Summer 2019 transfer thread

[Northernhibee]

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I didn't get the Doidge signing when we already had Shaw, what spend all that money?

Doidge wins a lot in the air, Shaw doesn't.

Similarly in a sprint, Shaw would destroy Doidge.

Two very different strikers.

[Gypsy King]

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He's in no position to be demanding that. If the deal goes ahead then it should be on our terms.

There's a lot of risk to signing him. What kind of shape is he in? Has the last few years dented his confidence-remove the lads cheekiness and I'm not sure whats left as a top division player.

I'd sign him provided the deal suits us.

I meant reasonable for us. Unlike the last one.

[Torto7]

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I meant reasonable for us. Unlike the last one.

O.k got you.

How about 25 mill for most clubs and 50 for the huns or gunts?

[flash]

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We should be developing Shaw. Ph has stalled his development and now we have splashed cash on a tier 4 donkey.

Lovely.

[Since452]

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We should be developing Shaw. Ph has stalled his development and now we have splashed cash on a tier 4 donkey.

Shaw was so good last season we brought McNulty in before Heckingbottom was here

[CapitalGreen]

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We should be developing Shaw. Ph has stalled his development and now we have splashed cash on a tier 4 donkey.

Poor from you Rafa.

[J-C]

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Doidge wins a lot in the air, Shaw doesn't.

Similarly in a sprint, Shaw would destroy Doidge.

Two very different strikers.

If we're playing 3 up top then Shaw is a better choice.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

I think shaws been here long enough, if he was going to get any better then we would be seeing that on the park

[brog]

A genuine question. Is there any current top tier SPFL team with a more prolific home grown striker than Oli Shaw?

[Speedway]

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They are flashing the cash again.

Folk on kickback saying Whelan’s on £8k per week plus incentives. You can bet that Naismith will be on at least that.

I suppose if the ‘mystery benefactor’ is willing to hand over money to pay these wages it’s fair enough, but I doubt they are living within their means if you took that money out. Same old Hearts, they can’t help themselves.

Either that or it’s the FoH cash being used.

[Smartie]

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A genuine question. Is there any current top tier SPFL team with a more prolific home grown striker than Oli Shaw?

Whilst it's a fair and interesting question it is also a pretty low bar, as I can't think of any top tier team with a home grown striker.

Do Hearts have a 5th or 6th choice Irish boy?

[Allant1981]

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We should be developing Shaw. Ph has stalled his development and now we have splashed cash on a tier 4 donkey.

You dont half spout some rubbish

[The 90+2]

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Whilst it's a fair and interesting question it is also a pretty low bar, as I can't think of any top tier team with a home grown striker.

Do Hearts have a 5th or 6th choice Irish boy?

Connor McLennan?

[hibee-boys]

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A genuine question. Is there any current top tier SPFL team with a more prolific home grown striker than Oli Shaw?

Doubt it, Shaw is one of the best in Europe.

Sorry, couldn't resist🙈

[GreenCastle]

Shaw going on loan would make sense.

He needs a run of games at a decent level.

He’s also not a left winger of a front 3.

Shaw like Cummings and Flo really needs a strike partner. I know Flo can try play lone striker but even when Doidge came on against Saints he played better with help.

Flos best football has been with someone alongside him.

Playing 2 up would also help Heckys high press as much easier as a 2 than as an individual. 3-5-2 possibly or 4-1-3-2 (if we find a proper defensive midfielder).

[Since452]

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Either that or it’s the FoH cash being used.

Somebody said they're raking in 200k per month through FOH so quite possibly

[SouthMoroccoStu]

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Shaw going on loan would make sense.

He needs a run of games at a decent level.

He’s also not a left winger of a front 3.

Shaw like Cummings and Flo really needs a strike partner. I know Flo can try play lone striker but even when Doidge came on against Saints he played better with help.

Flos best football has been with someone alongside him.

Playing 2 up would also help Heckys high press as much easier as a 2 than as an individual. 3-5-2 possibly or 4-1-3-2 (if we find a proper defensive midfielder).

Well said GC

[Since90+2]

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A genuine question. Is there any current top tier SPFL team with a more prolific home grown striker than Oli Shaw?

If by home grown you mean Scottish then Griffiths.

[mvteng]

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Shaw going on loan would make sense.

