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    Quote Originally Posted by stantonsboots View Post
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    I agree totally with every word you say . I run my own business and its true people only see me and my 3 staff and think because my shop is busy I must be minted
    because I only have 3 wages to pay , but what about tax, vat, electric , stationery , uniforms , transportation , maintenance , e.t.c.
    the things you don't see?
    A football club is exactly the same only a thousand times bigger, that is why the manager is given a budget for the playing side , just like the office manager will have a budget , the maintenance manager e.t.c
    but as regards Macgregor and Gray i'm hoping that is a good investment for the future as they are both born leaders. Only time will tell I suppose?
    We all understand that the manager gets a set budget it's what that budget is that's the sticking point.

    If he's at last seasons levels of expenditure already with this squad then he's made an utter pigs ear of it.

    I look at who left last season, the McGinn money(which we've seen precious little evidence of it being any good on the pitch thus far) plus the clause bonus for Villas promotion as well as our healthy crowds and what we've spent during this window doesn't match what I and a lot of others would expect.

    If we're looking for bargains and then those supposed bargains end up costing an arm and a leg then it's not a bargain anymore. The lower leagues in England are full of far more overpaid huddies than hidden gems.

    Maybe Ron Gordon could spend some money on scouts overseas. The level below MLS in the states maybe? The Belgium league brings in players galore from Africa, the Huns got Freddo from Finland. It just seems lazy and and overly crowded looking at players in league 1 etc.


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    It's obvious to every Hibs supporter that we need a defensive midfielder. What about David Gray for this position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7heaven View Post
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    It's obvious to every Hibs supporter that we need a defensive midfielder. What about David Gray for this position.
    He's a crock, how many games will he get when having to tackle more in the middle of the park?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torto7 View Post
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    We all understand that the manager gets a set budget it's what that budget is that's the sticking point.

    If he's at last seasons levels of expenditure already with this squad then he's made an utter pigs ear of it.

    I look at who left last season, the McGinn money(which we've seen precious little evidence of it being any good on the pitch thus far) plus the clause bonus for Villas promotion as well as our healthy crowds and what we've spent during this window doesn't match what I and a lot of others would expect.

    If we're looking for bargains and then those supposed bargains end up costing an arm and a leg then it's not a bargain anymore. The lower leagues in England are full of far more overpaid huddies than hidden gems.

    Maybe Ron Gordon could spend some money on scouts overseas. The level below MLS in the states maybe? The Belgium league brings in players galore from Africa, the Huns got Freddo from Finland. It just seems lazy and and overly crowded looking at players in league 1 etc.
    We didn't go bust when we had crowds of 8 or 9 thousand whilst playing in the Championship and signing an entire team - and some very , very good players at that.

    There should be significantly more money sloshing around now. Maybe not the amount of money that allows us to go head to head with Rangers and Celtic for players but a budget that allows you to have a central midfield and a bit of cover.

    If our budget is spent then it is either far too small or it has been mis-spent on rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7heaven View Post
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    It's obvious to every Hibs supporter that we need a defensive midfielder. What about David Gray for this position.
    Full blooded and heart of a lion but he’s not a good enough ball player for me.

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    Over a million a year for 6 or 7 years now. What would you call it?
    Badly spent...look what they got for their money

    1. Finishing behind us with a fraction of the money twice
    2. An £18m & counting unfinished embarassing monument to ego
    3. Cathro
    4. Eye bleeding hoofball
    5. Harry Potter and the Tactics of Gloom

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    We didn't go bust when we had crowds of 8 or 9 thousand whilst playing in the Championship and signing an entire team - and some very , very good players at that.

    There should be significantly more money sloshing around now. Maybe not the amount of money that allows us to go head to head with Rangers and Celtic for players but a budget that allows you to have a central midfield and a bit of cover.

    If our budget is spent then it is either far too small or it has been mis-spent on rubbish.
    Remember Farmer mentioned when the takeover happened that the financial results will be very impressive when they’re out later this year.

    I hope we’re not getting back to the days of success being measured by a balance sheet.

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    Wilfred Bony training with Newport in League 2. Currently a free agent

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    Surely a journalist has asked hecky an update on his current morale with the squad since Sunday.

    clearly light and not good enough in midfield and up front

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    He's a crock, how many games will he get when having to tackle more in the middle of the park?
    How utterly disrespectful...what a ridiculous post about a Club legend. I despair at this place sometimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderhibbie76 View Post
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    How utterly disrespectful...what a ridiculous post about a Club legend. I despair at this place sometimes

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    He's not wrong though. If David Gray wasn't injury prone he'd be at a higher level and that beautiful day might not have happened. If he played in midfield against some of the hatchetmen in the league his appearances would be even less.

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    It's obvious to every Hibs supporter that we need a defensive midfielder. What about David Gray for this position.
    It is indeed obvious we need a defensive midfielder and I was just thinking about this last night. Not David Gray but perhaps Paul Hanlon? Iirc correctly he was a midfielder originally or certainly wasn't a centre-half. Milligan was a centre-half but played midfield and Paul's long range passing is quite good and he is struggling a bit at the back at the moment. Central defence would be Porteous when fit and Jackson/ McGregor. Just a suggestion folks!

