Brexit - What Now.

[Mibbes Aye]

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What I'm wondering, politicians are elected to run the country for the 'best'.

It's always been assumed that they have more info than Joe public so can make informed decisions that benefit/protect the nation... My question is, if a group of politicians actually damage the country for ideological reasons is that treason?

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It’s an interesting question but I suppose the problem with ideologues is they genuinely believe what they are doing is the right thing for the right reasons! So they can’t see themselves as treasonous, they see themselves as patriotic or somehow acting in the greater good for all!

The lack of a formal constitution probably doesn’t help but I don’t think the presence of one would have made a difference in this case.

[CloudSquall]

Italy heading for an election which is likely to yield a government heavy to the right and extremely at odds with Brussels, likely to be right around the time of Brexit.

[Ozyhibby]

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Italy heading for an election which is likely to yield a government heavy to the right and extremely at odds with Brussels, likely to be right around the time of Brexit.

That’s ok, wait 6 months and they’ll have another one.


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[mjhibby]

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It's already building towards that. Tories now saying that the EU are refusing to have any discussion

Utter lies from gove. Buffoon Boris says they are still negotiating. The Tory tags are in overdrive with misinformation. The masters of fake news just like trump. They can't even get their fake news correct. I think it's beginning to dawn on Boris and his troop of clowns how bad it could get. Boris was only interested in power and is incapable of understanding how anything works. He all mouth and no action. His promises of money for various things are utterly garbage and the only reasoning I can come up with is that he hopes to con the public then hope it all turns out ok by some miracle. Never have I had such utter disdain for this horrible Tory party. Much as I don't like the behaviour of MPs plotting to bring down Boris it's only they who can stop the catastrophic no deal brexit. Democracy is reduced to Ken Clarke bringing down s Tory govt. Never thought I'd see that in my lifetime.

[majorhibs]

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Utter lies from gove. Buffoon Boris says they are still negotiating. The Tory tags are in overdrive with misinformation. The masters of fake news just like trump. They can't even get their fake news correct. I think it's beginning to dawn on Boris and his troop of clowns how bad it could get. Boris was only interested in power and is incapable of understanding how anything works. He all mouth and no action. His promises of money for various things are utterly garbage and the only reasoning I can come up with is that he hopes to con the public then hope it all turns out ok by some miracle. Never have I had such utter disdain for this horrible Tory party. Much as I don't like the behaviour of MPs plotting to bring down Boris it's only they who can stop the catastrophic no deal brexit. Democracy is reduced to Ken Clarke bringing down s Tory govt. Never thought I'd see that in my lifetime.

How do people not see through this promise anything & everything charade just to be in power?

[lapsedhibee]

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How do people not see through this promise anything & everything charade just to be in power?

You don't even need to be particularly cynical to recognise that most of everything that is coming out of Downing St at the moment is BS. The genius Cummings has decreed that his cabinet spokesdummies are not allowed to say 'backstop' without prefixing it 'undemocratic' or 'antidemocratic', so they do, ad nauseam. His latest pish is that 'politicians are not allowed to decide which votes they respect'. It was an advisory referendum, you cretin, not an election.

[Moulin Yarns]

Here we go. Downwards to Brexit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49290926

[CloudSquall]

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Here we go. Downwards to Brexit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49290926

I wonder if this will affect the timing of an election, another quarter of negative growth which is likely would see us in a recession..

[CloudSquall]

Some more strength and security from the union.

http://www.businessinsider.fr/us/michael-gove-discussed-closing-banks-the-day-after-no-deal-brexit-2019-8

[lapsedhibee]

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Some more strength and security from the union.

http://www.businessinsider.fr/us/michael-gove-discussed-closing-banks-the-day-after-no-deal-brexit-2019-8

Why stop at closing the banks? Shirley if the shops were closed as well, that would lessen the impact of there being no fresh food on shelves. I think Govey's on to something .

[CloudSquall]

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Why stop at closing the banks? Shirley if the shops were closed as well, that would lessen the impact of there being no fresh food on shelves. I think Govey's on to something .