It would only make sense if we have another striker coming in.

Any injury to either Kamberi (or Doidge) and we will struggle.

From what I've seen, I would play him instead of Doidge. I think a Kamberi/Shaw partnership could blossom

[The 90+2]

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If by home grown you mean Scottish then Griffiths.

I’m thinking brought through by that particular team.

[The 90+2]

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It would only make sense if we have another striker coming in.

Any injury to either Kamberi (or Doidge) and we will struggle.

From what I've seen, I would play him instead of Doidge. I think a Kamberi/Shaw partnership could blossom

We would struggle regardless of Shaw being there if he’s played up top on his own in any game probably ever.

Even Steven Fletcher, who’s probably the best player we’ve produced up front who is completely natural at playing up top on his own cane through at Hibs on the left, then up top as a two for years before he ever played a line striking role.

[Speedway]

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Doidge wins a lot in the air, Shaw doesn't.

Similarly in a sprint, Shaw would destroy Doidge.

Two very different strikers.

Yet similar in that neither is prolific.

[Robbo6-2]

Another point that concerns me about Heckingbottom is the development of Oli Shaw.

Prior to Heckingbottom arriving Oli was coming onto a game and scored a few goals and had a really good game at home to Aberdeen.

Since then, Hecky has persisted in playing him out of position wide left coming off the bench for limited minutes here and there. No wonder his confidence is shot to pieces.

Its clear as day hes never a left winger in a front three
Theres definitely a player there and i think a regular run playing up front with another club will do him the world of good.

By the time he comes back i think the manager will be out the door anyway

[BlackSheep]

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Shaw going on loan would make sense.

He needs a run of games at a decent level.

He’s also not a left winger of a front 3.

Shaw like Cummings and Flo really needs a strike partner. I know Flo can try play lone striker but even when Doidge came on against Saints he played better with help.

Flos best football has been with someone alongside him.

Playing 2 up would also help Heckys high press as much easier as a 2 than as an individual. 3-5-2 possibly or 4-1-3-2 (if we find a proper defensive midfielder).

Would love to see this formation played...

Marciano

Lewy
Porteous
Jackson
Gray/James

Vela

Middleton
Allan
Horgan

Flo
Doidge/Shaw/Cummings (wishful thinking!)

My only issue with it would be the lightweight midfield.

[Barman Stanton]

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Another point that concerns me about Heckingbottom is the development of Oli Shaw.

Prior to Heckingbottom arriving Oli was coming onto a game and scored a few goals and had a really good game at home to Aberdeen.

Since then, Hecky has persisted in playing him out of position wide left coming off the bench for limited minutes here and there. No wonder his confidence is shot to pieces.

Its clear as day hes never a left winger in a front three
Theres definitely a player there and i think a regular run playing up front with another club will do him the world of good.

By the time he comes back i think the manager will be out the door anyway

The one good thing about all the new players is that Shaw is not the subject of the abuse this season. In fact, such is the dislike for our new players, some now want him to be given a chance. What a strange place this forum us at times.

[brog]

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Whilst it's a fair and interesting question it is also a pretty low bar, as I can't think of any top tier team with a home grown striker.

Do Hearts have a 5th or 6th choice Irish boy?

The fact that it's a low bar is what made me ask the question. I really couldn't think of any top tier club with a prolific striker who they had brought through the ranks. Someone mentioned McLennan at Dons, I like him but he's got 3 top league goals. To me it just shows how difficult it is & maybe we should appreciate Oli more. Having said that I wouldn't be averse to him going on loan to St J if he was adequately replaced.

[GreenCastle]

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It would only make sense if we have another striker coming in.

Any injury to either Kamberi (or Doidge) and we will struggle.

From what I've seen, I would play him instead of Doidge. I think a Kamberi/Shaw partnership could blossom

Of course - Shaw going and no one coming in would be madness.

[Billy Whizz]

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A genuine question. Is there any current top tier SPFL team with a more prolific home grown striker than Oli Shaw?

Yet all we do is knock them down

[The_Horde]

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Yet all we do is knock them down

If you can't hack the pressure you're not ready for Hibs.

[Billy Whizz]

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If you can't hack the pressure you're not ready for Hibs.

You’re not suggesting Oli can’t take the pressure, are you?