Summer 2019 transfer thread

**MacGruber** · 13-07-2019 08:25 AM

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The fact that Aberdeen can offer higher wages than Hibs is hardly new.

They have a much bigger revenue stream.

Others who have a bigger budget, are Celtic, Rangers and Hearts.

Generally speaking, players with no emotional attachment to Hibs or an attachment to Edinburgh, will sign for the team offering the most money.

Nature of the beast.

We move on and sign somebody those clubs are not interested in.

There is trurh in this. More so we are more often than not shopping in the same market. That's why SPL teams are often linked with being after fighting over the same players.

We more often than not lose out to these teams with bigger budgets, we more often than not finish below these teams, it goes hand in hand. If the practice is to sign players the others aren't interested in then more often than not it will be because they are not as good as the ones they have. Hence we generally end up worse than them.

You break the mould by increasing the budget to compete for the top end players in our pool. By investing more in youth and facilities to produce our own players or hoping we pick up gems in the lesser fancied players and do that better than others. Either way it all comes down to money. As always

**we are hibs** · 13-07-2019 08:26 AM

Don't take 2 million. Especially if it's not being reinvested in the squad.

***Heisenberg*** · 13-07-2019 08:27 AM

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Don't take 2 million. Especially if it's not being reinvested in the squad.

If we sold Flo for that amount I’m pretty certain we’d sign McNulty. Probably Omeonga as well.

**Since90+2** · 13-07-2019 08:28 AM

Have to say I don't really agree with this chat that if all Ojo cares about is money then we don't want him ect.

99% of football players from down south will have no emotional connection to Hibs so will in all likelihood go to where pays the highest wage. He's obviously a player Heckingbottom really likes and it will be a sore one if he leaves.

The sad reality is generally the better wage you pay the better player you get. Ojo probably doesn't really care if he plays at Hibs or Aberdeen but if he's as good as being made out then it's a loss IMO.

**B.H.F.C** · 13-07-2019 08:33 AM

If Kamberi applies himself properly there is a player worth a lot of money in there. Based on what he showed last year we’d get closer to £200k than £2m.

**~~Captain Trips~~** · 13-07-2019 08:35 AM

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Have to say I don't really agree with this chat that if all Ojo cares about is money then we don't want him ect.

99% of football players from down south will have no emotional connection to Hibs so will in all likelihood go to where pays the highest wage. He's obviously a player Heckingbottom really likes and it will be a sore one if he leaves.

The sad reality is generally the better wage you pay the better player you get. Ojo probably doesn't really care if he plays at Hibs or Aberdeen but if he's as good as being made out then it's a loss IMO.

Agreed, I bet we have plenty of players who were offered contracts when we bought them and joined us because we paid them more.

***hibeejeebies*** · 13-07-2019 08:36 AM

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Millipedigan.

This 😂

**Since452** · 13-07-2019 08:36 AM

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Flo wanted by four Championship clubs.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/....co/D47c7skTXp

Don’t understand how his old club can’t be entitled to a sell on? We took advantage of a contract clause and got him for £100k, surely no other add ons were included?

2m? Yes please

***J-C*** · 13-07-2019 08:37 AM

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"We're short in midfield,” he admitted. “Defensive midfield? We don't do defensive midfielders - you're midfield, you do everything.”

“I’m very close to having the squad I want. Central midfield is where we’re short. That’s it“

Interesting quotes from PH yesterday. Certainly hope we see more than a couple of central midfielders come in though. Definitely need another striker.

Basically just described John McGinn in a nutshell.

***bingo70*** · 13-07-2019 08:39 AM

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Basically just described John McGinn in a nutshell.

Omeonga as well.

***Scouse Hibee*** · 13-07-2019 08:40 AM

Brett our sponsorship manager going to Newcastle United

**~~The_Horde~~** · 13-07-2019 08:41 AM

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Omeonga as well.

Disagree. Ommy needs to work on taking the ball from defence.

**~~hibbyfraelibby~~** · 13-07-2019 08:41 AM

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Brett our sponsorship manager going to Newcastle United

We getting a fee? Is there a sell on clause?

***J-C*** · 13-07-2019 08:41 AM

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Omeonga as well.

And the reason our manager wants him back and also the reason a lot of fans took to him in his short time here.

**~~Captain Trips~~** · 13-07-2019 08:41 AM

Brentford got in 12m from a sale maybe time we got paid better money. John McGinn price just shows that was robbery.

The club will continue to function fine without the sale for £2m so tell them £4m.

Strikers are key here and we need to sign one not sell one and look for two.

Put it this way forget money do you want us to not have Flo and try to sign new players or keep him and only need 1 more.

**DC_Hibs** · 13-07-2019 08:45 AM

£2m rated - per the journalists view - is now the gospel fee we will get!!!
A journalist for a “rag” that most berate.
Slightly lower fee than we got for McGinn about right yeah?

We would be lucky to get half of that in reality for him which would be cut substantially if the story is correct about his old club getting a chunk.

A few months back most would have taken a quarter of that as his touch was rank and his attitude worse than mine.

***J-C*** · 13-07-2019 08:46 AM

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Brentford got in 12m from a sale maybe time we got paid better money. John McGinn price just shows that was robbery.

The club will continue to function fine without the sale for £2m so tell them £4m.

Strikers are key here and we need to sign one not sell one and look for two.

