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    Feel for Slivka because his trend always seems to be:

    Starts developing some form > gets injured > comes back and looks hopeless > drops out of team

    He is certainly a player with some talent but unless he can reliable play every week then he'll struggle to become a regular starter anywhere.

    He's a player that gets me thinking "what a shame". Easily a good squad player at the very least.


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    Slivka has ability and looks elegant at times but doesn’t really influence a game positively or negatively IMO. He can’t control the tempo of a game the way McGeough can, doesn’t have the energy or drive of McGinn and doesn’t have the goals and creativity of Allan. He has elements of all those players but a jack of all trades master of none for me.

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    Slivka has ability and looks elegant at times but doesn’t really influence a game positively or negatively IMO. He can’t control the tempo of a game the way McGeough can, doesn’t have the energy or drive of McGinn and doesn’t have the goals and creativity of Allan. He has elements of all those players but a jack of all trades master of none for me.
    Cant argue with that. At times it looks like we are going to see a really good player but I think he probably lacks a bit of confidence . He's just not kicked on like he should have. Possibly down to Hibs doing well in his first season and his failure to break into the team. It must be tough going to another country to ply your trade but fail to prosper.

    I still think he offers more in open play than Mallan but I dont think he has offered enough to merit a first team place and Mallan contributes in other ways.

    I think to push up the league Hibs are going to need two other starting central midfielders to complement Allan. McGeouch and Omeonga would do me.

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    Cant argue with that. At times it looks like we are going to see a really good player but I think he probably lacks a bit of confidence . He's just not kicked on like he should have. Possibly down to Hibs doing well in his first season and his failure to break into the team. It must be tough going to another country to ply your trade but fail to prosper.

    I still think he offers more in open play than Mallan but I dont think he has offered enough to merit a first team place and Mallan contributes in other ways.

    I think to push up the league Hibs are going to need two other starting central midfielders to complement Allan. McGeouch and Omeonga would do me.

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    Exactly but the way some would go on you would think we dont need anymore than the starting 11 players at the club, we need a squad and slivka is more than good enough to be part of that
    Spot on. Roll back 6 or so years ago and Stevenson wasn’t good enough - and you all know who you are - for the Hibs squad, but now he’s accepted as pretty much god like.

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    I think he’s nowhere near as good as Mallan in open play.


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    Slivka's better on the ball under pressure than Mallan.

    Mallan is outstanding when given time and space to play, miles better than Slivka will ever be. He can be pressed out of games too easily, although that may improve with a bit of help from quicker players with better movement on his side.

    It would probably be horses for courses out of the pair of them for me, if it came down to it.

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    Slivka is clearly just forgettable. He had a long string of games where the consensus was pretty much that he had been one of our best players, yet one 'meh' game and we revert to whipping out the clichés about him "not grabbing the game by the scruff of the neck" or "putting his stamp on the game".
    The manager seemed to follow that consensus though. After Slivka had the sending off at St Johnstone he struggled to get back in the team. I think in his last few starts he was subbed around the hour mark. Probably because he wasn’t impacting the game enough.

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    Gravenberch on trial at St Johnstone

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    Exactly but the way some would go on you would think we dont need anymore than the starting 11 players at the club, we need a squad and slivka is more than good enough to be part of that
    That depends how you look at the squad. If your looking at your squad players to have the starting players looking over their shoulder and knowing there’s good competition for places then I doubt many of our starting midfielders over Slivkas time here have thought to themselves “I need to perform every week with Slivka breathing down my neck”. If that’s the case then he’s probably not good enough to be a squad player at Hibs.

    If you’re looking for guys who can be dropped in when injuries and suspensions come up and just kind of get through games without having a howler then yeah, he’s fine. I’d rather we had someone who could genuinely push the starting players though.

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    Gravenberch on trial at St Johnstone
    Played last night, St J fans on pie and bovril reckon he was very good although was playing as a centre half

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    Gravenberch on trial at St Johnstone
    Ah - was hoping we would have been in for him. I know you can't take anything from a youtube video but he looked the part - football wise and size wise

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    What is needed most of all is someone to run the game.We had nobody last season(perhaps a Milligan 2/3 years younger would have done it).Perhaps Allan combined with a less talented stronger player.

