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    Tories going very hard on the view that they'll oppose #indyref2 no matter what.

    This must go against basic democratic rights? How long can they really maintain such a position?
    Has the genius Cummings told them to say it would be undemocratic yet?


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    Tories going very hard on the view that they'll oppose #indyref2 no matter what.

    This must go against basic democratic rights? How long can they really maintain such a position?
    Forever.

    It's much harder for Labour who really have no route back unless they can win back some of the Indy supporters they've lost. Even in current polling putting them at just 18%, 40% of that 18% wants a referendum and would vote Yes.

    But for the Tories, they are solidly, intransigently ~100% NO, so they might as well dig in around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Forever.

    It's much harder for Labour who really have no route back unless they can win back some of the Indy supporters they've lost. Even in current polling putting them at just 18%, 40% of that 18% wants a referendum and would vote Yes.

    But for the Tories, they are solidly, intransigently ~100% NO, so they might as well dig in around it.
    They're playing a very dangerous game. Using English votes to dictate over a country that rejects them. No wonder they're planning to roll out soldiers onto the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    Tories going very hard on the view that they'll oppose #indyref2 no matter what.

    This must go against basic democratic rights? How long can they really maintain such a position?
    This will be their stance forever and a day. It will actually get stronger and more about now that UK Labour has said they won't stand in the way of Indyref2. They will try to hoover up the last of the Labour Unionists who are Unionists first and Labour second

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    David Mundell says he will not try to block a no-deal Brexit...
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/s...zeovdU-r8B-PZY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    David Mundell says he will not try to block a no-deal Brexit...
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/s...zeovdU-r8B-PZY
    "The Conservative MP, who was sacked from his position by Boris Johnson, also said that Scotland should not be denied a second independence referendum if a pro-independence majority is returned at the 2021 election on a manifesto of holding a new vote."

    We already have that pro-independence majority at Holyrood. Can't he count?

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    David Mundell says he will not try to block a no-deal Brexit...
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/s...zeovdU-r8B-PZY
    In other news, my dog has declared he won't try to block the dualling of the A9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    In other news, my dog has declared he won't try to block the dualling of the A9.
    He says that now, but once he starts to see trees getting pulled down .. ?
    But you know it ain't all about wealth,
    as long as you make a note to .. EXPRESS YOURSELF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevieC View Post
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    He says that now, but once he starts to see trees getting pulled down .. ?
    I was thinking of all the bones he could find around the Killiecrankie section
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    David Mundell says he will not try to block a no-deal Brexit...
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/s...zeovdU-r8B-PZY
    The Scottish Tories would vote to dissolve Holyrood and impose direct rule if Boris told them to. Anything to save the union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diclonius View Post
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    The Scottish Tories would vote to dissolve Holyrood and impose direct rule if Boris told them to. Anything to save the union.
    Anything except Brexit, they'd much rather have Brexit than the union.

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    The tories are still bleating on about the "SNP" car parking charges. Never mind that the power is devolved to local councils and the only council so far choosing to impliment the power are the tory/libdem coalition in Perth and Kinross.

    I really hope people there are clued up enough to see right through this, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    The tories are still bleating on about the "SNP" car parking charges. Never mind that the power is devolved to local councils and the only council so far choosing to impliment the power are the tory/libdem coalition in Perth and Kinross.

    I really hope people there are clued up enough to see right through this, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
    Where did you hear that pkc are introducing the workplace parking charges? I live in pkc and have not heard anything.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Where did you hear that pkc are introducing the workplace parking charges? I live in pkc and have not heard anything.
    Just last year conservative councilors in Perth and Kinross voted for the local authority to seek consent to introduce a workplace parking levy.

    They're pretending to reject the very powers they were seeking consent to use last year. Why would they have been seeking these powers if they had no intentions of using them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    Just last year conservative councilors in Perth and Kinross voted for the local authority to seek consent to introduce a workplace parking levy.

