Brexit - What Now.

[Fife-Hibee]

[lapsedhibee]

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I don't believe for a moment that there's anyone in government just now who would benefit from spreading lies to promote unrest between opposition parties at Westminster, so that's probably true.

[Colr]

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My favourite anti Labour/Corbyn amigos, Hibbyradge, Colr, Ozyhibs and UKYoungconservative on here went . Ballistic when folk in the Labour Party had the audacity to suggest that members should have right to reselect sitting MP's if they were duff. Punters increasingly do not have a job for life. Not a peep about the Father of the House Clarke with 50 years representing his Party nor Nicholas Soames with 19 more being deselected and kicked out arbitrarily has no comment. At least be consistent comrades

BIG G

I’m against Clark and Soames being deselected. Jess Phillips was good on this but I’m not a Tory so it’s up to them.

I’m not anti-Labour. I’m anti-populist left wing entryistas who are making Labour insufficiently representative and unelectable.

[Colr]

Vote of no confience.

Vote against election.

Boris holes below the waterline.

Propose a compromise candidate as temporary PM with just a straight majority.

Deal with Brexit.

Have an election.

[Peevemor]

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Even if there was the promise of an Indyref2 up for grabs, there's no way the SNP would do this - they know that they'd lose a huge number of supporters.

[JeMeSouviens]

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For context, Christine Jardine is first and foremost fanatically anti-Nat.

[Peevemor]

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[BroxburnHibee]

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Her source is that great bastion of truth Alistair Carmichael which tells you all you need to know.

[Hibrandenburg]

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oh fgs man

This one's not too bad either.

[G B Young]

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Even if there was the promise of an Indyref2 up for grabs, there's no way the SNP would do this - they know that they'd lose a huge number of supporters.

They wouldn't lose any supporters over this. The date of the election is in reality an irrelevance to the SNP as they'll all but clean up in Scotland no matter what. The Tories will lose seats due to the party's Brexit stance and the loss of Ruth Davidson as their Scottish figurehead, Labour will continue to fail to win seats due to Corbyn's unpopularity and the Lib Dems will maybe hold on to what they have. Leaves the way clear for an increase in SNP seats so as far as they're concerned, deal or no deal any day is good with them for an election.

[Peevemor]

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They wouldn't lose any supporters over this. The date of the election is in reality an irrelevance to the SNP as they'll all but clean up in Scotland no matter what. The Tories will lose seats due to the party's Brexit stance and the loss of Ruth Davidson as their Scottish figurehead, Labour will continue to fail to win seats due to Corbyn's unpopularity and the Lib Dems will maybe hold on to what they have. Leaves the way clear for an increase in SNP seats so as far as they're concerned, deal or no deal any day is good with them for an election.

Nonsense, if the direct result was a no-deal Brexit then their credibilty and support would plummet, even among their core support.

[SHODAN]

I'm genuinely concerned about the prospect of a no-deal Johnson majority government.

[G B Young]

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I’m against Clark and Soames being deselected. Jess Phillips was good on this but I’m not a Tory so it’s up to them.

I’m not anti-Labour. I’m anti-populist left wing entryistas who are making Labour insufficiently representative and unelectable.

Sums it up for me too. There's hypocrisy at play here too from Labour claiming to be outraged by the Tory sackings bearing in mind the number of MPs who have felt unable to serve in Corbyn's shadow cabinet coupled with the number who have left the party altogether citing bullying and anti-Semitism.

[G B Young]

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Nonsense, if the direct result was a no-deal Brexit then their credibilty and support would plummet, even among their core support.

Don't agree. If anything no deal will boost the SNP support.

[lapsedhibee]

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I'm genuinely concerned about the prospect of a no-deal Johnson majority government.

Even though the prorogation drastically reduces the scrutiny that Johnson will get in Parliament before an election, there'll still be plenty more opportunities for him to embarrass himself in front of the nation. The longer that Labour delays an election, the less likely that Johnson will sweep to victory. Everyone saw Tan Dhesi yesterday - that won't have influenced some of Johnson's base, but switherers and waverers will have taken note.

[lapsedhibee]

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Don't agree. If anything no deal will boost the SNP support.

It will, but not if they cause it.

[Peevemor]

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It will, but not if they cause it.

Exactly.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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It will, but not if they cause it.

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[Hibbyradge]

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My favourite anti Labour/Corbyn amigos, Hibbyradge, Colr, Ozyhibs and UKYoungconservative on here went . Ballistic when folk in the Labour Party had the audacity to suggest that members should have right to reselect sitting MP's if they were duff. Punters increasingly do not have a job for life. Not a peep about the Father of the House Clarke with 50 years representing his Party nor Nicholas Soames with 19 more being deselected and kicked out arbitrarily has no comment. At least be consistent comrades

BIG G

Stop slavering.

I couldn't give a flying fig about what the Tories do to each other, but it's touching that you care so much. Wasn't Ken Clarke a member of Thatcher's cabinet for her entire tenure? Remember her? Poll tax, miners, anti TU laws. You must have fond memories, right enough.

Momentum weren't planning on deselecting on the basis of ability. They were deselecting purely on the basis of politics and loyalty to them and Corbyn.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Don't agree. If anything no deal will boost the SNP support.

Not if the SNP played a complicit role in it happening.

[Hibbyradge]

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Don't agree. If anything no deal will boost the SNP support.

Not if they're seen to have helped it happen.

[Hibrandenburg]

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It will, but not if they cause it.

Beat me too it.

[Colr]

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Don't agree. If anything no deal will boost the SNP support.

Not if they facilitate it.

[RyeSloan]

I’ve been too busy to follow the nonsense recently too closely but I’m confused already this ‘no deal’ bill.

Is it not the case that if we have a GE and the Tories get a working majority then they could simply repeal this bill and then no deal is back on the table (albeit maybe after another deadline delay)?

If so then what is the point in Labour faffing about re wanting a GE or not?

Apologies of this is a dumb question as as I’ve said I’ve not had the time to follow the ins and outs!

[JeMeSouviens]

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Nonsense, if the direct result was a no-deal Brexit then their credibilty and support would plummet, even among their core support.

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It will, but not if they cause it.

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Not if the SNP played a complicit role in it happening.

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Not if they're seen to have helped it happen.

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Not if they facilitate it.

Can't argue with that level of agreement

Actually, I don't think I'd vote for them if they did that.

[JeMeSouviens]

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I’ve been too busy to follow the nonsense recently too closely but I’m confused already this ‘no deal’ bill.

Is it not the case that if we have a GE and the Tories get a working majority then they could simply repeal this bill and then no deal is back on the table (albeit maybe after another deadline delay)?

If so then what is the point in Labour faffing about re wanting a GE or not?

Apologies of this is a dumb question as as I’ve said I’ve not had the time to follow the ins and outs!

You're correct but there could easily be another hung parliament post-GE with Johnson clinging on for no deal.

And there's the tactical ploy of forcing Johnson to ask for an extension thereby failing in his own "do or die" pish, feeding Farage's betrayal narrative to split the Leave vote.

[JeMeSouviens]

Jo Johnson resigns (again ).

In recent weeks I’ve been torn between family loyalty and the national interest - it’s an unresolvable tension & time for others to take on my roles as MP & Minister.

[CloudSquall]

I wonder if Boris will do a deal with Farage when push comes to shove?

[lapsedhibee]

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Jo Johnson resigns (again ).

Beginning of the end for the rubber bath toy ****show?

[JeMeSouviens]

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Beginning of the end for the rubber bath toy ****show?

Nice gag from twitter - "he's resigned to spend less time with his family".