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    Slivka has ability and looks elegant at times but doesn’t really influence a game positively or negatively IMO. He can’t control the tempo of a game the way McGeough can, doesn’t have the energy or drive of McGinn and doesn’t have the goals and creativity of Allan. He has elements of all those players but a jack of all trades master of none for me.

    I share the same view as yourself regarding Slivka. Haven’t a clue what his best role in midfield really is.

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    That depends how you look at the squad. If your looking at your squad players to have the starting players looking over their shoulder and knowing there’s good competition for places then I doubt many of our starting midfielders over Slivkas time here have thought to themselves “I need to perform every week with Slivka breathing down my neck”. If that’s the case then he’s probably not good enough to be a squad player at Hibs.

    If you’re looking for guys who can be dropped in when injuries and suspensions come up and just kind of get through games without having a howler then yeah, he’s fine. I’d rather we had someone who could genuinely push the starting players though.
    Except he is good enough as he has been in the squad consistently,you dont rate him clearly, the previous manager has and if he doesn't move on and is in the squad most weeks then the current coaching team also think he has something to offer

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Modfather View Post
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    Slivka has ability and looks elegant at times but doesn’t really influence a game positively or negatively IMO. He can’t control the tempo of a game the way McGeough can, doesn’t have the energy or drive of McGinn and doesn’t have the goals and creativity of Allan. He has elements of all those players but a jack of all trades master of none for me.
    A good summery of Slivka. IMO we will now be attracting a better standard of player with more funds being available, If Slivka moves on i'll wish him all the best and if he stays your assessment is why he'll find himself out the team and used as a replacement when needed, to fill in for injuries and suspensions.

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    Gravenberch on trial at St Johnstone
    Is Gravenberch a verb or a proper noun?

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    What Slivka has that imo no other central midfielders do in our current team is the ability to get in the box and get on the end of chances.

    In in ideal world he would play as a number 10, if he did that for a season he would chip in with quite a few goals and assists imo.

    Is he good enough to play there for us every week with where he want to go? I’m not convinced.

    I do think he is a useful option to have however, he can glide past people, play a nice pass and offers a bit of energy. It’s rare you see someone tackling him when he attempts to go past them imo, he manipulates his body well and is deceptively quick when dribbling.

    I would keep him as a squad player as you can trust him to do a job.

  19. #4878
    Slivka going into the last year of his 3 year contract.
    Has played 65 games for Hibs in 2 seasons and has 33 full caps for Lithuania which at just turned 24 is very impressive.

    Get Del Ron Ron Ron on the blower to Reading to do a swap for McNulty if Reading can come to an agreement with him over the remaining 3 years of his contract.
    3 years at lets say £10k per week is £1.5 million. McNulty happy to accept £750k. Nah, not happening.

    Only chance of McNulty coming to Hibs is another loan deal or
    Hibs pay Reading a £250k transfer fee, Reading give it to McNulty who accepts it in lieu of the rest of his contract and Hibs give him a £50k signing on fee and £3k per week 3 year contract. McNulty misses out on £750k over the next 3 years to play for Hibs. Nah no happenin'. McNulty in the boxseat. Reading screwed unless someone else will take over the contract which means another Championship team or a wealthy 3rd tier team.
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    I want McNulty back but I also feel like we could do with a forward that has a bit of trickery and skill that could take on and beat a defender.

    Kamberi showed he could do it in his first season but not at all last.

    I wouldn’t fancy Doidge, Flo or McNulty in 1 vs 1s or to skin a defender.

    Understand we will likely play one up top so we might not be looking for one but it’s a useful option to have imo, maybe Moon could be that option?

    Horgan, Boyle, Allan and Newell could all take a player on in the final third but I think from the bench we could do with that type of player I mentioned, especially if were chasing teams.

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    People will defend Slivka right up until the day Heckingbottom bins him, and then say it’s a good decision, and it’s been clear he wasn’t cutting it.
    It was the same with Milligan last season. And Oxley before that.


