Embarrassing "support" today

[Sir David Gray]

I personally didn't boo but I can understand why it happened.

I'd say Heckingbottom's not got long left. A growing number of fans are turning against him and I really can't see how that trend will be reversed.

I think a defeat in the derby next month will see his position become untenable.

[madhatter]

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He’s done, sadly. Not a sensible thing to say even though he has a point. He’ll never get fans back on his side unless we go for a lengthy winning run with attractive football and I just don’t see that happening. We’ve been through this before to know how it goes. I expect Ron won’t be pleased to see this disharmony from the fans to the manager and the players.

[hibsbollah]

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What manager blamed the fans for the result?

Not the Hibs manager anyway.

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Don't you know how this works? If you want to make a point, just make things up.

[Captain Trips]

I don't give a toss who booed who or when it's a convient excuse for some. The players and manager are the only ones involved today who could have won that game they failed and these games we need to win. PH and players 100%.

BTW not saying should be sacked but today is his and his players fault FA to do with crowd.

[Crazyhorse]

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Jesus.

Might work! Get him in.

[Leith Green]

So some fans boo a managers decision and some find that embarrassing? Like really??

Have a look at who and why they were booing in the 1st place. Our only decent creative midfielder taken off and going from 2 up front to 1 was a negative substitution far to early in the match and it reeked of hanging on for 1-0. Allan was also played wider than normal and had anquiter game because of where he was played. I honestly dont think Heckingbottom has got a clue what he is doing.

[scooby]

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They booed the manager and his decisions, that was plainly obvious.

Exactly, the boooing was aimed at our feckless clown of a manager.

[Leith Green]

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I don't give a toss who booed who or when it's a convient excuse for some. The players and manager are the only ones involved today who could have won that game they failed and these games we need to win. PH and players 100%.

BTW not saying should be sacked but today is his and his players fault FA to do with crowd.

The crowd booed a negative substitution from the manager. Big ****ing deal

[Hibs90]

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Deary me.

He is doing himself no favours at all with comments like that.

Matter of time now.

[Captain Trips]

It was a pile of piss for a home game the players and managers get plenty of cheers when all good a few boos and it's the supports fault. The only thing even remotley embarrassing out there was setup and play and some performances. No its the supporters booing that defends like pish. Ffs the players and PH need a long hard look at themselves tonight on a match we should win and discuss why we didn't and work on it not happening again. Fans booing aye right.

[Joe Baker2]

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What manager blamed the fans for the result?

Not the Hibs manager anyway.

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Read the article in the Edinburgh Evening News....

[staunchhibby]

Cant get link up

[cabbageandribs1875]

chatting to a friend in bathgate today before leaving...


hibs will beat st.johnstone today mate

me...ermm what makes you think that, st.johnstone have been utter p@sh, there's no other team in scotland they would want to play to get the confidence back again, i know heckingbottoms hibs better than he does

[ronaldo7]

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It's totally pointless behaviour and absolutely not for me.

However I think fans just want to see evidence of a plan and evidence of players caring. On the 2nd point I think fans often mistake lack of ability for lack of effort and I just think we can't play the way we were told we would be playing. We just look devoid of any coherent plan. Allan was garbage today but I think the booing was as much aimed at the bizarre decision to play him where we did as it was at the sub itself.

I go to games to support, not boo my team. I wish it was just a tiny minority but that was a sizeable number today. When that starts then it never, ever ends well for a manager. He's on borrowed time.

I boo'd the decision when our manager made his substitutions. I'd given my all for the team in the first 60 minutes of the match where I watched a great big hole in the middle of the park where Scott Allan should have been, given over to a team that were thumped 7-0 a couple of weeks ago.

They couldn't believe their luck.

Had we held on today, we'd have just papered over the cracks, and they're becoming wider by the week.

I'm not one for having a go at the team, as they play the formation and tactics deployed by their boss, and the buck stops with him.

The clock is ticking.

[007]

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I was sitting in the west stand. Nobody was booing the players, they were booing Heckingbottom. It started when he hooked Scott Allan. What the **** was that about????

For a manager to blame the fans for the result is a new low for this club. The guy makes Pat Fenlon look good.

I'll stick with him for now. But if we lose the derby at home next month he won't see Xmas.

Where does it say he blamed the fans for the result?

[hibby6270]

First things first. I booed the double substitution. Don’t for a minute feel ashamed to admit it. I’ve supported the club for way too long not to be entitled to an opinion on whether I agree with what a manager/coach does.

I didn’t boo the players. I didn’t even boo the reasoning or the tactical change of the substitutions.

What I was booing was Scott Allan being played out of position for 60 minutes and our glorious leader deemed it necessary to take Scotty off, rather than move him into centre mid where, as we all know, he is far more effective. Apparently Hecky hasn’t cottoned on to that fact yet. That is worrying.

I’m not saying the rest of our play was anywhere near the level we want or expect but to tactically change the the team as Hecky did, and still for it to show an unbalanced set up was not a positive move.

Did it cost us the win? Probably not but it seemed to me it gave St J more motivation to go forward which imho, should have been our initiative being the home team. Somehow it just came across as a backward step on the day and could have ultimately cost us even the draw.

