Embarrassing "support" today

[The_Horde]

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One of the most toxic atmospheres i can remember at Easter Road. Even worse than the dark days of Lennon. The players confidence looks shot with all the booing. Really really sad. Im sure a bit of real support would have got us over the line today. I'm off this for a while before the inevitable abuse us directed my way.

Absolutely mental support. It was clear that Allan was knackered and getting a roasting.

Mental. If they showed half that passion in supporting the side we might've seen that out at the end there.

[B.H.F.C]

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Pish. It very often did.

It did. But he wouldn’t have played Allan on the right wing and put some of the blame on to the support.

[Heisenberg]

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Allan isn’t as good as the majority of hibs fans think

He’s been our only bright spot this season.

[tonyrougier123]

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Not read the whole thread as I’m sure there will be folk quite proud of the ridiculous reactions of the crowd at points.

The performance got progressively worse as the game went on and that tends to happen when the atmosphere is hostile.

The crowd are embarrassing- we’re the only ground in the SPL that is always half empty with 5 minutes left and the negativity and fickleness is beyond ridiculous.

Yes the team don’t look good, but the willingness for
the team to fail from a large chunk of our crowd is horrendous.

The pish football is to blame for results!certainly not the crowd.your at the point of kiddin yourself on.
Can ppl no just accept that the majority of supporters know when its no good enough and boo accordingly.
Or do we accept that saints are a better team than us,cause thats how it looked today.

[21.05.2016]

The fans were certainly not the problem today.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

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Pish. It very often did.

I think Lennon lost twice at home to St Johnstone? So it didn't exactly happen (a draw).

That's my point mate, but somebody on the bus was shouting that Lennon wouldn't have tolerated it etc.

[The_Horde]

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The fans were certainly not the problem today.

The fans were embarrassing but if the players don't have the stones or belief in their own ability to play under the pressure then words need to be had about our recruitment.

So much is said about us signing the "right person" but if they crumble under the pressure then maybe the "search filter" needs to change.

[madhatter]

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Not read the whole thread as I’m sure there will be folk quite proud of the ridiculous reactions of the crowd at points.

The performance got progressively worse as the game went on and that tends to happen when the atmosphere is hostile.

The crowd are embarrassing- we’re the only ground in the SPL that is always half empty with 5 minutes left and the negativity and fickleness is beyond ridiculous.

Yes the team don’t look good, but the willingness for
the team to fail from a large chunk of our crowd is horrendous.

Maybe it’s just a poor run of communication coming from the club? Maybe people are just a bit fed of the club.

- Bought over by an unknown quantity
- Budgets won’t change
- Fans will need to pony up to achieve plans
- High press
- Fitness levels above what they’ve ever known
- No money, we’ll only get someone worth same as Shaw if he goes on loan.
- Want to make players better.


Club keep talking but don’t seem to be doing the walking. I’ve only used the above statements to show things that have come out in the media. Touching on a few specifically, Slivka is the same or worse than when he arrived (player improvement?), we aren’t pressing and many of our players struggle to last 90mins without tiring badly.

Club should just call it honestly rather than talking rubbish. We’ll scrap for results but these players can’t play high press and we should offload some of these failures rather than hold onto them. Just to cheer everyone up, I can see us selling Kamberi and buying some rubbish as replacement.

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Not read the whole thread as I’m sure there will be folk quite proud of the ridiculous reactions of the crowd at points.

The performance got progressively worse as the game went on and that tends to happen when the atmosphere is hostile.

The crowd are embarrassing- we’re the only ground in the SPL that is always half empty with 5 minutes left and the negativity and fickleness is beyond ridiculous.

Yes the team don’t look good, but the willingness for
the team to fail from a large chunk of our crowd is horrendous.

Blame the crowd lol

[Scotty Leither]

So he makes a sarcastic comment to justify his banal substitution of a guy who's made a trademark defence-splitting pass from a central position having spent the game as a spectator on the wing a moment earlier, that should have been finished off by Doidge?

This comes on the back of his comment 2 weeks ago that some of the players were nervous at playing in front of a "busy" Easter Road, and his continued guff that we're going to play at a "high tempo" with a "high press"?

I think this guy's come up here thinking that the SPFL is an easy league and his lame signings maybe think the same, and they've collectively had a rude awakening.

I had misgivings about him after the meek defeat to Celtic in the Cup at ER last season when we barely laid a glove on them - a cup-tie in which we basically had a free hit and he appeared to be happy with the performance.

If he thinks he knows better than the rest of us fair enough, that's what he's paid a lot of (our) money for, but he'll need to back that up with better results and an understanding that the very least a Hibs team does, especially at Easter Road, is to have a go at whoever we're playing.

If he can't or won't meet that basic expectation, then he's best on his bike before too long, to be honest.