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  22. #4881
    Slivka is really slow on the ball at times. And he sometimes dithers at the edge of the box. If he was as good as some make out he would be a regular starter though. But he isn't and I honestly can't see him fitting into a midfield pressing high.

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    Article in EEN this morning

    Hibs head coach Paul Heckingbottom has admitted American multi-millionaire businessman Ron Gordon’s buyout of the Easter Road club won’t mean he’ll be allowed to plunge head-long into the transfer market.


    In ending Sir Tom Farmer’s 28-year-long ownership of Hibs, Gordon has made “a seven-figure” cash injection in a deal which also leaves the club debt-free six years ahead of plan.

    But Heckingbottom, who described the timing of Gordon’s take over as “excellent”, insisted it won’t see him embark on a spending splurge to follow the arrival of six signings so far this summer.

    “Nothing is going to change in that respect,” he said. “We’ve been told we’re working to a budget we were working to. The investment has come to clear debts, for the infrastructure and the academy and we have been assured the plan is not going to change.

    “What would be the point in signing players to replace the players we have just signed. We haven’t played a game, we can’t be doing that. It’s about improving what the club do really well. There will be significant improvements throughout the club, but at the minute the playing side of it is remaining exactly the same strategy.”

    Heckingbottom revealed he’d been in the dark as much as anyone else regarding Gordon’s intentions until he was told just 24 hours before the public announcement was made.

    He said: “I was excited anyway before I heard the news like everyone else, excited about the new season, a big turnover of players, trying to get players in to improve us, which is still ongoing. And then, like everyone else, excited about the news.

    “The timing is excellent. I spoke to the new owner and his family on Tuesday and told him it couldn’t be better and that’s what he said he’d pushed for, he wanted to get it done before the end of June, before the new season. So I don’t think the timing could be any better.”

    After completing the formalities and the subsequent round of media interviews, Gordon accompanied Sir Tom to the club’s East Mains training centre where, according to Heckingbottom, he cut an impressive figure.

    He said: “I really enjoyed the day. Sir Tom came in. We hadn’t spoken face-to-face before so it was good to sit down and have a chat with him and Rod. It was a case of out with the old and in with the new but it was nice that everyone was there together.

    “They’ve been looking after the club really well and I think everyone can take great comfort. The new owner has had to satisfy a lot of people, the owners, the board and satisfy them with his intentions and probably his plans for the club. Everyone wants the best and he’s had to impress a lot of people.

    “He was at East Mains with his family, his wife and son and his son’s girlfriend so we wandered about, met a few players. Some had gone, but it was really informal and, I felt, a nice touch.

    “There was no entourage, just a humble down-to-earth man walking about meeting people, greeting people. I thought it helped a hell of a lot. Change can be worrying for lots of people but I think the way he took time out of his day to come down and speak to people and the manner in which he did was impressive and for me it fits in with what we think the club is all about.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch View Post
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    Article in EEN this morning

    Hibs head coach Paul Heckingbottom has admitted American multi-millionaire businessman Ron Gordon’s buyout of the Easter Road club won’t mean he’ll be allowed to plunge head-long into the transfer market.


    In ending Sir Tom Farmer’s 28-year-long ownership of Hibs, Gordon has made “a seven-figure” cash injection in a deal which also leaves the club debt-free six years ahead of plan.

    But Heckingbottom, who described the timing of Gordon’s take over as “excellent”, insisted it won’t see him embark on a spending splurge to follow the arrival of six signings so far this summer.

    “Nothing is going to change in that respect,” he said. “We’ve been told we’re working to a budget we were working to. The investment has come to clear debts, for the infrastructure and the academy and we have been assured the plan is not going to change.

    “What would be the point in signing players to replace the players we have just signed. We haven’t played a game, we can’t be doing that. It’s about improving what the club do really well. There will be significant improvements throughout the club, but at the minute the playing side of it is remaining exactly the same strategy.”

    Heckingbottom revealed he’d been in the dark as much as anyone else regarding Gordon’s intentions until he was told just 24 hours before the public announcement was made.

    He said: “I was excited anyway before I heard the news like everyone else, excited about the new season, a big turnover of players, trying to get players in to improve us, which is still ongoing. And then, like everyone else, excited about the news.

