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    In short Ojo is a greedy cock. Toys out the pram at S****horpe should have been a warning sign.
    PH said the deal was dead for Ojo. His agent then found him another team who has bid money for him. How’s that being greedy?


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    PH said the deal was dead for Ojo. His agent then found him another team who has bid money for him. How’s that being greedy?
    Can we move on?? Hibs have! 😴.

    Any more news on omeonga or any rumours for this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    In short Ojo is a greedy cock. Toys out the pram at S****horpe should have been a warning sign.
    Is he? Then so are any of our players who we signed that had another offer on table but we paid more so joined us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    In short Ojo is a greedy cock. Toys out the pram at S****horpe should have been a warning sign.
    I'm starting to worry that in trying too hard to build a team of professional robots we might lose that x factor (or swagger if you like) that such players bring.

    Would there be a place for a character like Stokes in Hecky's thinking? I doubt it but a character like Stokes made the difference in the Scottish cup final.

    I'm not trying to say that Ojo would have any sort of impact like Stokes. More point out that his appearing to be an ******** doesn't mean he couldn't have had a positive impact on our team. After all some of big winners in world football seem to be the biggest ********s going.

    I wonder who brings that arrogance - that sheer belief that they deserve to win - to our current squad. Nobody that played against Stirling that is for sure.

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    Lets wait until the league starts before judging the quality if the squad eh?
    Hold on a minute, when we were pissing all over European clubs last season, we had an unbalanced side and some players who were sheite/

    Now we are drawing with Stirling, losing to Arbroath, suddenly we need to wait until the league starts before judging things.

    I'm sure those who were criticising our woeful team last season will be along soon to explain things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Hold on a minute, when we were pissing all over European clubs last season, we had an unbalanced side and some players who were sheite/

    Now we are drawing with Stirling, losing to Arbroath, suddenly we need to wait until the league starts before judging things.

    I'm sure those who were criticising our woeful team last season will be along soon to explain things.
    My comment was in response to someone who already appeared to have made up their mind that this seasons squad was poorer than last’s. Whats your beef with that? The squads not even complete yet.

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    I'm starting to worry that in trying too hard to build a team of professional robots we might lose that x factor (or swagger if you like) that such players bring.

    Would there be a place for a character like Stokes in Hecky's thinking? I doubt it but a character like Stokes made the difference in the Scottish cup final.

    I'm not trying to say that Ojo would have any sort of impact like Stokes. More point out that his appearing to be an ******** doesn't mean he couldn't have had a positive impact on our team. After all some of big winners in world football seem to be the biggest ********s going.

    I wonder who brings that arrogance - that sheer belief that they deserve to win - to our current squad. Nobody that played against Stirling that is for sure.
    I know what you’re getting at.

    Scott Allan maybe? Kamberi at times?

    We need a Cummings type player & his over confident style

    A pantomime villain

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    PH said the deal was dead for Ojo. His agent then found him another team who has bid money for him. How’s that being greedy?
    No. Ojo agreed a deal with us, based on his mistaken or dishonest interpretation of his contract clause. He then went on strike once his contract clause was denied. Hibs offered his club money to ease things over. Ojo then got wind of another offer, and renaged on a deal which he very possibly lied about his current contractual situation to get.

    I'm not saying he's definately dishonest or two faced, but there are a few red flags going up.

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    Arsenal have reportedly bid £25m for Tierney. Baffled if Celtic reject that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500miles View Post
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    No. Ojo agreed a deal with us, based on his mistaken or dishonest interpretation of his contract clause. He then went on strike once his contract clause was denied. Hibs offered his club money to ease things over. Ojo then got wind of another offer, and renaged on a deal which he very possibly lied about his current contractual situation to get.

    I'm not saying he's definately dishonest or two faced, but there are a few red flags going up.
    PH said himself that Aberdeen offered S****horpe money first which we then matched.