[supermcginn]

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Where does it say he blamed the fans for the result?

He kind of does in his interview. He knows he's lost the fans and its nobody's fault bar his.

[Sammy7nil]

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Deary me.

He is doing himself no favours at all with comments like that.

Matter of time now.

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When the manager turns on the fans he really is backing himself in to a corner. He should have stuck to the facts Allan was one of ten he could have subbed as everyone was average of poor except Flo.

[Joe Baker2]

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Where does it say he blamed the fans for the result?

Paul Heckingbottom post-match

“It was disappointing. We were trying to get he boys to relax but the whole stadium was anxious and that spread to the players.....
“We have got to learn to keep working and dealing with that but there was a real anxiousness that spread from the stands to the players....

From where I was sitting the booing from the fans was aimed at Heckingbottom and definitely not the players. He certainly knew this, as the fans were calling his name. He's trying to deflect the back to the fans. The man has a lot to learn!

[hibsbollah]

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He kind of does in his interview. He knows he's lost the fans and its nobody's fault bar his.

He kind of doesn't.

He refers to the anxiousness getting to the players. Which was blatantly obvious to every ****er.

[Unseen work]

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Paul Heckingbottom post-match

“It was disappointing. We were trying to get he boys to relax but the whole stadium was anxious and that spread to the players.....
“We have got to learn to keep working and dealing with that but there was a real anxiousness that spread from the stands to the players....

From where I was sitting the booing from the fans was aimed at Heckingbottom and definitely not the players. He certainly knew this, as the fans were calling his name. He's trying to deflect the back to the fans. The man has a lot to learn!

They might be aimed at him but you’re deluded if you think it doesn’t have an impact on the players. He’s said nothing wrong there and is spot on

[supermcginn]

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He kind of doesn't.

He refers to the anxiousness getting to the players. Which was blatantly obvious to every ****er.

Anxiety which he causes! Loves his team sitting back. So much for pressing high 😂

[emerald green]

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Paul Heckingbottom post-match

“It was disappointing. We were trying to get he boys to relax but the whole stadium was anxious and that spread to the players.....
“We have got to learn to keep working and dealing with that but there was a real anxiousness that spread from the stands to the players....

From where I was sitting the booing from the fans was aimed at Heckingbottom and definitely not the players. He certainly knew this, as the fans were calling his name. He's trying to deflect the back to the fans. The man has a lot to learn!

No wonder the crowd "in the whole stadium" was anxious. That was because Hibs were so dire, and St J looked as if they might score every time they attacked.

[Johnny Clash]

I thought the atmosphere was ok today. For sure there was loud booing at the substitution but I wouldn’t describe the atmosphere as toxic . Personally I don’t see the point of booing my own team or manager during a game as it can only have a negative effect on our team. It’s only 3 games into the season so I’m not panicking but there needs to be improvement soon. i get the impression Hecky’s aspiration is simply to go for a top 6 finish which is poor and at this rate not guaranteed.

[tonyrougier123]

Aye he probably will take scott allan off again,but someone should ask him if he will continue to play an underperforming stevie mallan mores the point.
He badly needs a stint on the bench.

[hibeerealist]

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It's totally pointless behaviour and absolutely not for me.

However I think fans just want to see evidence of a plan and evidence of players caring. On the 2nd point I think fans often mistake lack of ability for lack of effort and I just think we can't play the way we were told we would be playing. We just look devoid of any coherent plan. Allan was garbage today but I think the booing was as much aimed at the bizarre decision to play him where we did as it was at the sub itself.

I go to games to support, not boo my team. I wish it was just a tiny minority but that was a sizeable number today. When that starts then it never, ever ends well for a manager. He's on borrowed time.

I think you have put that very well PB re SA, spot on and the fans see this they are not blind.

[Shrekko]

Not read the whole thread as I’m sure there will be folk quite proud of the ridiculous reactions of the crowd at points.

The performance got progressively worse as the game went on and that tends to happen when the atmosphere is hostile.

The crowd are embarrassing- we’re the only ground in the SPL that is always half empty with 5 minutes left and the negativity and fickleness is beyond ridiculous.

Yes the team don’t look good, but the willingness for
the team to fail from a large chunk of our crowd is horrendous.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

A result like this would NEVER have happened under Lennon....

[YanYansen]

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A result like this would NEVER have happened under Lennon....

Pish. It very often did.

[madhatter]

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He kind of doesn't.

He refers to the anxiousness getting to the players. Which was blatantly obvious to every ****er.

Maybe we should be recruiting more mentally resilient players then? In seriousness, we have some really poor players if anxiousness in the stands caused that today, these new players will never win anything in their careers if they don’t toughen up. Anxiousness cause us to get thumped 6-1 as well? Was it that anxiousness that caused us to need extra time in the cup? No, manager and the players are just collectively a bit garbage at the moment.

Hecky’s lost it tbh, he’s the sort of manager that players respect but they’ll keep pushing the boundaries to see what they can get away with. Hecky blaming fans for his players’ horrendous performances is not going to get him anywhere, we’ll have signs at ER before long. Does he not see how bad the football is?