Thoughts on Jo Swinson?

[marinello59]

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Just because they won't support Corbyn, doesn't necessarily mean they'll back Boris either. The Lib Dems know they could be the key difference. Which is why they keep making up one pathetic excuse after another not to back a Labour Government.

It's incredible how there are still people who can't see them for what they blatantly are.

You think the Tory rebels could stomach Corbyn as even a stop gap PM?

[Ozyhibby]

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Just because they won't support Corbyn, doesn't necessarily mean they'll back Boris either. The Lib Dems know they could be the key difference. Which is why they keep making up one pathetic excuse after another not to back a Labour Government.

It's incredible how there are still people who can't see them for what they blatantly are.

It’s not a pathetic excuse, it’s smart politics. In the areas where the Lib Dem’s have a chance of beating the Tories, Jeremy Corbyn is seen as the great Satan. If she aligns with Corbyn now they have no chance of taking those seats.



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[Smartie]

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Just because they won't support Corbyn, doesn't necessarily mean they'll back Boris either. The Lib Dems know they could be the key difference. Which is why they keep making up one pathetic excuse after another not to back a Labour Government.

It's incredible how there are still people who can't see them for what they blatantly are.

They're centrists. That's what they are. They won't be fans of the far left so they won't be into Jeremy Corbyn or his cronies. Equally, they won't be very much into Boris or his buddies on the further right end of the spectrum.

Just because you might have a more left-leaning tendency doesn't mean that everyone to the right of you are in cahoots with each other.

The LibDems have as much to gain from moderate Labour voters disillusioned from their party's lurch to the left as they do picking up moderate Tories, and cosying up to Boris, Rees-Mogg and Cummings will alienate a part of the electorate they stand to potentially gain huge support from.

Their reasons not to back a Labour government are not pathetic excuses. In a changing political landscape they'd be daft to chain themselves to a party who have a recent track record of infighting, unpopularity and dithering.

[Fife-Hibee]

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You think the Tory rebels could stomach Corbyn as even a stop gap PM?

It doesn't make any difference if they can't stomach Boris Johnson either. They'll just void their votes.

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It’s not a pathetic excuse, it’s smart politics. In the areas where the Lib Dem’s have a chance of beating the Tories, Jeremy Corbyn is seen as the great Satan. If she aligns with Corbyn now they have no chance of taking those seats.

The tories are going to gain more seats than they lose. Watch them do a deal with the brexit party and the vast majority of brexiteers will unite behind them. Meanwhile, the Lib Dems will split remainers right down the middle. It'll be a cakewalk for the conservatives and their hard brexit agenda.

You're right though. It's certainly smart, the way they've conned so many people.

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They're centrists. That's what they are. They won't be fans of the far left so they won't be into Jeremy Corbyn or his cronies. Equally, they won't be very much into Boris or his buddies on the further right end of the spectrum.

Just because you might have a more left-leaning tendency doesn't mean that everyone to the right of you are in cahoots with each other.

The LibDems have as much to gain from moderate Labour voters disillusioned from their party's lurch to the left as they do picking up moderate Tories, and cosying up to Boris, Rees-Mogg and Cummings will alienate a part of the electorate they stand to potentially gain huge support from.

Their reasons not to back a Labour government are not pathetic excuses. In a changing political landscape they'd be daft to chain themselves to a party who have a recent track record of infighting, unpopularity and dithering.

There is no such thing as "centrist". It's a modern political trope that all large parties claim to be. The "centre ground" is exactly where you place it.

[Hibbyradge]

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They're centrists. That's what they are. They won't be fans of the far left so they won't be into Jeremy Corbyn or his cronies. Equally, they won't be very much into Boris or his buddies on the further right end of the spectrum.

Just because you might have a more left-leaning tendency doesn't mean that everyone to the right of you are in cahoots with each other.

The LibDems have as much to gain from moderate Labour voters disillusioned from their party's lurch to the left as they do picking up moderate Tories, and cosying up to Boris, Rees-Mogg and Cummings will alienate a part of the electorate they stand to potentially gain huge support from.

Their reasons not to back a Labour government are not pathetic excuses. In a changing political landscape they'd be daft to chain themselves to a party who have a recent track record of infighting, unpopularity and dithering.

The Tories and the DUP will not back Corbyn as interim PM. That's an undeniable fact, so if the opposition want to use a vote of confidence successfully, they have to agree an acceptable candidate.

The Liberals could back him to the hilt, but it wouldn't do any good, because he wouldn't be appointed by Parliament. If that happens, we get the general election that Boris Johnson wants.