    They're pretending to reject the very powers they were seeking consent to use last year. Why would they have been seeking these powers if they had no intentions of using them?
    Can't you provide a link. Reason I ask is that this is a quote from the courier dated 15 February2019

    But the Conservative group leader confirmed he will not introduce the controversial tourist tax or workplace parking levy, despite the Scottish Government offering local authorities the power to do so.
    “Despite the poor settlement from the Scottish Government, we’ve decided not to progress with a visitor tax nor a parking levy,” he said.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    Just last year conservative councilors in Perth and Kinross voted for the local authority to seek consent to introduce a workplace parking levy.

    They're pretending to reject the very powers they were seeking consent to use last year. Why would they have been seeking these powers if they had no intentions of using them?
    Come on Fife, you are struggling to prove this because the Scottish Government did not introduce the possibility of a workplace parking levy until this year as part of the Scottish Greens budget proposals, so how could a Council have voted on it beforehand?
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Come on Fife, you are struggling to prove this because the Scottish Government did not introduce the possibility of a workplace parking levy until this year as part of the Scottish Greens budget proposals, so how could a Council have voted on it beforehand?
    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/nottingham/hi/people_and_places/newsid_8583000/8583339.stm&ved=2ahUKEwjUiZyd7o7kAhXEuHEKHb72DUsQF jACegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw2LzWPdvtH_01sbHitaX3QT

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/nottingham/hi/people_and_places/newsid_8583000/8583339.stm&ved=2ahUKEwjUiZyd7o7kAhXEuHEKHb72DUsQF jACegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw2LzWPdvtH_01sbHitaX3QT

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    Very good Ron, but all Councils in England and Wales already have the ability to introduce the Workplace parking levy, Only Nottingham have done so. NO SCOTTISH Local Authority has done so, yet. Certainly not Perth and Kinross Council.

    PS, I didn't even need to open the link to know what it was.
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    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Come on Fife, you are struggling to prove this because the Scottish Government did not introduce the possibility of a workplace parking levy until this year as part of the Scottish Greens budget proposals, so how could a Council have voted on it beforehand?
    I've been trying to find information about it via google search. But considering the sheer number of fake SNP bad stories surrounding the policy over the past couple of years, it's like trying to find a needle in a haystake. So bear with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    I've been trying to find information about it via google search. But considering the sheer number of fake SNP bad stories surrounding the policy over the past couple of years, it's like trying to find a needle in a haystake. So bear with me.
    I've even checked the PKC Website and it doesn't exist. It was never minuted. Cut your losses and admit it was a mistake.

    February 2019
    Unite has written to all 32 councils to warn them against using the new power, as the workplace parking tax row dominated the run-up to Thursday’s final Budget vote.
    Every leader of Conservative groups in Scotland’s local authorities came out on Wednesday pledging not to introduce the charges, which could total more than Ł400 per workplace space.
    Last edited by Moulin Yarns; 19-08-2019 at 12:04 PM.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Very good Ron, but all Councils in England and Wales already have the ability to introduce the Workplace parking levy, Only Nottingham have done so. NO SCOTTISH Local Authority has done so, yet. Certainly not Perth and Kinross Council.

    PS, I didn't even need to open the link to know what it was.
    Just trying to give him a ladder to climb down.

    It was Perth after all. 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    The tories are still bleating on about the "SNP" car parking charges. Never mind that the power is devolved to local councils and the only council so far choosing to impliment the power are the tory/libdem coalition in Perth and Kinross.

    I really hope people there are clued up enough to see right through this, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
    I can't stop laughing at how the Scottish daily mail blames everything on the SNP when of course they control how much Scotland and Scottish councils get through the grant. Studies unsurprisingly show they give more to Tory councils. Not once died the sdmail blame the govt. Just utterly ridiculous. As for being ****bags gove six months ago said no deal would harm the farming industry so much they would struggle to recover. Now of course as Boris the backstabber has given him a position it's now not as bad as he thought. If I was to go over the lies, misinformation,propoganda etc I'd probably be six feet under. The latest doomsday scenario written by bumblers own staff is apparently fake news. So even his own party is calling it's own internal emails fake news. It's so unreal just how similar Johnson tactics are based on Steve bannons way of misinformation. Btw Bannon has already warned trump and Johnson that populism has a short shelf life and you do eventually actually have to achieve at least some of the things you promise. The quicker brexit is over with the public can see through these charlatans. Mays time in office will seem like an oasis of calm compared to cock up Boris. If only labour could get a decent leader we could keep these ****bags out of office for decades.
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    she's really quite a nasty creature this one....some will recognise her as the little innocent one from a question time episode a few months back, ******** tory mouthpiece and a nasty one at that, then again the tory party is a vile institution so no surprise, tories are a horrible breed

