Summer 2019 transfer thread

[The_Horde]

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The real action started today and like it or not, Newell is being criticised for his poor performances, not just because of some unspecified, arbitrary reason.

And that doesn't mean he won't become amazing for us or that anyones written him off.. it means that in their opinion he hasn't been good so far and that's a perfectly understandable thing to be worried about.

[matty_f]

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That's all well and good but I haven't seen many call players rubbish. I've seen plenty say the Jury's out, they're unconvinced or they don't look interested.

Then people who see that as a negative are giving it "deary me, they're only just in the door give them time to gel"

Nobody said they won't do that, they've simple given an opinion on what they've seen so far. I bet every single one of them are absolutely buzzing for them to even have a class 10 minute spell in a game that gives them hope.

I should maybe have been clearer that I wasn’t using real quotes.

I get what you mean though, basically you should be able to have doubts about a player without anyone challenging or discussing that.

[The 90+2]

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People making judgements on players before the real action starts or before the first eleven have even played together and writing them off is a bit premature imo. I’ll reserve any judgement for a while yet. I don’t see what benefit there is in slagging players off when they’ve barely started. Newall already emerging as the new whipping boy.

Who was the old whipping boy?

[Since452]

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Who was the old whipping boy?

Whittaker

[The 90+2]

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Whittaker

So a player ultimately not good enough the second time around given a three year contract?

[calumhibee1]

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They've barely played six hours and they're *****. I despair sometimes.

I’ve only saw them at Carlisle and Dunfermline so far and I was half cut and late at Carlisle and also late at Dunfermline so I’ve not made up my mind as of yet.

However, it will generally take players a lot less than 6 hours to show something if they’re actually any good. Fans know enough about football that it doesn’t take that long to spot a good player. I can’t think of many players who have been ganting in their first few appearances like people are saying Newell has (I’m just taking folks word for that for the most part of course) who have turned it round.

[bingo70]

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Whittaker

His treatment really annoyed me today.

I would say he was possibly our best player today but to a lot of folk standing around me he was a source of amusement, ironic cheers and laughter whenever he did anything good.

He’s not as good as what he was but he’s nowhere near as bad as some people make out. He deserves more respect than he was getting from some idiots today.

Some of the folk giving him stick were probably late teens, struck me that they probably won’t even remember that he was a very good player for us in his first spell.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Can someone tell me how aberdeen can pay higher wages than us

Just 'cos

[random sub]

It is early days and hopefully the new boys will find their stride. What is perhaps worrying is the all eggs in lower league English players basket approach to a signing strategy.

Hopefully Ojo will be pish for the Dons and we will sign some quality for the defensive mid.

[Since452]

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His treatment really annoyed me today.

I would say he was possibly our best player today but to a lot of folk standing around me he was a source of amusement, ironic cheers and laughter whenever he did anything good.

He’s not as good as what he was but he’s nowhere near as bad as some people make out. He deserves more respect than he was getting from some idiots today.

Some of the folk giving him stick were probably late teens, struck me that they probably won’t even remember that he was a very good player for us in his first spell.

And a cup winning legend who made us a lot of money. Deserves a bit more respect imo

[B.H.F.C]

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His treatment really annoyed me today.

I would say he was possibly our best player today but to a lot of folk standing around me he was a source of amusement, ironic cheers and laughter whenever he did anything good.

He’s not as good as what he was but he’s nowhere near as bad as some people make out. He deserves more respect than he was getting from some idiots today.

Some of the folk giving him stick were probably late teens, struck me that they probably won’t even remember that he was a very good player for us in his first spell.

We’ve got greater problems than him, that’s for sure.

[MikeyS]

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His treatment really annoyed me today.

I would say he was possibly our best player today but to a lot of folk standing around me he was a source of amusement, ironic cheers and laughter whenever he did anything good.

He’s not as good as what he was but he’s nowhere near as bad as some people make out. He deserves more respect than he was getting from some idiots today.

Some of the folk giving him stick were probably late teens, struck me that they probably won’t even remember that he was a very good player for us in his first spell.

There is a lot of that going on at the moment and not just at games. Loads of wee digs on here too.

Folk should remember that he's not picking himself, ifbthey have an issue with it at least aim it at the coach.

[The_Horde]

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I should maybe have been clearer that I wasn’t using real quotes.

I get what you mean though, basically you should be able to have doubts about a player without anyone challenging or discussing that.

Nah what I'm saying is having doubts about a player is completely rational at this stage of the season and just because you do, doesn't mean you're writing them off entirely. Question that all you like but come up with better than "deary me, they're just in the door and you're writing them off"

I knew your quotes weren't real.

[Hibee Mac]

Have to agree with others so far Newell hasn't impressed, I'm not sure what he really brings to the team.

Early doors obviously so hopefully he improves, the least he could do is bust a gut for his first competitive game for Hibs and our first of the season...

[tamig]

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Who was the old whipping boy?

Stevenson, Whittaker, Milligan, Mallan - they’ve all had their fair share over the past couple of seasons.

[BlackSheep]

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Have to agree with others so far Newell hasn't impressed, I'm not sure what he really brings to the team.

Early doors obviously so hopefully he improves, the least he could do is bust a gut for his first competitive game for Hibs and our first of the season...

I can see Newell as being back up to Horgan on the left once we get up to speed.

[we are hibs]

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Stevenson, Whittaker, Milligan, Mallan - they’ve all had their fair share over the past couple of seasons.