    “The timing is excellent. I spoke to the new owner and his family on Tuesday and told him it couldn’t be better and that’s what he said he’d pushed for, he wanted to get it done before the end of June, before the new season. So I don’t think the timing could be any better.”

    After completing the formalities and the subsequent round of media interviews, Gordon accompanied Sir Tom to the club’s East Mains training centre where, according to Heckingbottom, he cut an impressive figure.

    He said: “I really enjoyed the day. Sir Tom came in. We hadn’t spoken face-to-face before so it was good to sit down and have a chat with him and Rod. It was a case of out with the old and in with the new but it was nice that everyone was there together.

    “They’ve been looking after the club really well and I think everyone can take great comfort. The new owner has had to satisfy a lot of people, the owners, the board and satisfy them with his intentions and probably his plans for the club. Everyone wants the best and he’s had to impress a lot of people.

    “He was at East Mains with his family, his wife and son and his son’s girlfriend so we wandered about, met a few players. Some had gone, but it was really informal and, I felt, a nice touch.

    “There was no entourage, just a humble down-to-earth man walking about meeting people, greeting people. I thought it helped a hell of a lot. Change can be worrying for lots of people but I think the way he took time out of his day to come down and speak to people and the manner in which he did was impressive and for me it fits in with what we think the club is all about.”
    Sack the board.

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    Could well all be true. But doubt Hecky is going to come out and say that we're going to splash the cash on some signings.

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    Could well all be true. But doubt Hecky is going to come out and say that we're going to splash the cash on some signings.
    Absolutely. He is hardly going to turn round to the press and say "Yep, we are utterly minted" whilst he is undertaking transfer negotiations. We are now a richer club than we were beforehand, and that is only set to improve. I don't think it'll mean us signing Mbappe/Neymar and it won't be an overnight change, but in the short-medium term I suspect, following this window, we will at least be on a par with Aberdeen in the transfer market.

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    Absolutely. He is hardly going to turn round to the press and say "Yep, we are utterly minted" whilst he is undertaking transfer negotiations. We are now a richer club than we were beforehand, and that is only set to improve. I don't think it'll mean us signing Mbappe/Neymar and it won't be an overnight change, but in the short-medium term I suspect, following this window, we will at least be on a par with Aberdeen in the transfer market.
    You literally told Facebook that you had got Mbappe on the back of your new top

    You're a charlatan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souter96Mac View Post
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    Could well all be true. But doubt Hecky is going to come out and say that we're going to splash the cash on some signings.
    If there is going to be a change in transfer budget it doesn’t make sense to change strategy mid way through a transfer window when the majority of our business has already been done.

    It’d be nice if a wee bit extra cash allowed us to do a deal for the boy at S****horpe as he’s obviously a player we wanted but couldn’t previously afford. Obviously that depends on how much they want for him but if it’s just a nominal sum of say up to £100k it’d be a good show of intent if we were able to get a deal done for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souter96Mac View Post
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    Could well all be true. But doubt Hecky is going to come out and say that we're going to splash the cash on some signings.
    Yep. I wonder if we've been negotiating with some clubs about players and they've upped the ante since we announced new owners.

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    Wouldn't bother breaking the bank for McNulty unless we planned on moving on Kamberi. If this Moon boy half impresses and his wage is a fraction of what we'd spend on McNulty then I'd rather we wen't down that route as we have 3 strikers and likely to start with 1.

    Slivka I would keep as a squad player if we don't have many targets lined up. But I know my thoughts on him at the moment are that he's probably not good enough to carry the club forward but could do a job as a squad player should we sign well in that department. Probably need at least 2 bodies in midfield still.

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    Wouldn't bother breaking the bank for McNulty unless we planned on moving on Kamberi. If this Moon boy half impresses and his wage is a fraction of what we'd spend on McNulty then I'd rather we wen't down that route as we have 3 strikers and likely to start with 1.

    Slivka I would keep as a squad player if we don't have many targets lined up. But I know my thoughts on him at the moment are that he's probably not good enough to carry the club forward but could do a job as a squad player should we sign well in that department. Probably need at least 2 bodies in midfield still.
    I'd rather a new striker totally impresses!

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