    Seems like we were too slow off the mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibeesmad View Post
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    Arsenal have reportedly bid £25m for Tierney. Baffled if Celtic reject that.
    Theres no way you would reject that. It's also what we should have got for McGinn

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500miles View Post
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    No. Ojo agreed a deal with us, based on his mistaken or dishonest interpretation of his contract clause. He then went on strike once his contract clause was denied. Hibs offered his club money to ease things over. Ojo then got wind of another offer, and renaged on a deal which he very possibly lied about his current contractual situation to get.

    I'm not saying he's definately dishonest or two faced, but there are a few red flags going up.
    Biggest red flag is why we waited until another bid had been accepted before matching it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibeesmad View Post
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    Arsenal have reportedly bid £25m for Tierney. Baffled if Celtic reject that.
    Surely to christ they are accepting that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis Toboggan View Post
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    Theres no way you would reject that. It's also what we should have got for McGinn
    Agree that McGinn was worth far more than we received but Tierney's got 4 years on his contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis Toboggan View Post
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    Theres no way you would reject that. It's also what we should have got for McGinn
    McGinn was out of contract in a years time and could sign a pre contract in 6 months time. I think Tierney had something ridiculous like a 5 year contract at Celtic.

    The simple fact is also bigger clubs command bigger fees than smaller clubs , rightly or wrongly. Arsenal will look at the fact he's played with a reasonably big club and all the additional pressure that brings.

    Similarly if he does well at Arsenal he will command a much bigger fee than what Celtic will get. It's just the upward spiral of playing for a bigger club equals more money.

    Unfortunately for us Hibs will never in our history receive a transfer fee of £25 million , it's highly unlikely we will ever get half that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Hold on a minute, when we were pissing all over European clubs last season, we had an unbalanced side and some players who were sheite/

    Now we are drawing with Stirling, losing to Arbroath, suddenly we need to wait until the league starts before judging things.

    I'm sure those who were criticising our woeful team last season will be along soon to explain things.
    Are you going to also dismiss any and all concerns about the squad and repeat your mantra that quality only becomes available at the end of the window if we’re harking back to what was being said last summer?

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    PH said himself that Aberdeen offered S****horpe money first which we then matched.

    Seems like we were too slow off the mark
    Yet it was reported he has agreed terms with hibs first and was ready to tell Aberdeen no. Aberdeen have came in with more money and he's went there. Don't know why people are doing mental gymnastics about all this it's pretty obvious. Fair enough to him. Let's hope we can finally get a midfielder in who raises the current standards in midfield and is able to control/boss games who puts Aberdeen and players like Ojo in their place.

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    Here we go again!!! Journey men pro etc... give our new signings a chance!!!
    Q- what team did we sign Sir David Gray from?
    A- the rest is history!!
    Hibs again offered money (2nd time this window) made a good offer and sold the club to Ojo. He went another way, good luck but as the manager said he only wants players who wants us!!!
    Next target will be identified and hopefully they get their man.

    What about lee cattermole? Sunderland connection at the club freed from there, there is a DCM

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    No. Ojo agreed a deal with us, based on his mistaken or dishonest interpretation of his contract clause. He then went on strike once his contract clause was denied. Hibs offered his club money to ease things over. Ojo then got wind of another offer, and renaged on a deal which he very possibly lied about his current contractual situation to get.

    I'm not saying he's definately dishonest or two faced, but there are a few red flags going up.
    There's nothing dishonest about taking a better offer. Only a complete ****ing idiot would take the offer of less money

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingHibs View Post
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    So the PM board is a place were people gossip on posters they don't agree with then gang up on them on the public threads? Explains a lot. Waiting for a barrage now🙄
    As has been noted earlier - it doesnt.

    e.g. You got into some fairly heated debates regarding Rons shareholding etc on the MB and while there is a thread on the takeover on the PM board, your name is mentioned re some of the share numbers stuff - but you dont get a negative mention, never mind a barrage.

    As a general point, sometimes people retire to the PM board when the arguing gets too much on here - I understand that, and do it myself as it can get a bit much.

    What I dont understand (this isnt you, by the way) is people seeming to manufacture all sorts of arguments - I didnt bite, but sometimes people seem to be attempting to get reactions rather than having any reasoned debate - then coming back and crying about it if people suggest they are at it.

