Summer 2019 transfer thread

[MWHIBBIES]

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I don’t believe Horgan has done enough to warrant an extension at this stage.

I know he had a good record last year but there’s more to come IMO.

He's done enough that losing him for cheap would be really crap.

[04Sauzee]

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He's done enough that losing him for cheap would be really crap.

Exactly if he has a good season then next season he's entering his last season at Easter Road so we'd have to be looking at extending his contract and if he doesn't we have to cash in or risk losing him for nothing

[Allant1981]

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Tony Caig played for Newcastle after leaving us. Probably the most shocking development in football history.

He didnt play any games for newcastle

[brog]

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Add Bobby Johnstone, Gordon Smith, Joe Baker, John McNamee, Colin Stein, Peter Marinello, Peter Cormack, John Brownlie, Thomson Allan, Craig Paterson, Andy Goram, Pat McGinley, Kevin Thomson
Even Pat Stanton

All achieved honours in the game after leaving us

I think the original point was about players who were released by us. Gordon Smith, who then did same after Hearts, & Thomson Allan possibly fit that bill as does Jack Reilly. There's not many though & these 3 examples were 50 years or more ago. Likes of Strachan don't count as they were never on a pro contract.

[SMAXXA]

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Exactly if he has a good season then next season he's entering his last season at Easter Road so we'd have to be looking at extending his contract and if he doesn't we have to cash in or risk losing him for nothing

Exactly my point originally if we are giving players joining the club 3 year deals it makes no sense to have one of our better players on a shorter one who I think will continue to get better

[Ozyhibby]

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It can be a great place to cut your teeth. I don't really subscribe to the need of being booted by older players like the old days etc but I think for a Defender and Goalkeeper it can be really beneficial playing against the more experienced guys who have maybe lost their legs. Porteous could keep up with someone like David Goodwillie physically but his experience of finding space and how to track his movement would be the one that would educate him.

It’s not really a case of being booted by older players. It’s about playing against better players. League 2 is a higher standard than u20’s. Most of league 2 are former u20’s players who have got better but not enough to go full time.
League 2 teams have been smashing the u20’s teams in the challenge cup.


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[badabing67]

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Add Bobby Johnstone, Gordon Smith, Joe Baker, John McNamee, Colin Stein, Peter Marinello, Peter Cormack, John Brownlie, Thomson Allan, Craig Paterson, Andy Goram, Pat McGinley, Kevin Thomson
Even Pat Stanton

All achieved honours in the game after leaving us

Don't forget Scottie Broon, John Collins. Whitty even played in a EUFA cup final

[CockneyRebel]

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I don’t believe Horgan has done enough to warrant an extension at this stage.

I know he had a good record last year but there’s more to come IMO.

IMO that sentence seems to explain exactly why the poster suggested a contract extension.

[3pm]

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[/B]IMO that sentence seems to explain exactly why the poster suggested a contract extension.

All opinions but unless he was on a ridiculously cheap wage, like Boyle appeared to be when he was awarded a contract extension, then I don’t think he warrants a new deal at this time.

[Solonleith1]

I'm excited to see horgans development under heckingbottom. He was a different player than under Lennon. Cant help but feel Lennon stifled his development a bit. He was a key player second half of last season. If his form is the same start of this season definitely worth another deal. Losing him on the cheap would be a blow.

[hfc rd]

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I'm excited to see horgans development under heckingbottom. He was a different player than under Lennon. Cant help but feel Lennon stifled his development a bit. He was a key player second half of last season. If his form is the same start of this season definitely worth another deal. Losing him on the cheap would be a blow.

100% this. He’s an excellent player and one that I hope we tie down to a new deal.

He was by far our best player yesterday against Dunfermline. Every time he had the ball, you knew something was going to happen.

[KeithTheHibby]

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He's done enough that losing him for cheap would be really crap.

I would like to see him playing past the 70 minute mark. Too many times last season he was hanging out his arse by that stage.
I am not convinced he was fit enough to last 90 minutes.
With the money we invested he should be in the first 11 every week, not coming off the bench as an impact player.
Big season for him so as far as extending his contract goes I don't think this warrants discussion for at least another 6 months.

[Tug Wilson]

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I'm not worried right now as we've still got time in the window but you've nailed the two things that are worrying me right now - midfield and balance.
I think that last window we signed good players but lacked an obvious formation and a balanced team.

For a sizeable chunk of games next season I think we should be looking to play two proper Centre midfielders who are there to boss the midfield and give us a platform to play from.
I don't think either of those players are at the club right now. Slivka with improved consistency maybe. Mallan I feel we're trying to make him something he's not.

At the moment Allan is the only nailed on starter in a nailed on position forward of the defence.
Boyle and Horgan on form merit a place but other formational considerations may change where (or possibly even if) they play.

Like I said - I'm not worried but I think right now we're definitely one and possibly two away from the players who are nailed on starters in midfield.

Totally agree.

I think that the fact that Ryan Moon is on trial shows that Heckingbottom knows that we need at least one more striker. Whether this is Moon and whether he would be as well as McNulty or instead of remains to be seen.

