Embarrassing "support" today

[tonyrougier123]

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Who’s blaming the crowd (lol) ?

Just because a lot of Hibs ‘fans’ are hoping we fail doesn’t mean the terrible performances as their fault. Just making the point that some ‘supporters’ would rather hope things get worse than help make things better.

Seeing it on social media already - it’s one thing or the other ... people withdrawing their support till the manager is sacked. There’s always something keeping some Hibs fans from being Hibs fans (lol).

If you choose to pick out a few posts on twitter to generalise you feelings about the support,then thats poor judgement imo.

The same support that were integral to the club bouncing back from the dark days.special mention to the 1875boys by the way,who constantly kept the atmosphere positive while we rebuilt from poor management.

And look at how the club treat them now,stuck away in a corner.

A few questions need answering just now but the support have got behind the club in record numbers,and bought the merch.

You really need to look elsewhere for an excuse,as to why its at this point.

Its not exactly the best experience at easter road just now for many reasons,and not because we spending plenty on the team on the park,so the board can shed that old excuse!!

[Northernhibee]

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Our support is NOT impatient and toxic what a load of s h it e.

When you look look at what our support has endured over the years, yes we have had three cup wins in the last 40 years or so but we have been let down MANY times by the club we love.

All the fans want is some consistency is that too Much to ask? We were promised a high pressing team with fitness levels they have never known - where is it????

No, they just booed a sub when we were winning and have lost one game this season. Not impatient or toxic at all.

[Shrekko]

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If you choose to pick out a few posts on twitter to generalise you feelings about the support,then thats poor judgement imo.

The same support that were integral to the club bouncing back from the dark days.special mention to the 1875boys by the way,who constantly kept the atmosphere positive while we rebuilt from poor management.

And look at how the club treat them now,stuck away in a corner.

A few questions need answering just now but the support have got behind the club in record numbers,and bought the merch.

You really need to look elsewhere for an excuse,as to why its at this point.

Its not exactly the best experience at easter road just now for many reasons,and not because we spending plenty on the team on the park,so the board can shed that old excuse!!

It’s not generalising - I’ve said ‘some’. A lot of the fans were brilliant after we lost the first goal.

[flash]

I have to be honest. I thought the atmosphere was a bit flat but not particularly nasty or negative until he took Allan off. You could see after 15 minutes it wasn't working.
There should have been one change when he went off and that was Horgan for Mallan with Allan moving in one.
After he took Doidge off the ball just wasn't sticking up front and it was almost all St Johnstone.
I have been all for giving him time and I still would but he will struggle if he keeps managing like he did today.

[emerald green]

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There were loads round me today, and a few on here judging by the 'told you so' tone of their posts, who are getting satisfaction from 'being right all along'.

Are you seriously suggesting there were "loads" of Hibs supporters round you today hoping we would fail. i.e. lose the match? I doubt that's really the case.

There were plenty around me expressing their displeasure (including myself) about the garbage they were witnessing, but I would say few if any were hoping Hibs would lose. I, and the folk that sit around me, I feel safe to say that they all want Hibs to do well. Never to fail.

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Well that was Heckingbottom.

It’s chicken and egg... I think everyone realises that and that players need to be able to block it out. It’s still easier ... I’m guessing, to play better with a more supportive crowd.

We all want Hibs to do well aye?

No I follow them every week in the hope we are guff?

[hibeerealist]

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No, they just booed a sub when we were winning and have lost one game this season. Not impatient or toxic at all.

As Pretty Boy eloquently put it - the crowd were booing the decision to take off SA especially given he was being played out of position - they were NOT booing the subs coming on.

However, you twist it any way you want as there seems to be some agenda, maybe in support of Hecky’s comments, that labels the fans as poor (impatient and toxic).

Very poor from the fans that support that view in my opinion.

[madhatter]

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No, they just booed a sub when we were winning and have lost one game this season. Not impatient or toxic at all.

