly full of "disruptive characters".

    I can't really figure out why the prices have stayed so high, other than to suggest that demand isn't really all that high. Implants are still expensive (depending on your point of view) and relative to other places Scots aren't all that keen on spending large sums of money on dentistry. I know of a few non-Scots who have considered Scotland to be an untapped market for "big ticket dentistry popular elsewhere" come North with their businesses and bomb quite badly. I suppose dentists can maintain a sense of "exclusivity" when it comes to dental implants, instead of them dropping in price to a level where they become a fairly everyday and popular procedure.

    Interestingly enough, I am sitting at Bristol airport right now and decided to google "Bristol dental implants" to see what it was like here, and this was the first result to come up.

    https://www.dentale.co.uk/dental-imp...hoC0UgQAvD_BwE
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    I had 4 implants at a cost of 12k fifteen years ago. Prices are relatively cheaper taking into account inflation. Half a dozen or so visits. They’re still going strong.

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    I lost my 2 front gnashers playing rugby years ago and around my mid 30's I got them bridged, around 3 years ago the tooth that was used to bridge them broke and now I have a plate again. I use Fixodent to give them extra security when eating and I'm nos used to them again, would love to get the screw in ones but they do cost a few quid.

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    I sent to Kreativ Dental Clínic in Budapest to have 2 implanta and some other work. They basically paid for the expenses of the consultation visit( flight up to £150 and hotel and transfer). The dentist I saw trained in Austria and was also a maxillofacial surgeon with 20 years of experience and he spends all his time doing implants and cosmetic work. The whole process was very efficient. The treatment options were outlined and printed out in English and costs were made explicitly clear.
    I decided to return home to get quotes here and they were 2 and a half times as much. I had 2 visits to Budapest 4 months apart to let the implants settle. The clinic only paid taxi transfers on these visits and I paid flight and accommodation.
    The only negative was it feels a little impersonal at times. They process a huge number of people. All went very smoothly and I made a holiday of it each time. My dentist here was impressed by the quality of the work and state of the art materials used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosano View Post
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    I sent to Kreativ Dental Clínic in Budapest to have 2 implanta and some other work. They basically paid for the expenses of the consultation visit( flight up to £150 and hotel and transfer). The dentist I saw trained in Austria and was also a maxillofacial surgeon with 20 years of experience and he spends all his time doing implants and cosmetic work. The whole process was very efficient. The treatment options were outlined and printed out in English and costs were made explicitly clear.
    I decided to return home to get quotes here and they were 2 and a half times as much. I had 2 visits to Budapest 4 months apart to let the implants settle. The clinic only paid taxi transfers on these visits and I paid flight and accommodation.
    The only negative was it feels a little impersonal at times. They process a huge number of people. All went very smoothly and I made a holiday of it each time. My dentist here was impressed by the quality of the work and state of the art materials used.
    Thanks for the info, all sounds fairly safe and fair. London is very expensive even living quite close to it I would rather make a holiday out of the whole experience. Budapest is also a place I would like to visit

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosano View Post
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    I sent to Kreativ Dental Clínic in Budapest to have 2 implanta and some other work. They basically paid for the expenses of the consultation visit( flight up to £150 and hotel and transfer). The dentist I saw trained in Austria and was also a maxillofacial surgeon with 20 years of experience and he spends all his time doing implants and cosmetic work. The whole process was very efficient. The treatment options were outlined and printed out in English and costs were made explicitly clear.
    I decided to return home to get quotes here and they were 2 and a half times as much. I had 2 visits to Budapest 4 months apart to let the implants settle. The clinic only paid taxi transfers on these visits and I paid flight and accommodation.
    The only negative was it feels a little impersonal at times. They process a huge number of people. All went very smoothly and I made a holiday of it each time. My dentist here was impressed by the quality of the work and state of the art materials used.
    So!

    As a ballpark figure what are we talking about for an implant or two?


    I'm 62 and am about to lose 2 teeth. Given I got a shilling the last time I lost a tooth I'm not really looking forward to it although they're not show teeth :-(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    So!

    As a ballpark figure what are we talking about for an implant or two?


    I'm 62 and am about to lose 2 teeth. Given I got a shilling the last time I lost a tooth I'm not really looking forward to it although they're not show teeth :-(
    Check the Kreativ Dental website. All the info and more is right there.

    https://kreativdentalclinic.co.uk/
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlex View Post
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    Check the Kreativ Dental website. All the info and more is right there.

    https://kreativdentalclinic.co.uk/
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    This thread is rather timely. I was about to get some treatment done again on the implant front. I am now booked to go to kreativ in Budapest in a few weeks. I’ll let you all know how it goes. 👍

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    Two implants with bridge (4 front teeth) £7,000 a couple of years ago - Rose Street Edinburgh.

