Brexit - What Now.

***cabbageandribs1875*** · 17-10-2019 05:10 PM

oh oh

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**heretoday** · 17-10-2019 05:16 PM

God I hope this deal goes through. I think I've aged 10 years in the last three.

**mjhibby** · 17-10-2019 05:16 PM

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Can see the following happening then:

1. Boris deal voted down
2. Extension requested and granted.
3. Vote of no confidence / election called.
4. Labour lose, Boris wins majority after campaign focuses on the 'victory of getting a deal against the odds and remain parliament voting it down'

At least then Labour may see sense and empty Corbyn, but only after Boris is put into power for 5 more years to deliver a hard Tory Brexit.

Agree all bar Johnson getting a majority. John Eustace did s good piece on the fact that brexit didn't affect the 2017 election as much as first thought and half the voters are now classed as swing voters. Impossible to predict the election and how folk will vote tactically. Plus of course the effect the brexit party will have. I still think we're heading for another hung parliament.

***danhibees1875*** · 17-10-2019 05:33 PM

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God I hope this deal goes through. I think I've aged 10 years in the last three.

We've lost a decade debating referendums. Get a deal sorted with a confirmation referendum thrown in, and if we're really daft enough to vote for it again then let's just see how it plays out.

**~~Cataplana~~** · 17-10-2019 05:35 PM

Just when you think youve seen Boris complete act, he pulls a trick you've never seen before.

That press conference with Junker is an utter piss take.

***Moulin Yarns*** · 17-10-2019 06:20 PM

SNP amendment

Confirmed:

- declines to approve the withdrawal agreement and future

- calls for the Prime Minister to secure an extension until at least 31 January 2020 for the purpose of holding an early general election before the end of the extension period.

***Northernhibee*** · 17-10-2019 06:21 PM

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God I hope this deal goes through. I think I've aged 10 years in the last three.

It’s almost as bad as a no deal.

I truly hope it leads to a second referendum where we can remain.

***Ozyhibby*** · 17-10-2019 06:23 PM

Going to be close on Saturday.

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***Callum_62*** · 17-10-2019 06:26 PM

How can anyone who voted against Mays deal vote for this deal?

***Ozyhibby*** · 17-10-2019 06:29 PM

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How can anyone who voted against Mays deal vote for this deal?

The ERG have decide they don’t really care whether NI trade policy is dealt with by Dublin after all so long as they get their hard brexit.

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***Ozyhibby*** · 17-10-2019 06:40 PM

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***Moulin Yarns*** · 17-10-2019 06:43 PM

Theresa May right now is every woman who’s ever said an idea in a meeting & had everyone ignore her only for a man to say the same idea two minutes later & have everyone congratulate the **** out of him

**CloudSquall** · 17-10-2019 06:46 PM

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Who is the "rebel" Lib Dem voting for the deal?

***RyeSloan*** · 17-10-2019 06:49 PM

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Who is the "rebel" Lib Dem voting for the deal?

Jo Swinson of course

***Future17*** · 17-10-2019 06:51 PM

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Who is the "rebel" Lib Dem voting for the deal?

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Jo Swinson.

I've seen the future.

***Future17*** · 17-10-2019 06:52 PM

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Jo Swinson of course

I wasn't quick enough!

**CloudSquall** · 17-10-2019 06:54 PM

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Jo Swinson of course

I provided an open goal for that one

***Bostonhibby*** · 17-10-2019 06:55 PM

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Jo Swinson of course

She is/was a LD?

The LD's sent the populace a message when Clegg was seeking popularity and hell mend any Liberal that thinks Swinson isn't Boris's Ace in the hole.

Apologies for the poker analogy.

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***Moulin Yarns*** · 17-10-2019 07:25 PM

Senior Labour sources predicting fewer than ten Labour MPs will back Government on Saturday. Every vote could count....

***Moulin Yarns*** · 17-10-2019 07:26 PM

Govt preparing measures to support Labour MPs thinking of backing deal

Number of Lab MPs considering voting for it is higher than previous estimates

Including some new names in Leave seats who didn’t back May’s deal, didn’t sign pro-deal letter and aren’t replying to texts...

***Bostonhibby*** · 17-10-2019 07:41 PM

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Govt preparing measures to support Labour MPs thinking of backing deal

Number of Lab MPs considering voting for it is higher than previous estimates

Including some new names in Leave seats who didn’t back May’s deal, didn’t sign pro-deal letter and aren’t replying to texts...

A microcosm of Corbyn's "leadership" if and when it happens.

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**Pretty Boy** · 17-10-2019 07:53 PM

It will be interesting to see what happens to the DUPs vote in the next general election if the deal gets through. The UUP now accusing them of being misled, betrayal and putting NI on the 'window ledge of the union and on a path to a united Ireland'.

That's pretty forceful rhetoric and will appeal to a lot of the hardcore Unionist vote.

***Jack Hackett*** · 17-10-2019 07:56 PM

I am now extremely nervous

***Ozyhibby*** · 17-10-2019 08:04 PM

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It will be interesting to see what happens to the DUPs vote in the next general election if the deal gets through. The UUP now accusing them of being misled, betrayal and putting NI on the 'window ledge of the union and on a path to a united Ireland'.

That's pretty forceful rhetoric and will appeal to a lot of the hardcore Unionist vote.

As people realise that NI is now heading to closer alignment to Dublin, expect unionist fury to rise between now and Saturday. That may turn some Tories against the deal. And maybe Kate Hoey will switch back to being against as she is close to the DUP.

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***Callum_62*** · 17-10-2019 08:08 PM

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I am now extremely nervous

Believe in Britain!

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***Bostonhibby*** · 17-10-2019 08:14 PM

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It will be interesting to see what happens to the DUPs vote in the next general election if the deal gets through. The UUP now accusing them of being misled, betrayal and putting NI on the 'window ledge of the union and on a path to a united Ireland'.

That's pretty forceful rhetoric and will appeal to a lot of the hardcore Unionist vote.

Interesting times ahead, the no surrender brigade might have to reconcile themselves to the reality that an opportunistic short term leader of the Conservative and Unionist party pushed them a bit further towards the precipice for even shorter term gain.

The positive could be that if Boris gets away with it the hard core that's left in Norn Irn will be much noisier but ever less relevant.

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***Jack Hackett*** · 17-10-2019 08:32 PM

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Believe in Britain!

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Thank you... I feel much better now

***Callum_62*** · 17-10-2019 08:33 PM

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Thank you... I feel much better now

Don't we all Jack, don't we all

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***Jack Hackett*** · 17-10-2019 08:34 PM

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Don't we all Jack, don't we all

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No worries bud... well, maybe a few... actually, quite a lot

**CloudSquall** · 17-10-2019 08:40 PM

The absolute gall of this ****..

https://twitter.com/DavidMundellDCT/...35861801787392

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