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/17...OX_czcm82vMPqs



    THE Tories have been forced to suspend a senior party member after she made a sick jibe about Nicola Sturgeon's miscarriage.
    In a horrific exchange on Twitter, Jane Lax, the party's treasurer in Moray, traded jokes about the SNP leader’s baby loss with anonymous internet trolls.
    Ironically, it kicked off on Tuesday evening when notorious Unionist account Agent P shared an interview in which Sturgeon detailed the abuse she receives online.
    “The GERS figures must be imminent,” Agent P declared.
    Replying, another anonymous account, Femme Sag ���� #2135 on the list #NOTMYFM, tweeted: “Has she mentions [sic] her fictional miscarriage yet?”
    Lax then replied: “Is that when she dropped a book?”


    look forward to the BBC and MSM reporting this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    she's really quite a nasty creature this one....some will recognise her as the little innocent one from a question time episode a few months back, ******** tory mouthpiece and a nasty one at that, then again the tory party is a vile institution so no surprise, tories are a horrible breed

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/17...OX_czcm82vMPqs



    THE Tories have been forced to suspend a senior party member after she made a sick jibe about Nicola Sturgeon's miscarriage.
    In a horrific exchange on Twitter, Jane Lax, the party's treasurer in Moray, traded jokes about the SNP leader’s baby loss with anonymous internet trolls.
    Ironically, it kicked off on Tuesday evening when notorious Unionist account Agent P shared an interview in which Sturgeon detailed the abuse she receives online.
    “The GERS figures must be imminent,” Agent P declared.
    Replying, another anonymous account, Femme Sag ���� #2135 on the list #NOTMYFM, tweeted: “Has she mentions [sic] her fictional miscarriage yet?”
    Lax then replied: “Is that when she dropped a book?”


    look forward to the BBC and MSM reporting this one

    Absolutely disgusting, you’ll be waiting a long time before you see the bbc run this story on their news program.

    United we stand here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    Absolutely disgusting, you’ll be waiting a long time before you see the bbc run this story on their news program.
    Far more likely that'll they'll bring her on to some political "news" programme to inform us all how she's been bullied by the wicked cybernats and the totalitarian regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    Far more likely that'll they'll bring her on to some political "news" programme to inform us all how she's been bullied by the wicked cybernats and the totalitarian regime.
    You’re probably right, I’ve seen quite a few of her tweets and she’s an absolute lunatic, I’m sure that’s what attracted the people who run question time to have her on as an ordinary member of the public and to make sure she was chosen to ask a question.

    United we stand here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    You’re probably right, I’ve seen quite a few of her tweets and she’s an absolute lunatic, I’m sure that’s what attracted the people who run question time to have her on as an ordinary member of the public and to make sure she was chosen to ask a question.
    I asked her a while back how somebody who has worked for an animal protection agengy could back a political party that likes to slaughter foxes in one of the most inhumane ways possible.

    Her response? "It's a price worth paying".

    An absolute lunatic as you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    I asked her a while back how somebody who has worked for an animal protection agengy could back a political party that likes to slaughter foxes in one of the most inhumane ways possible.

    Her response? "It's a price worth paying".

    An absolute lunatic as you say.
    Her Twitter account is full of stuff like that. You did well to get a response from her. She’s the lunatic fringe that’s also part of the establishment.

    United we stand here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    Absolutely disgusting, you’ll be waiting a long time before you see the bbc run this story on their news program.


    well, you're right, off to my napper and after a quick squint at the BBC news page, both UK and Scotland...not a thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    well, you're right, off to my napper and after a quick squint at the BBC news page, both UK and Scotland...not a thing
    Front page of the Record today.

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