    Money well spent.


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    I’m heading for a similar situation shortly.

    About to get a 2nd attempt root canal which is 50/50 success rate if not it’s coming out. I’m 47 losing my first adult tooth will feel a blow.

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    Had six implants done at New Kirkgate Dental Care ten grand.

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    My partner is from Poland and she's always telling me to go over there for any dental treatment, apparently the price and standard of quality are much better than here.

    I'm getting the final part of a bridge done this afternoon for a 1 tooth gap that's only just noticeable (number 4) it's costing me £200 through the NHS, I've never had anything like this done before, but during the first part of the bridge being prepared for he's cut through the tooth next to the gap which has basically ****** it, it's got extreme sensitivity now, he put a dressing on it until part 2 but even with the dressing it was way too sensitive, I've ended up taking the dressing off my tooth which has furthermore increased sensitivity but put a stop to the random nerve pain.

    I hate the dentist, should have listened to my mother when I was a kid...
    I was in Krakow a few years ago and couldn’t believe the number of dental facilities everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlex View Post
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    This thread is rather timely. I was about to get some treatment done again on the implant front. I am now booked to go to kreativ in Budapest in a few weeks. I’ll let you all know how it goes. 👍
    Most people stay in the hotel Arena that is linked to the clinic. It is in the suburbs about 20-30 minutes away on the metro and in a pretty soulless uninspiring area. I arranged my own accommodation right in the centre where there was much more to do and they reimbursed me to the cost of the Arena's rates. The Arena is expensive and not very good for food and drink. I got the metro out each morning

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosano View Post
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    Most people stay in the hotel Arena that is linked to the clinic. It is in the suburbs about 20-30 minutes away on the metro and in a pretty soulless uninspiring area. I arranged my own accommodation right in the centre where there was much more to do and they reimbursed me to the cost of the Arena's rates. The Arena is expensive and not very good for food and drink. I got the metro out each morning
    Might the look into that G. Cheers.

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    Been looking into this myself as I have two teeth missing which are noticeable. I currently wear a bridge type thing. I brought my own "cement" from Amazon and when it gets loose I refix it. Annoying but better than dentures which I can't eat with.
    I am considering going to Prague where they have good prices plus it is a place I want to visit due to my interest in history. I agree 6K sounds excessive, I would shop around. I got stung for a £200 x-ray in London and with hindsight realise my dentist at the time was probably getting a kickback for the referral. I am now cautious and will be doing due diligence for any future decisions.


    i done quite a bit of research approx 3 years ago and was quite happily set for going to Prague, pretty good reviews, when i mentioned the idea to my own dentist he said he had a few patients that had been to Prague for implants, and were very satisfied with the work done, then he came up with a great idea...referring me instead to the Edinburgh Dental Institute at Lauriston Place(was there today again coincidently) instead of a prague trip which iirc would have cost approx 2k+, i ended up getting a couple of implants courtesy of the NHS and sterling work done by edin uni grads(whatever they are) i think there's different materials used in implants, make sure they are Titanium :) pricey but well worth it



    list for prague clinics
    https://www.whatclinic.com/dentists/...rague/implants


    there's also a clinic through in Glasgow that was quite reasonable but can't remember the name sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosano View Post
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    I sent to Kreativ Dental Clínic in Budapest to have 2 implanta and some other work. They basically paid for the expenses of the consultation visit( flight up to £150 and hotel and transfer). The dentist I saw trained in Austria and was also a maxillofacial surgeon with 20 years of experience and he spends all his time doing implants and cosmetic work. The whole process was very efficient. The treatment options were outlined and printed out in English and costs were made explicitly clear.
    I decided to return home to get quotes here and they were 2 and a half times as much. I had 2 visits to Budapest 4 months apart to let the implants settle. The clinic only paid taxi transfers on these visits and I paid flight and accommodation.
    The only negative was it feels a little impersonal at times. They process a huge number of people. All went very smoothly and I made a holiday of it each time. My dentist here was impressed by the quality of the work and state of the art materials used.
    Thanks for this - I've just booked with them to go and get 2 implants in March. £1600 plus travel/hotel versus £6300 here. Can you recommend where/what district to stay in? I'm there for 4 full days so want to be in an area with things to do and see. Thanks

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    Ive just had a quote for 12k from Edinburgh Dental in Rose st.
    2 implants , 2 implant crowns, 4 x white filling replacements , 1 veneer replacement , gum deep cleaning and some adjustments to my bite.