[leggeto]

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The stats dont lie,46%hibs 54%saints.hibs 9 shots saints 18.
Grimm.
No high press,no energy infact.
Cant remember for a long time a side like saints dominating us at easter road.
Even the most postive folk must agree needs a huge turnaround!!

This is how I seen it, very low pace slow build up,don't have anyone in the middle who can run at them.
Really need to up the urgency and tempo next game

[GreenCastle]

Previous managers who have failed have used the nervous at ER excuse.

If we can’t play in front of a home crowd we have zero chance at other stadiums / hampden or even Euro games.

Lennon and Stubbs didn’t ever say that.

[Lee Marvin]

IMO, and only IMO of course, you need to be a bit delusional to not see that a reaction like that today doesn't negatively affect the players performance.

I totally understand the frustration as that was deplorable stuff today, utterly spineless and inept. But the toxic atmosphere likely contributed to the result.

I was embarrassed by it. Hecky has no way back now, that's for sure!

[Tyler Durden]

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Absolutely mental support. It was clear that Allan was knackered and getting a roasting.

Mental. If they showed half that passion in supporting the side we might've seen that out at the end there.

Nope, Allan wasn’t booked.

[660]

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He’s been our only bright spot this season.

Kamberi has been better. SA is a gifted player in the right team but he was at a rank Dundee team doing zip for a while and had a good half season next to the greatest midfielder I’ve seen at hibs. Perspective is needed in regards to his performances.

I’m more concerned about the team as a whole

[Shrekko]

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Blame the crowd lol

Who’s blaming the crowd (lol) ?

Just because a lot of Hibs ‘fans’ are hoping we fail doesn’t mean the terrible performances as their fault. Just making the point that some ‘supporters’ would rather hope things get worse than help make things better.

Seeing it on social media already - it’s one thing or the other ... people withdrawing their support till the manager is sacked. There’s always something keeping some Hibs fans from being Hibs fans (lol).

[The_Horde]

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Nope, Allan wasn’t booked.

You're right. He should've been though and I've now edited the post.

[Real Emerald]

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Not read the whole thread as I’m sure there will be folk quite proud of the ridiculous reactions of the crowd at points.

The performance got progressively worse as the game went on and that tends to happen when the atmosphere is hostile.

The crowd are embarrassing- we’re the only ground in the SPL that is always half empty with 5 minutes left and the negativity and fickleness is beyond ridiculous.

Yes the team don’t look good, but the willingness for
the team to fail from a large chunk of our crowd is horrendous.

Our embarrassing crowd is still double what St Johnston and the likes have at the start of their games. Hibs have a very good support who are getting increasingly worried we’re about to head down the Fenlon/Butcher way again. No one is there to get on the players backs but we’re witnessing a dramatic fall in quality to what we had and what we should have given our resources and status. This is only heading one way and it’s NOT the crowds fault.

[Hibees1973]

Let’s be honest after the last 4-5 years of an upward curve it was going to end sometime.

Heckingbottom is getting it tight because of the previous good two managers we had. We now have inferior players and it is showing. Our defence is leaking goals, midfield is ponderous and we are relying on Kamberi to take all the weight up front. It really is not looking good. Even if we could be organised and well drilled we could grind out positive results. We are nowhere near even this.

If performances do not improve, never mind results, I doubt if our impatient and toxic support will give him until the end the year.

Not all his fault though. All these powder-puff and anonymous new signings are at the root of our problems, and this is down to our recruitment team,

If he goes, my choice would be Robinson at Motherwell. He has put together 2 or 3 well organised, attacking and positive teams at Fir Park. He knows the game up here and with the resources at Hibs would put us back on track,

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Who’s blaming the crowd (lol) ?

Just because a lot of Hibs ‘fans’ are hoping we fail doesn’t mean the terrible performances as their fault. Just making the point that some ‘supporters’ would rather hope things get worse than help make things better.

Seeing it on social media already - it’s one thing or the other ... people withdrawing their support till the manager is sacked. There’s always something keeping some Hibs fans from being Hibs fans (lol).

Heckingbottom said it was the anxiousness, eminating from the stands. He is blaming the fans, he is out of his depth

[Shrekko]

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Our embarrassing crowd is still double what St Johnston and the likes have at the start of their games. Hibs have a very good support who are getting increasingly worried we’re about to head down the Fenlon/Butcher way again. No one is there to get on the players backs but we’re witnessing a dramatic fall in quality to what we had and what we should have given our resources and status. This is only heading one way and it’s NOT the crowds fault.

Aw FFS nobody is saying it’s solely the crowds fault. That doesn’t mean certain things arent embarrassing or a lot of folk are hurting the club in some ways. Obviously a lot of people think abuse, booing, leaving early, not coming etc etc is the way to deal with hard times- fair enough, but other folk think different.

[hibeerealist]

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Not read the whole thread as I’m sure there will be folk quite proud of the ridiculous reactions of the crowd at points.