If a less divisive candidate was agreed, we could see the Government resign and a new, non-Tory government take its place until no-deal is guaranteed, and hopefully a second referendum scheduled.

It's not difficult to understand. Ironically, the last time there was a successful VONC, it was in 1979 when the SNP helped pave the way for over a decade of Margaret Thatcher.

[Fife-Hibee]

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It's not difficult to understand. Ironically, the last time there was a successful VONC, it was in 1979 when the SNP helped pave the way for over a decade of Margaret Thatcher.

Ah, that old chestnut again, which has already been covered a thousand times on here. Labour had the chance to remain in government and turned the offer down. Next.

[Moulin Yarns]

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The Tories and the DUP will not back Corbyn as interim PM. That's an undeniable fact, so if the opposition want to use a vote of confidence successfully, they have to agree an acceptable candidate.

The Liberals could back him to the hilt, but it wouldn't do any good, because he wouldn't be appointed by Parliament. If that happens, we get the general election that Boris Johnson wants.

If a less divisive candidate was agreed, we could see the Government resign and a new, non-Tory government take its place until no-deal is guaranteed, and hopefully a second referendum scheduled.

It's not difficult to understand. Ironically, the last time there was a successful VONC, it was in 1979 when the SNP helped pave the way for over a decade of Margaret Thatcher.

and sufferd for their sins

The Scottish National Party also suffered in the 1979 general election, with its group reduced from 11 members to just two.The incoming Conservative government repealed the Scotland Act and devolution was not enacted until the 1997 referendum.

[Hibbyradge]

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and sufferd for their sins

Indeed. It seems highly unlikely that something like that could happen again, but it's not outwith the realms of possiblity.

The SNP are playing their own political games, just like the Liberals. Understandably so.

Sturgeon went on record last week as saying that she wouldn't support a coalition with Labour unless a second referendum was guaranteed. "Don't even pick the phone up".

If, after the next GE, no party has won an overall majority, but Labour refuses to guarantee Indy2, would the SNP allow the Tories to govern?

If so, how would that sit with the Scottish electorate. Scottish Labour would love that to happen.

It's a daft hypothesis which isn't really worth considering, isn't it. Isn't it?

[Frankhfc]

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Funny. She's my MP also and just like Hamilton, she's never anywhere to be seen.

As for Jo Swinson. Her and her party are proving once again that they're fully on board with the tory NHS privitization agenda with the US. Which is directly linked to Brexit.

Strange comment.

What do you mean by it? Missing when/where?

I've always found her welcoming and very willing to help her constituents.

[Fife-Hibee]

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Strange comment.

What do you mean by it? Missing when/where?

I've always found her welcoming and very willing to help her constituents.

She's never in her office. I've lived here for the best part of 5 years and the only 1 time ive seen her is at a polling station.

[Frankhfc]

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She's never in her office. I've lived here for the best part of 5 years and the only 1 time ive seen her is at a polling station.

I've met her several times in her constituency office. She was great with me and helped me considerably with the matters I presented to her. I know of other constituents who have found her and her office team very willing to aid them with their issues.

Sounds as if you're letting you're partisan glasses view the current Lib Dem M.P incumbent.

[Fife-Hibee]

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I've met her several times in her constituency office. She was great with me and helped me considerably with the matters I presented to her. I know of other constituents who have found her and her office team very willing to aid them with their issues.

Sounds as if you're letting you're partisan glasses view the current Lib Dem M.P incumbent.

I tell you what. I'll pay a wee visit to her office tomorrow to see if she's there. I'll even take a picture of the empty office while i'm there.

[Frankhfc]

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I tell you what. I'll pay a wee visit to her office tomorrow to see if she's there. I'll even take a picture of the empty office while i'm there.

If you're not willing to either listen to or take on board a fellow hi bees actual experiences and their opinion then I'm not interested in yours either. Do as you wish and take as many photos as you want and I'll continue to base my opinion on my actual dealings with her and her office which was excellent as she helped solve my issues.

[Fife-Hibee]

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If you're not willing to either listen to or take on board a fellow hi bees actual experiences and their opinion then I'm not interested in yours either. Do as you wish and take as many photos as you want and I'll continue to base my opinion on my actual dealings with her and her office which was excellent as she helped solve my issues.

I don't know if you even live in this constituency, have ever met Jardine or been to a Hibs game in your life. You're another faceless stranger to me on here. So forgive me if i'm somewhat hesitant to take your comments as gospel.

[Frankhfc]

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I don't know if you even live in this constituency, have ever met Jardine or been to a Hibs game in your life. You're another faceless stranger to me on here. So forgive me if i'm somewhat hesitant to take your comments as gospel.