I like Flo and when he's in the mood he's a cracking player but I do still have a feeling that unless he's treated as our no.1 he goes a wee bit in the huff and looks disinterested like he did playing wide of a front 3 last season. I think Hecky likes team players who'll knock their pan in wherever on the pitch for the sake of the team, maybe Lennon wasn't too far off the mark re Flo but his handling of the situation left a lot to be desired, remember he fell out with his coach at Grasshopper's for not being given enough game time.

***Jones28*** · 13-07-2019 08:58 AM

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They do aye, contracts typically run until end of JUNE/Early July in UK and players are paid right up until then. Usually paid monthly as well, but we still quote figures in weekly wages which i’ve often thought was odd.

Cheers Leitherhibs!

I find it a bit strange too now you mention it.

***007*** · 13-07-2019 09:17 AM

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I think more money and European football might be more of a deciding factor in fairness.

Presumably he won't be eligible to play in the 2nd leg for them so it would be hilarious if they lose 1-0 and get knocked out.

***Brightside*** · 13-07-2019 09:18 AM

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Brett our sponsorship manager going to Newcastle United

The whole team has been poor for a few years now.

**The Leith Dutch** · 13-07-2019 09:26 AM

The problem with £2m for Flo is that it's another hole in the team.
I suspect other posters on here are right and we could have made a larger offer to Ojo but chose not to.

Which brings me to my point - the £2m for Flo may be a great bit of business but I doubt it's of any realistic
use in terms of acquiring players.

I reckon we can pay the fee for any player whose wages we can afford and we're sensibly operating a wages cap.
So at this point of the season I'd rather have Flo than £2m in the bank even though £2m would be an amazing amount given his trials last season.

***Ozyhibby*** · 13-07-2019 09:27 AM

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Brett our sponsorship manager going to Newcastle United

No idea who he is but can only be a good thing given the lack of commercial income we are bringing in.

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**04Sauzee** · 13-07-2019 09:29 AM

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Brett our sponsorship manager going to Newcastle United

A very nice guy as well, was he at Sunderland before he came to Hibs?

***Ozyhibby*** · 13-07-2019 09:29 AM

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The problem with £2m for Flo is that it's another hole in the team.
I suspect other posters on here are right and we could have made a larger offer to Ojo but chose not to.

Which brings me to my point - the £2m for Flo may be a great bit of business but I doubt it's of any realistic
use in terms of acquiring players.

I reckon we can pay the fee for any player whose wages we can afford and we're sensibly operating a wages cap.
So at this point of the season I'd rather have Flo than £2m in the bank even though £2m would be an amazing amount given his trials last season.

That’s it. I don’t understand why people want us to get rid of our players. The money won’t be spent on the squad anyway.

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***neil7908*** · 13-07-2019 09:30 AM

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Brentford got in 12m from a sale maybe time we got paid better money. John McGinn price just shows that was robbery.

The club will continue to function fine without the sale for £2m so tell them £4m.

Strikers are key here and we need to sign one not sell one and look for two.

Put it this way forget money do you want us to not have Flo and try to sign new players or keep him and only need 1 more.

I agree with this. What are we going to do with £2m? Sign McNulty probably but we'd be overpaying based on our own valuation and I'm not sure he's a better player than Flo.

Scottish teams get taken for a ride time and again on transfer fees. He's a young guy with time left on his contract and we have no pressure to sell. If they really want him it needs to be a eye catching offer.

**The Leith Dutch** · 13-07-2019 09:30 AM

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Brentford got in 12m from a sale maybe time we got paid better money. John McGinn price just shows that was robbery.

The club will continue to function fine without the sale for £2m so tell them £4m.

Strikers are key here and we need to sign one not sell one and look for two.

Put it this way forget money do you want us to not have Flo and try to sign new players or keep him and only need 1 more.

100%

£2m is of no real use to us in terms of the playing squad for the upcoming season.

Given how Flo has started this season and adding in the fact that Doidge is an unknown and Shaw is still raw I wouldn't want to be looking for what may be our first choice striker plus the central midfield we're still missing in mid July.

***bingo70*** · 13-07-2019 09:34 AM

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That’s it. I don’t understand why people want us to get rid of our players. The money won’t be spent on the squad anyway.

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I asked about this before, it’s probably more difficult than it sounds to spend an unexpected windfall of money that you can’t budget for receiving again.

The answer I got from one of those numbers folk is that it will be accounted for and included in the budget for the next 3 years. Essentially, it will improve the playing budget, but not in an exciting way that’ll be obvious to the general public.

That’s why I would rather we spent money like that on the infrastructure to improve the players we bring through.

We are at the other end of the football spectrum but essentially I’d rather we copied Ajax model than Man City’s.

**04Sauzee** · 13-07-2019 09:36 AM

I have only seen Flo once this season and that was against Dunfermline. In that short period of time he did look a different player and looked bigger and fitter. If that's the Flo we are going to have then I'd keep him.
The management team will know if he looks sharper than last season.
If we lose him now we'd be looking at trying to get 2 forwards in

**Just Jimmy** · 13-07-2019 09:38 AM

I have no issues with players weighing up offers and picking the best one for them at that time.

I do have issues with anyone, agreeing a deal then when it takes their fancy reneging on that or simply playing it off to get more money somewhere else.

trouble at one club is usually trouble at another too and when he had a decent season and the old firm came knocking we wanted a Mcginn, not what that lad did with scunny.

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