The performance got progressively worse as the game went on and that tends to happen when the atmosphere is hostile.

The crowd are embarrassing- we’re the only ground in the SPL that is always half empty with 5 minutes left and the negativity and fickleness is beyond ridiculous.

Yes the team don’t look good, but the willingness for
the team to fail from a large chunk of our crowd is horrendous.

describing the Hibs support as embarrassing you should be embarrassed!!

Reading clowns like you one would think other supports stay in the ground for 90 + mins, never disagree with managers or criticise their teams’ performance with no negativity in the ground.

Christ, Happy Clapper Centre this is.

[Hibees1973]

Let’s be honest after the last 4-5 years of an upward curve it was going to end sometime.

Heckingbottom is getting it tight because of the previous good two managers we had. We now have inferior players and it is showing. Our defence is leaking goals, midfield is ponderous and we are relying on Kamberi to take all the weight up front. It really is not looking good. Even if we could be organised and well drilled we could grind out positive results. We are nowhere near even this.

If performances do not improve, never mind results, I doubt if our impatient and toxic support will give him until the end the year.

Not all his fault though. All these powder-puff and anonymous new signings are at the root of our problems, and this is down to our recruitment team,

If he goes, my choice would be Robinson at Motherwell. He has put together 2 or 3 well organised, attacking and positive teams at Fir Park. He knows the game up here and with the resources at Hibs would put us back on track,

[hibsbollah]

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Does he not see how bad the football is?

I get the impression he's a stubborn man. Taking Allan off was always going to be a controversial move. Possibly he likes being seen to be radical. It partly made sense on a tactical level, because Scott wasn't working out wide and our whole right side was a liability, Kennedy was having a field day. So moving to a sort of diamond shape with an extra midfielder made sense.

But it's possible to think that PH was tactically poor today and that the reaction to it was *****, at the same time. I don't know why that's so difficult to understand.

Also, booing a player coming onto a pitch is going to negatively affect his performance. Proven psychological fact. Recruiting supposed tough players who can take abuse and whose performance isn't affected by abuse is just dreamland. They don't exist.

[emerald green]

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Who’s blaming the crowd (lol) ?

Just because a lot of Hibs ‘fans’ are hoping we fail doesn’t mean the terrible performances as their fault. Just making the point that some ‘supporters’ would rather hope things get worse than help make things better.

Seeing it on social media already - it’s one thing or the other ... people withdrawing their support till the manager is sacked. There’s always something keeping some Hibs fans from being Hibs fans (lol).

The bit in bold. What nonsense. Who are all these Hibs fans "hoping we fail"? Just because some "fans" criticise the team, or the manager, does not mean they hope we fail.

[Keith_M]

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Heckingbottom said it was the anxiousness, eminating from the stands. He is blaming the fans, he is out of his depth

If that's true, then he should just sod off now.

That's a pathetic excuse for his own failures.

[Shrekko]

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Heckingbottom said it was the anxiousness, eminating from the stands. He is blaming the fans, he is out of his depth

Well that was Heckingbottom.

It’s chicken and egg... I think everyone realises that and that players need to be able to block it out. It’s still easier ... I’m guessing, to play better with a more supportive crowd.

We all want Hibs to do well aye?

[NOLA]

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Disgusting stuff. Hope the booers don't come back. Football might be back to calderwood days but support certainly is. Away games will be better like they were then, when people actually turn up to support the tea.

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[hibsbollah]

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The bit in bold. What nonsense. Who are all these Hibs fans "hoping we fail"? Just because some "fans" criticise the team, or the manager, does not mean they hope we fail.

There were loads round me today, and a few on here judging by the 'told you so' tone of their posts, who are getting satisfaction from 'being right all along'.

[hibeerealist]

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Let’s be honest after the last 4-5 years of an upward curve it was going to end sometime.

Heckingbottom is getting it tight because of the previous good two managers we had. We now have inferior players and it is showing. Our defence is leaking goals, midfield is ponderous and we are relying on Kamberi to take all the weight up front. It really is not looking good. Even if we could be organised and well drilled we could grind out positive results. We are nowhere near even this.

If performances do not improve, never mind results, I doubt if our impatient and toxic support will give him until the end the year.

Not all his fault though. All these powder-puff and anonymous new signings are at the root of our problems, and this is down to our recruitment team,

If he goes, my choice would be Robinson at Motherwell. He has put together 2 or 3 well organised, attacking and positive teams at Fir Park. He knows the game up here and with the resources at Hibs would put us back on track,

Our support is NOT impatient and toxic what a load of s h it e.

When you look look at what our support has endured over the years, yes we have had three cup wins in the last 40 years or so but we have been let down MANY times by the club we love.

All the fans want is some consistency is that too Much to ask? We were promised a high pressing team with fitness levels they have never known - where is it????