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    What’s the obsession on here of converting our defenders to defensive mids? Hanlon, Jackson, Ambrose and now Gray have all been mentioned.

    Can we not just buy one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbiemacfie View Post
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    It is indeed obvious we need a defensive midfielder and I was just thinking about this last night. Not David Gray but perhaps Paul Hanlon? Iirc correctly he was a midfielder originally or certainly wasn't a centre-half. Milligan was a centre-half but played midfield and Paul's long range passing is quite good and he is struggling a bit at the back at the moment. Central defence would be Porteous when fit and Jackson/ McGregor. Just a suggestion folks!
    Hanlon gets his feet tied up at centre half, in midfield he'd be closed down even quicker. His passing is good enough though. Jackson apparently has played DM. As has Tom James. I also wouldn't be against Lewis moving back to midfield at some point if we had the right cover at LB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderhibbie76 View Post
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    How utterly disrespectful...what a ridiculous post about a Club legend. I despair at this place sometimes

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    His post is spot on. Gray is past it when it comes to flying into tackles, he barely gets away with being a right back just now. We'd be forking out on bandages if he was deployed as a DM, plus nippy players would run rings round him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen work View Post
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    What’s the obsession on here of converting our defenders to defensive mids? Hanlon, Jackson, Ambrose and now Gray have all been mentioned.

    Can we not just buy one?
    What’s the obsession with DM in general on here, it is possible to have disciplined players and I’m sure that’s what vela has been signed for, wether he is what we need remains to be seen but I think he will do well for us.

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    Folk were going mental last season when we had this so called unbalanced team, now we want an unbalanced team when we've signed all our players early but obviously we can see they are mostly humpty so we need to start shoe horning players into positions they dont normally play.

    I even read we should sign efe again if possible, as players like him dont often come available and we should sign him even though we are short everywhere else, and would obviously leave us still short having spent money on him which would leave us once again with an unbalanced squad.

    You cannae make some of this sheite up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Folk were going mental last season when we had this so called unbalanced team, now we want an unbalanced team when we've signed all our players early but obviously we can see they are mostly humpty so we need to start shoe horning players into positions they dont normally play.

    I even read we should sign efe again if possible, as players like him dont often come available and we should sign him even though we are short everywhere else, and would obviously leave us still short having spent money on him which would leave us once again with an unbalanced squad.

    You cannae make some of this sheite up.
    People on an Internet forum talking *****? Surely no, whatever next? 😉

    I’m sure you must have been guilty of that once or twice BH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    People on an Internet forum talking *****? Surely no, whatever next? 😉

    I’m sure you must have been guilty of that once or twice BH?
    aye maybe the odd time or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis Hazlett View Post
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    Wilfred Bony training with Newport in League 2. Currently a free agent
    That shipped sailed last summer when we turned down an option to loan him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen work View Post
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    What’s the obsession on here of converting our defenders to defensive mids? Hanlon, Jackson, Ambrose and now Gray have all been mentioned.

    Can we not just buy one?
    Pretty sure everyone suggesting it (I include myself) have done so because our current midfield is weak, can't tackle and will be left wanting against the better sides. I'd prefer we sign a genuine midfielder but our manager has twice stated the budget has been spent. therefore the alternative is to put a defender in that role.

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    Personally, I think our budget should be bigger than teams who have smaller budgets than ours.

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    And teams with a smaller budget than us should have less of a budget to spend than we do

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    Yes my Dads Belgian and my Mums Portuguese. I actually watched a lot of De Bruyne and Ronaldo when they were younger so you could say I’ve got an eye for a player.
    And yer Uncles a Crab. Boring, sideways, stinks of fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Folk were going mental last season when we had this so called unbalanced team, now we want an unbalanced team when we've signed all our players early but obviously we can see they are mostly humpty so we need to start shoe horning players into positions they dont normally play.

    I even read we should sign efe again if possible, as players like him dont often come available and we should sign him even though we are short everywhere else, and would obviously leave us still short having spent money on him which would leave us once again with an unbalanced squad.

    You cannae make some of this sheite up.
    You made a great deal of that ***** up didn’t you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iggy Pope View Post
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    You made a great deal of that ***** up didn’t you?
    Nope, none whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedway View Post
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    Personally, I think our budget should be bigger than teams who have smaller budgets than ours.
    What makes u think that?

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    City sending some Japanese superstar up to Gorgie.

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    City sending some Japanese superstar up to Gorgie.
    If its Itakura I think they hand linked themselves with this boy before. No idea if he's any good?

    Bizarrely Levein said they would only sign around 4 players this window. Can't remember all their signings but think it's

    GK on loan from Man utd
    Halket
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    Boy from Cardiff
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    This guy from Man City if he comes in.

    Not sure if I missed anyone but that's another busy window and I wouldn't say it's come cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by 04Sauzee View Post
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    If its Itakura I think they hand linked themselves with this boy before. No idea if he's any good?

    Bizarrely Levein said they would only sign around 4 players this window. Can't remember all their signings but think it's

    GK on loan from Man utd
    Halket
    Naismith
    Washington
    Boy from Cardiff
    Walker
    This guy from Man City if he comes in.

    Not sure if I missed anyone but that's another busy window and I wouldn't say it's come cheap
    They also had someone at left back on Saturday I didn't recognise and looked too old to be one of their youngsters.

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