It’s the performances the fans are hating. We also got thumped by Rangers and needed extra time to beat Morton. Our midfield is shambolic and I don’t think our manager sees it. His excuse in his interview was anxiety from fans and a poor linesman. He looked a bit upset in his HibsTV interview but the worrying thing is he couldn’t answer the question what are you going to do to sort this for future. He responded with his normal fluff, no substance just like his team.

We’re patient but can someone tell me what direction our club are taking at the moment? Can someone tell me what style of football our manager is wanting to play? Last season was a poor season, let’s not forget as far as many fans are concerned we’ve had a poor season and have started this season poorly. Conceding 11 goals in 3 games is rotten.

I might be mental but I’d be a happier fan if we had lost today but had hit the bar 3 times, had 60% possession and 29 shots, had a recognisable playing style. We didn’t, St Johnstone played some football while we just aimlessly kicked the ball. Kamberi saved Hecky today from worse.

[hibsbollah]

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Are you seriously suggesting there were "loads" of Hibs supporters round you today hoping we would fail. i.e. lose the match? I doubt that's really the case.

There were plenty around me expressing their displeasure (including myself) about the garbage they were witnessing, but I would say few if any were hoping Hibs would lose. I, and the folk that sit around me, I feel safe to say that they all want Hibs to do well. Never to fail.

I suspect there's a few who have mixed emotions, they'd obviously prefer the team they support won, but they do get the satisfaction of screaming at the fall guy on the suit in the sidelines that they never liked from day one, and then boring all their mates in the pub about it afterwards. Everyone wants to be right.

[we are hibs]

People Blaming the crowd for us playing *****. Aye good one.


We played well for half an hour then turned to ****. Explain how thats the fans fault? Honestly the mentality of some folk to have any kind of dig at hibs fans on here is tiresome as ****. We are getting crowds of between 15-16k for league games. A few years ago we were getting 8k. The fans have done their bit and when there is a team on the park, man in the dugout and a general idea the fans can get behind and excites them then they do get behind the team. Even when they go through tough spells in games (see 2nd half of 17/18 season where the atmosphere and general feel around the club was brilliant).


Time for the team on the park to step up. Not the fans.

[Captain Trips]

OK everyone who booed today do not go back and all will be fine. No more "toxic" atmosphere and we can then play the high pressing football we were told about and go on to finish in Euro position.

Sorted.

[emerald green]

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I suspect there's a few who have mixed emotions, they'd obviously prefer the team they support won, but they do get the satisfaction of screaming at the fall guy on the suit in the sidelines that they never liked from day one, and then boring all their mates in the pub about it afterwards. Everyone wants to be right.

OK, but that's a bit different from "loads" hoping Hibs would "fail", i.e. lose the match. I agree everyone wants to be right, but that's never going to happen.

[BlackSheep]

I saw something today that I don’t think I have ever seen before... lewy looked to have given up a few times.... unsupportive of Middleton throughout the game and definitely not fit enough yet due to his injury.
With gray getting injured and lewy not himself, there was little inspiration in the team today bar Kamberi.... who we cannot afford to let go now... or we are in a lot more bother than it looks now.

[Northernhibee]

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As Pretty Boy eloquently put it - the crowd were booing the decision to take off SA especially given he was being played out of position - they were NOT booing the subs coming on.

However, you twist it any way you want as there seems to be some agenda, maybe in support of Hecky’s comments, that labels the fans as poor (impatient and toxic).

Very poor from the fans that support that view in my opinion.

So we agree, the booing was because a sub was made. Totally rational and helpful.

[hibee_girl]

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I saw something today that I don’t think I have ever seen before... lewy looked to have given up a few times.... unsupportive of Middleton throughout the game and definitely not fit enough yet due to his injury.
With gray getting injured and lewy not himself, there was little inspiration in the team today bar Kamberi.... who we cannot afford to let go now... or we are in a lot more bother than it looks now.

There was a point in the first half where Lewis was limping badly, wondering if he was carrying a knock for the rest of the game.

He was also having to tell Middleton constantly where to go to help him out defensively

[Captain Trips]

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So we agree, the booing was because a sub was made. Totally rational and helpful.