Also the offer to Ojo shows that that central midfield role has been identified as needing filled. I felt that Ojo sounded perfect for the role but if that deal is dead then I fully expect us to still be in the market for a player for the role. I would also think that this is over and above if Omeonga returns.

With the English window for Premiership and Championship players closing on 8 August then there maybe some better players come on to our radar after this date. For instance if McNulty has not signed for a Championship club by that date then I would expect us to be able to get him rather than a League One club. There will be a few others in similar situations.

We still have the best part of 2 months of our window to go. There is definitely still work to do on the squad but I think that it is all well in hand.

[J-C]

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I'm excited to see horgans development under heckingbottom. He was a different player than under Lennon. Cant help but feel Lennon stifled his development a bit. He was a key player second half of last season. If his form is the same start of this season definitely worth another deal. Losing him on the cheap would be a blow.

Lennon tried to turn him into an attacking mid behind the strikers due to not having anyone else to play there, he's a wide attacking player better off the left but can play right, keep players in their natural positions and it's amazing how much better the team can be.

[we are hibs]

Horgan is 26. How much more can he develop as a winger? He must be at or reaching his peak by that age

[Chefki Kuqi]

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Horgan is 26. How much more can he develop as a winger? He must be at or reaching his peak by that age

Good thing he’s already a good winger.

[The 90+2]

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He didnt play any games for newcastle

Played in friendlies and sat on the bench in the EPL.

[SMAXXA]

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Horgan is 26. How much more can he develop as a winger? He must be at or reaching his peak by that age

Again that’s the point he’s coming into his prime and if he has a brilliant season he will no doubt have lots of suitors. Anyway no real issue he has 2 years so let’s hope he blows away the opposition this season and will no doubt get that new deal

[The_Horde]

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Lennon tried to turn him into an attacking mid behind the strikers due to not having anyone else to play there, he's a wide attacking player better off the left but can play right, keep players in their natural positions and it's amazing how much better the team can be.

Actually thought Lennon was putting him there to give us some energy. Was working when we had Boyle and Agyepong fit at the start of the season!

[CockneyRebel]

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I would like to see him playing past the 70 minute mark. Too many times last season he was hanging out his arse by that stage.
I am not convinced he was fit enough to last 90 minutes.
With the money we invested he should be in the first 11 every week, not coming off the bench as an impact player.
Big season for him so as far as extending his contract goes I don't think this warrants discussion for at least another 6 months.

Bit of a catch 22. If he has a really good first 6 months his agent would probably be looking for much more than we could get him for just now. His fitness levels at present maybe his best, who knows. We will have to trust the manager on this one.

[Solonleith1]

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Horgan is 26. How much more can he develop as a winger? He must be at or reaching his peak by that age

I hear what you're saying. I suppose I see it more in respect of his development as a part of this squad rather than relating to physical or technical ability. I believe hes got enough of that in spades regardless and in the right system and as others have pointed out, as an out and out winger he is going to be really important for us.

[04Sauzee]

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Horgan is 26. How much more can he develop as a winger? He must be at or reaching his peak by that age

Jamie Vardy joined Leciester at 25 and im pretty sure he developed quite a bit in his later years

[madhatter]

any rumours? I assume not because this thread has descended into debates about entirely different things again...

Think this coming week is important, I think we will see players leaving as well.

[mjhibby]

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Exactly my point originally if we are giving players joining the club 3 year deals it makes no sense to have one of our better players on a shorter one who I think will continue to get better

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Jamie Vardy joined Leciester at 25 and im pretty sure he developed quite a bit in his later years

Certainly did. It's more finding a club and style that's suits him. He's showed glimpses of his talent like at the PBS where he was sublime. With a strong midfield beside him he can really terrorise defences. Definitely need to be keeping him. This will be the best period of his career imho.

[Billy Whizz]

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any rumours? I assume not because this thread has descended into debates about entirely different things again...

Think this coming week is important, I think we will see players leaving as well.

Who do you think will be leaving?

[BILLYHIBS]

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I don’t believe Horgan has done enough to warrant an extension at this stage.

I know he had a good record last year but there’s more to come IMO.

Dunno, I know at least three hibbies that have his goal celebration at Tiny at the HIBS end as wallpaper on their mobiles 😁

[Heisenberg]

Tommy Block gone on loan to Queens Park.

[madhatter]

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Who do you think will be leaving?

Wouldn’t be surprised if Marciano and Slivka left, for different reasons. Shaw going out on loan wouldn’t be a surprise either. He contributes to games which is good but his composure and footwork are sorely lacking and a loan would help him (regular 1st team football). The ball going through his legs yesterday was something else!

I’d like to see Whittaker leave. He’s contributed little since his return. Although if his fitness is better and he has regained a bit of speed then he is a decent squad player to have.

Ben Stirling, Josh Campbell and Gullan should be in and around first team this year.

[MWHIBBIES]

Nothing to suggest any players are leaving, it's all just guesswork. Marciano is a key player with 2 years on his deal, won't be going anywhere overnight, would cost a decent fee.

[SMAXXA]

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Nothing to suggest any players are leaving, it's all just guesswork. Marciano is a key player with 2 years on his deal, won't be going anywhere overnight, would cost a decent fee.

Would expect we would be taking 7 figures it id hope we wold