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    Hearing the players have been up to see Rod P complaining about the management

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    It was interesting that Heckingbottom said Aberdeen had a bid accepted last week for Ojo, we heard about it and matched them. Surely indicates we had moved on to other targets already. Hopefully see one or two come in shortly.

    Us, Aberdeen and Hearts all after James Morrison according to Keith Downie. Good player but not exactly the energy and power I was expecting.
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    Biggest red flag is why we waited until another bid had been accepted before matching it

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    Between our original agreement with the player & his contract dispute we changed owners & received a cash injection. By that time however Sheep had made a bid. Not sure how anyone at ER can be blamed in this case.

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    Between our original agreement with the player & his contract dispute we changed owners & received a cash injection. By that time however Sheep had made a bid. Not sure how anyone at ER can be blamed in this case.
    Yet the new owner/board/manager all say the budget for this year remains unchanged?

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    Arsenal have reportedly bid £25m for Tierney. Baffled if Celtic reject that.
    I hope other clubs in Scotland take note. Celtic refused a number of lower offers, waited patiently and Arsenal gone from apparently offering £15m to £25m.

    Of course the value is way above the what any other SPL player outwith the OF would go for but far too many chairman up here are ready to sell for peanuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by makaveli1875 View Post
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    There's nothing dishonest about taking a better offer. Only a complete ****ing idiot would take the offer of less money
    It's dishonest when you've already told us that you're happy with our offer, which he did before he was caught out with his contract.

    Then he refused to even train with S****horpe when it was found he couldn't leave on a technicality. It was poor form from Scunny imo, because it was such a minor technicality, and it forced him to take a severe wage cut after relegation, but he still decided to throw the toys out the pram and bump training. Hibs wait until the dispute is resolved. Then his club name their price when Aberdeen come calling, and we match it. He comes up the road, we offer the same terms we agreed to, and he decides that, actually, after already messing the club about regarding his contract, bhe wants to go haggle the pennies with Aberdeen. They can have him, and hopefully a sound shoeing from big Darren when he comes up against us.

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    If both marciano and Flo move on as reported we will be unrecognisable as a team. It is no wonder there is as of yet little chemistry in the team it will take time .
    The main thing is is any money coming in from these players should be spent on the the team.
    That could bring in some proven talent to make a immediate difference.
    I'm not keen on marciano leaving he is an exceptional keeper .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
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    It was interesting that Heckingbottom said Aberdeen had a bid accepted last week for Ojo, we heard about it and matched them. Surely indicates we had moved on to other targets already. Hopefully see one or two come in shortly.

    Us, Aberdeen and Hearts all after James Morrison according to Keith Downie. Good player but not exactly the energy and power I was expecting.
    Experienced and I’d imagine would still have something to offer up here. He was coming through the youth academy the same time Robbie Stockdale was at Middlesbrough so there is a connection of some sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neil7908 View Post
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    I hope other clubs in Scotland take note. Celtic refused a number of lower offers, waited patiently and Arsenal gone from apparently offering £15m to £25m.

    Of course the value is way above the what any other SPL player outwith the OF would go for but far too many chairmant up here are ready to sell for peanuts.
    He's got 4 years left on his current contract and on good wages. That strengthens Celtic's hand considerably and increases value far beyond any player outwith the OF.

    e.g. you can't pay someone say 2.5k pw and say he's a £15m player.

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    It's dishonest when you've already told us that you're happy with our offer, which he did before he was caught out with his contract.

    Then he refused to even train with S****horpe when it was found he couldn't leave on a technicality. It was poor form from Scunny imo, because it was such a minor technicality, and it forced him to take a severe wage cut after relegation, but he still decided to throw the toys out the pram and bump training. Hibs wait until the dispute is resolved. Then his club name their price when Aberdeen come calling, and we match it. He comes up the road, we offer the same terms we agreed to, and he decides that, actually, after already messing the club about regarding his contract, bhe wants to go haggle the pennies with Aberdeen. They can have him, and hopefully a sound shoeing from big Darren when he comes up against us.
    My point exactly

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