I'm surprised the admins allow you to post on here with these type comments.

[Moulin Yarns]

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I don't know if you even live in this constituency, have ever met Jardine or been to a Hibs game in your life. You're another faceless stranger to me on here. So forgive me if i'm somewhat hesitant to take your comments as gospel.

With very few exceptions, most on here will not have met many other posters but the whole point of the forums is debate. How are we to know that you even know where the constituency office is and when it is open? Or even that you actually intend going tomorrow?

[Moulin Yarns]

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I tell you what. I'll pay a wee visit to her office tomorrow to see if she's there. I'll even take a picture of the empty office while i'm there.

How did you get on with this yesterday?

[Mon Dieu4]

I came home to a Lib Dem flyer, announced that Swinson is the next UK Prime Minister, wonder if you can do them for false advertising

[Moulin Yarns]

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I came home to a Lib Dem flyer, announced that Swinson is the next UK Prime Minister, wonder if you can do them for false advertising

Any chance of an image?

[Mon Dieu4]

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Any chance of an image?

Here you go, can't be arsed working out how to turn it round

[CloudSquall]

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Some clips of Andrew Neil interviewing Jo Swinson who had some difficulty in explaining why they can have talks with Plaid Cymru on election strategies but not SNP.

[The Harp Awakes]

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https://mobile.twitter.com/ArthurStr...59312522465281

Some clips of Andrew Neil interviewing Jo Swinson who had some difficulty in explaining why they can have talks with Plaid Cymru on election strategies but not SNP.

She looks very uncomfortable there. Comes across as being disingenuous.

I think the Lib Dems will do ok in the GE, particularly in England but nowt to do with Swinson and all to do with Brexit. Don't rate her.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-pol...ection-fantasy

[Fife-Hibee]

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She looks very uncomfortable there. Comes across as being disingenuous.

I think the Lib Dems will do ok in the GE, particularly in England but nowt to do with Swinson and all to do with Brexit. Don't rate her.

She always looks uncomfortable when pressed. Much like Ruth Davidson did. I just don't understand the fawning over people like her and Davidson. They're utterly horrific politicians.

[Smartie]

You'd think she'd work harder on getting solid answers with confident delivery to these questions as she must know she's going to be asked them and her stuttering doesn't look good.

Is it beyond the wit of the LibDem spin doctors to come up with an answer as to why she'd deal with the Welsh nationalists but not the Scottish ones?

I'm surprised she gets herself in such a fiddle over being in the position of supporting the UK being in the European Union and Scotland remaining within the UK. It's not that unreasonable a position, many people will agree with her and have an interest in voting for her but she is utterly unconvincing. I'm sure I could cobble together an excuse for wanting one referendum repeated but not the other, practice it a bit and deliver it with a bit of conviction when pressed, even if I didn't believe it.

I must be a more skilled liar than I thought.

[Fife-Hibee]

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You'd think she'd work harder on getting solid answers with confident delivery to these questions as she must know she's going to be asked them and her stuttering doesn't look good.

Is it beyond the wit of the LibDem spin doctors to come up with an answer as to why she'd deal with the Welsh nationalists but not the Scottish ones?

I'm surprised she gets herself in such a fiddle over being in the position of supporting the UK being in the European Union and Scotland remaining within the UK. It's not that unreasonable a position, many people will agree with her and have an interest in voting for her but she is utterly unconvincing. I'm sure I could cobble together an excuse for wanting one referendum repeated but not the other, practice it a bit and deliver it with a bit of conviction when pressed.

Stuttering is a symptom of saying things that you're not really thinking. That's why she stutters. She doesn't believe most of the guff that comes out of her own mouth. She's a tory without the ability to tell a convincing lie.

[Mibbes Aye]

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She always looks uncomfortable when pressed. Much like Ruth Davidson did. I just don't understand the fawning over people like her and Davidson. They're utterly horrific politicians.

It is not just me who says it. Do you ever feel uncomfortable about the fact that you consistently target women? What is wrong with you?

[SHODAN]

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Here you go, can't be arsed working out how to turn it round

Haha they're doing the Davidson thing where they don't mention the party

[Colr]

Interesting that she is excluded from the TV election debate. I suppose after Clegg made Cameron and Brown look like a pair of stuffed shirts they don’t want a repeat but having these two old farts debate will be like a rerun of Baddiel and Newman

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEQcsuXnnnc

[CloudSquall]

Swinson gets called out on Lib Dems dodgy bar charts

https://twitter.com/michaeljswalker/...69677050200064