It's going to be an extra "Bank Holiday", a nice day off for everyone, what's to worry about

[lapsedhibee]

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It's going to be an extra "Bank Holiday", a nice day off for everyone, what's to worry about

That sounds great. This government certainly knows how to make us Britons feel good about ourselves again. Next, get India back .

[weecounty hibby]

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That sounds great. This government certainly knows how to make us Britons feel good about ourselves again. Next, get India back .

More likely to see an Indian takeover of the UK!!

[Moulin Yarns]

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More likely to see an Indian takeover of the UK!!

I think that's more likely to be an Indian takeaway of the UK.

[Ozyhibby]

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/0...mpression=true
Some hope that remain are getting their act together.


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[ronaldo7]

I see England and Wales were running rehearsals for a no deal Brexit yesterday. Who switched the lights off.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Things seems to have gone quiet i.e. no deal looks a certainty. Bozo and his loonies are already setting the narrative that the EU won't negotiate. Of course he doesn't mention that negotiations took months and produced a 600 page withdrawal agreement, only for parliamaent to reject it three times. We had a bespoke withdrawal agreement in which we managed to get the best terms possible, hence there is nothing more than the EU can give, without breaking its own rules on the single market and customs union.

There just isn't time to open up this can of worms again before Halloween.

[Ozyhibby]

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I see England and Wales were running rehearsals for a no deal Brexit yesterday. Who switched the lights off.

Imagine that had happened here? The Hibs.net unionists would have been all over it as clear proof that Scotland is incapable of managing its own affairs.


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[weecounty hibby]

According to the beeb fishing rights and protecting the fishing grounds not looking like the walk in the park it was meant to be.

[Fife-Hibee]

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According to the beeb fishing rights and protecting the fishing grounds not looking like the walk in the park it was meant to be.

I hope the fishers get exactly what they're demanding. Perhaps then they'll feel that bullet in their foot.

[Jack]

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According to the beeb fishing rights and protecting the fishing grounds not looking like the walk in the park it was meant to be.

Made all the more complicated as, I understand, almost half the UK licences were sold to overseas companies.

[Just Alf]

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Imagine that had happened here? The Hibs.net unionists would have been all over it as clear proof that Scotland is incapable of managing its own affairs.


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Thay have a point... Why did we not get to practice as well? :grr

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[Future17]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49314840

I can only imagine the reaction if Boris Johnson suggested an all-male cabinet.

[heretoday]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49314840

I can only imagine the reaction if Boris Johnson suggested an all-male cabinet.

I thought Caroline Lucas was supposed to be above this sort of stunt.

[Saturday Boy]

I’m currently in Slovenia, combining a holiday with watching Hibs Ladies in the Champions League. Whenever I’m asked where I come from, I get the same bewildered response and disbelief that the UK wants to leave the EU. There’s a road junction just a few hundred metres from where I’m sitting, not a motorway, just a road in town. Hungary is straight ahead, Croatia to the right and Austria to the left. And people and goods pass freely between all four countries. It’s no surprise that they all think we’re mad.

[Moulin Yarns]

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I thought Caroline Lucas was supposed to be above this sort of stunt.

If you mean stopping Brexit, then that is part of her job.

[CloudSquall]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49314840

I can only imagine the reaction if Boris Johnson suggested an all-male cabinet.

If comments like that were made the other way around there would be mock outrage galore until someone was sacked and grovelling for forgiveness in the media.

It's the sort of nonsense that puts me right off voting Green.

[Future17]

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If comments like that were made the other way around there would be mock outrage galore until someone was sacked and grovelling for forgiveness in the media.

It's the sort of nonsense that puts me right off voting Green.

It's ok; it's a different party in Scotland (presuming that's where you live).

[Hibernia&Alba]

This is the point we've now reached: the brave new world of limitless possibilities we were promised were waiting for us outside the EU has shrunk to 'British Bulldog spirit'.

[lapsedhibee]

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This is the point we've now reached: the brave new world of limitless possibilities we were promised were waiting for us outside the EU has shrunk to 'British Bulldog spirit'.

Such a gloomster, James O'Brien, what with his logic and his rational thought processes.