    Was going to go ahead with it but ended up just getting the deep gum clean which was £550 per visit x 2 visits plus 3 x consultations at £250 each.

    Might look into go8ng abroad after ive paid the gum cleaning off.
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    i done quite a bit of research approx 3 years ago and was quite happily set for going to Prague, pretty good reviews, when i mentioned the idea to my own dentist he said he had a few patients that had been to Prague for implants, and were very satisfied with the work done, then he came up with a great idea...referring me instead to the Edinburgh Dental Institute at Lauriston Place(was there today again coincidently) instead of a prague trip which iirc would have cost approx 2k+, i ended up getting a couple of implants courtesy of the NHS and sterling work done by edin uni grads(whatever they are) i think there's different materials used in implants, make sure they are Titanium :) pricey but well worth it



    list for prague clinics
    https://www.whatclinic.com/dentists/...rague/implants


    there's also a clinic through in Glasgow that was quite reasonable but can't remember the name sorry
    I didn't think implants were available on the NHS unless it's a medical necessity. Maybe it was in your case.

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    Thanks for this - I've just booked with them to go and get 2 implants in March. £1600 plus travel/hotel versus £6300 here. Can you recommend where/what district to stay in? I'm there for 4 full days so want to be in an area with things to do and see. Thanks
    Hi,

    I stayed near the Central Market Hall in Central Pest and that was ideal for bars, restaurants, shops and sightseeing. I would say anywhere in the area known as Central Pest would be ideal. Probably best to be fairly close to a metro stop. If you stay in the centre then you have 2 options to get to the clinic(they actually have 2 sites near each other). You can get the metro to the partner hotel, the Arena(at Ferenc Puskas stadium) and take the regular shuttle mini bus(you let the clinic know the day before when you need picked up) or take the number 2 metro to Ors vezer ter stop and walk about a mile. That is what I did. You can buy a 3 or 7 day pass for all public transport(about £11 and £14 respectively), great for getting around the sites too.

    Yes, it is a real bargain compared to the UK.

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    Just back from praque 10 porcelain veneers 1 porcelain crown and root canal treatment 4200 pounds....was waited 13000 grand here .
    All done and completed over 2 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleeping giant View Post
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    Ive just had a quote for 12k from Edinburgh Dental in Rose st.
    2 implants , 2 implant crowns, 4 x white filling replacements , 1 veneer replacement , gum deep cleaning and some adjustments to my bite.

    Was going to go ahead with it but ended up just getting the deep gum clean which was £550 per visit x 2 visits plus 3 x consultations at £250 each.

    Might look into go8ng abroad after ive paid the gum cleaning off.
    Wow!!
    That’s a pretty hefty bill for a gum clean plus consultations. Assume that’s going private?

    By my own admission, I’m lazy when it come to teeth and gum hygiene. I’ve not been to my dentist for about 4 years but had terrible toothache last month. Got an appointment day after I phoned. Offending wisdom tooth removed without question and a couple of x-rays of my mouth taken. Cost - presumably NHS rates - £20.

    Just had 1st follow up appointment today and bottom teeth/gums cleaned and cleared of calculus build up. Second appointment next month to get similar treatment for top row. Cost - £30 in total.

    In terms of time and cost, it’s a no brainier to me. And I certainly can’t complain about the quality of the work done. Bonus was I was also given a prescription (free of course) for a specialist mouthwash that costs £5 or £6 over the counter.

    All in all - a result I’d say.

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    Hi,

    I stayed near the Central Market Hall in Central Pest and that was ideal for bars, restaurants, shops and sightseeing. I would say anywhere in the area known as Central Pest would be ideal. Probably best to be fairly close to a metro stop. If you stay in the centre then you have 2 options to get to the clinic(they actually have 2 sites near each other). You can get the metro to the partner hotel, the Arena(at Ferenc Puskas stadium) and take the regular shuttle mini bus(you let the clinic know the day before when you need picked up) or take the number 2 metro to Ors vezer ter stop and walk about a mile. That is what I did. You can buy a 3 or 7 day pass for all public transport(about £11 and £14 respectively), great for getting around the sites too.

    Yes, it is a real bargain compared to the UK.
    It certainly is. What happens if there's a problem connected to the dental work? Do you have to go back to Hungary or are NHS dentists here happy to help?

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