Not the problem or even close to it. PH and the starting 11 and 3 subs are the only factor in it all. They failed. Booing at a decision at a football match is not irrational in the context of football

[Northernhibee]

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Not the problem or even close to it. PH and the starting 11 and 3 subs are the only factor in it all. They failed.

Psychological research would disagree about it not affecting someone’s performance but what do they know?

[Keith_M]

I wasn't particularly enjoying the game, and was surprised at the substitutions, but I was totally shocked at the number of people booing.

The players coming on must have thought they were being booed, which doesn't fill people with confidence.

[hibeerealist]

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So we agree, the booing was because a sub was made. Totally rational and helpful.

The booing was due to the sub being made yes and what a shocking decision it was (well a huge part of our support thought so anyway, myself included).

So the support is now being labelled as not rational or helpful, have you been to many football matches??????

[madhatter]

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Psychological research would disagree about it not affecting someone’s performance but what do they know?

What was the cause of their poor performance for 60mins? No booing had occurred, to my knowledge, until the subs and then it went downhill. However, the players were garbage from the first whistle.

I suspect discussions are ongoing regarding Heckys post tbh. A review of the recruitment team should happen as well, crazy how poor our recruitment has been since first year in championship. So many duds. High press and we recruit Newell, while also having Mallan in the middle, ok then...

[madhatter]

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I wasn't particularly enjoying the game, and was surprised at the substitutions, but I was totally shocked at the number of people booing.

The players coming on must have thought they were being booed, which doesn't fill people with confidence.

If they had something about them they’d think “I’ll show you”, instead they got anxious. All of them as well. Proves again that we don’t have a strong leader on the park.

[hibsbollah]

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People Blaming the crowd for us playing *****. Aye good one.


We played well for half an hour then turned to ****. Explain how thats the fans fault? Honestly the mentality of some folk to have any kind of dig at hibs fans on here is tiresome as ****. We are getting crowds of between 15-16k for league games. A few years ago we were getting 8k. The fans have done their bit and when there is a team on the park, man in the dugout and a general idea the fans can get behind and excites them then they do get behind the team. Even when they go through tough spells in games (see 2nd half of 17/18 season where the atmosphere and general feel around the club was brilliant).


Time for the team on the park to step up. Not the fans.

No one saying its the fans fault. They are saying It makes a bad situation worse.

Other people ignore this, getting all sarcastic and keep repeating 'you're saying it's all the fans fault'.

Repeat to fade.

[Captain Trips]

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Psychological research would disagree about it not affecting someone’s performance but what do they know?

What research? So rather than maybe say I will show them all players **** it and can't take it?

[ColintonHibs]

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Aye very good blame the support. The booing was born out of sheer frustration. He started our best player out wide then took him off while leaving Mallan and Vela on. He deserves all the stick he got today. GGTTH.

If he’s that good he should be able to play anywhere. Not our best player

[hibsbollah]

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If they had something about them they’d think “I’ll show you”, instead they got anxious. All of them as well. Proves again that we don’t have a strong leader on the park.

Again, it's nothing to do with 'having something about them' or not. EVERYONE performs worse under critical negative environments. Its a fact.

[Captain Trips]

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If they had something about them they’d think “I’ll show you”, instead they got anxious. All of them as well. Proves again that we don’t have a strong leader on the park.

100% however the booing IMO had FA to do with score.

[hibsbollah]

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What research? So rather than maybe say I will show them all players **** it and can't take it?

All research.

[Captain Trips]

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Again, it's nothing to do with 'having something about them' or not. EVERYONE performs worse under critical negative environments. Its a fact.

I don't think it is a FACT, as everyone reacts to things differently so don't see how it's a FACT at all.

[Captain Trips]

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All research.

What such research? OK all our players have the same mind and the research you mention means everyone of our players will not play as well if booing. OK.

Interesting if the atmosphere was positive yet we have played ***** in past. Crap happens you can look outside the pitch all you like we have been pumped when good atmosphere and won when support quiet. We win or lose by the managers set up and the performance of the players. Anything else is an excuse.

[hibeerealist]

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If he’s that good he should be able to play anywhere. Not our best player

He is and you you are in a small minority of Hibs fans if you think he is not!!