You're right. None of them have ever put a foot wrong. They're all glorious players who we should appreciate and never say a bad word about. That wouldn't at all be head in sand stuff.

[matty_f]

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Nah what I'm saying is having doubts about a player is completely rational at this stage of the season and just because you do, doesn't mean you're writing them off entirely. Question that all you like but come up with better than "deary me, they're just in the door and you're writing them off"

I knew your quotes weren't real.

So is it just “deary me” that’s not allowed?

[Jones28]

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They've barely played six hours and they're *****. I despair sometimes.

TBF people can only say what they see, and the fact is that this was our first competitive game of the season and it didn’t look great.

[The 90+2]

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I can see Newell as being back up to Horgan on the left once we get up to speed.

That’s disappointing that one of our summer signings seems to be back up when we need players in to enhance the first team.

[The_Horde]

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So is it just “deary me” that’s not allowed?

It shouldn't be. Deary me brigade out in force.

[1620]

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That’s disappointing that one of our summer signings seems to be back up when we need players in to enhance the first team.

On todays performance he isn’t even worth a place as back up.
Shaw/Murray would put in in far more effort for the team than he did today.
I know it is early days for him with the Hibs but he will need to do an awful lot better than today to merit a starting place in the team.

[The_Horde]

Honestly though, an example I'll give is around this time last season in a European game. (Runavik I think)

I posted a thread about Mallan, highlighting that he hadn't stood out as much as McGinn, Mcgeouch or Allan did in their first few games and that I was having doubts about his general ability (goals aside).

I was greeted with the above and accusations of being a troll.

One poster in particular simply replied "wow". Followed by another post in which, I think, he was questioning my eyesight.

Around 4/5 months later and a majority of posters on this messageboard were saying a lot worse than I had about him and the poster mentioned above was absolutely scathing in his criticism of Mallan (on twitter by this point, having secured a bosman)

I was absolutely buzzing for Stevie to be brilliant and admittedly he didn't turn out too badly in the end (definitely with room for improvement) but I think by and large my comments are still true to this day.

And I still hope he'll be as good as either of those guys now.

[wookie70]

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His treatment really annoyed me today.

I would say he was possibly our best player today but to a lot of folk standing around me he was a source of amusement, ironic cheers and laughter whenever he did anything good.

He’s not as good as what he was but he’s nowhere near as bad as some people make out. He deserves more respect than he was getting from some idiots today.

Some of the folk giving him stick were probably late teens, struck me that they probably won’t even remember that he was a very good player for us in his first spell.

Thought Whitts was up with Horgan and Jackson for our best performer. He was nowhere near as bad as folk made out last year and is good enough as a utility squad player imo and possibly a started if fully fit

[Squirrel 1875]

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Honestly though, an example I'll give is around this time last season in a European game. (Runavik I think)

I posted a thread about Mallan, highlighting that he hadn't stood out as much as McGinn, Mcgeouch or Allan did in their first few games and that I was having doubts about his general ability (goals aside).

I was greeted with the above and accusations of being a troll.

Around 4/5 months later and a majority of posters on this messageboard were saying a lot worse than I had about him.

One poster in particular simply said "wow". Followed by another post I think questioning my eyesight.

A few months later (on Twitter by this point, having secured a free transfer) he was absolutely slating Mallan.

I was absolutely buzzing for Stevie to be brilliant, he didn't turn out too badly in the end (definitely with room for improvement) but I think by and large my comments are still true to this day.

And I still hope he'll be as good as either of those guys.

Funnily, I was being slated on this forum for having the audacity to criticize Heckingbottom, his tactics and his signings. Noticed a few of the posters, many of them private members who I have been told were having a good chat about me on the PM board, have changed their tune after today. Very interesting.

[truehibernian]

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I can see Newell as being back up to Horgan on the left once we get up to speed.

If he doesn't show anything in the next few games I see him being emptied - seriously unimpressed with Joe Newell. In play, body language, and effort. Looks like he's here on a holiday.

[B.H.F.C]

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If he doesn't show anything in the next few games I see him being emptied - seriously unimpressed with Joe Newell. In play, body language, and effort. Looks like he's here on a holiday.

That’s it. Not having done anything outstanding from a football perspective isn’t the end of the world. But he actually looks like he has absolutely no interest in being here at all.

[bingo70]

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If he doesn't show anything in the next few games I see him being emptied - seriously unimpressed with Joe Newell. In play, body language, and effort. Looks like he's here on a holiday.

The fans of his previous club said he was one of those players that is better coming off the bench.

I suspect if we’re to see the best of him he will start the season on the bench which might help take the heat off him for the time being as well.

[Billy Whizz]

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That’s it. Not having done anything outstanding from a football perspective isn’t the end of the world. But he actually looks like he has absolutely no interest in being here at all.

Completely the opposite of when I met him at the PH testimonial night
Said he was absolutely buzzing to be at Hibs.

[Hibs4185]

Dylan was Aberdeen’s first choice because he is tried and tested in the SPL. We know what we are going to get.

The signings so far are all from the championship and lower, and considering the comments so far it doesn’t seem that they are setting the world on fire. Ojo is is a similar standard to our signings, so for me this makes Dylan and absolute no brainier and I think PH needs to reconsider.

Even if Dylan has signed at Sunderland for another season, it sounded like previously he was open to come back to Scotland.

After today’s performance he sounds like the missing link