Summer 2019 transfer thread

[The 90+2]

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Absolutely. Mallan is seen as our playmaker now. McGeouch but further forward. PH changed Mallans role into more of a number 8 when he came in. What we need is the attributes SJM brought albeit unlikely to be at the level he reached. I'm a bit gutted about Ojo tbh. I've seen him play for S****horpe before and he'd be ideal.

Yeah I’m with you mate.

[Hermit Crab]

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Will be gutting to see McGeough playing for that lot. Hope it doesn’t happen.

I wouldn't worry about, he'll be injured all the time.

[Greenworld]

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Surely that could be an argument used against Messi also?

Baffling comment that can you expand on what you mean?

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[CapitalGreen]

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Baffling comment that can you expand on what you mean?

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Maybe re-read the thread, it’s a fairly straightforward point he’s made.

[Robbo6-2]

Mcgeough was an another one who thot the grass was greener.

A regular in front of 18k fans, Scottish Internationalist, decent wages and a team competing at the top end of league. What more did he actually want.

Can add Fyvie and Cummings to that list.

[Greenworld]

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Maybe re-read the thread, it’s a fairly straightforward point he’s made.

I'm not as clever as you but cheers for your input ...

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[Stuart93]

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Maybe re-read the thread, it’s a fairly straightforward point he’s made.

It’s not really though it’s common sense that messi is a lot better than our new players however it’s not as unrealistic to think that our new players could potentially be better than mcgeouch

[BILLYHIBS]

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Absolutely. Mallan is seen as our playmaker now. McGeouch but further forward. PH changed Mallans role into more of a number 8 when he came in. What we need is the attributes SJM brought albeit unlikely to be at the level he reached. I'm a bit gutted about Ojo tbh. I've seen him play for S****horpe before and he'd be ideal.

I would see Scott Allan as being more a playmaker

It will be interesting to see how Stevie Mallan fits into the overall scheme of things under Hecky

I do not think Hecky is done in the transfer market

I agree that we need a DM and a SJM type box to box water carrier

[The 90+2]

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Baffling comment that can you expand on what you mean?

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My post was on reply to “how do you know McGeough is better, have you seen the new players play”? Or similar. That’s why I mentioned Messi.

[bingo70]

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Mcgeough was an another one who thot the grass was greener.

A regular in front of 18k fans, Scottish Internationalist, decent wages and a team competing at the top end of league. What more did he actually want.

Can add Fyvie and Cummings to that list.

Mcgeouch achieved all he was ever going to at Hibs, I don’t blame him for looking for a new challenge.

Won a league
Qualified for Europe
Played in Europe
Won a cup
Earned a Scotland call up

IMO taking off the Hibs specs it was the right time for him to look for a new challenge, it’s a shame for him it’s not worked out though.

[The 90+2]

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I would see Scott Allan as being more a playmaker

It will be interesting to see how Stevie Mallan fits into the overall scheme of things under Hecky

I do not think Hecky is done in the transfer market

I agree that we need a DM and a SJM type box to box water carrier

Allan is better with the ball at his feet running at opposition or creating chances for the forwards for me. He would be spoiled as playmaker until his legs have gone.

[J-C]

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I would see Scott Allan as being more a playmaker

It will be interesting to see how Stevie Mallan fits into the overall scheme of things under Hecky

I do not think Hecky is done in the transfer market

I agree that we need a DM and a SJM type box to box water carrier

It will be Allan, Mallan and AN Other, Allan behind the striker/strikers, Mallan sitting a wee bit deeper and another mid to do the graft a McGinn type if possible.

[J-C]

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Mcgeouch achieved all he was ever going to at Hibs, I don’t blame him for looking for a new challenge.

Won a league
Qualified for Europe
Played in Europe
Won a cup
Earned a Scotland call up

IMO taking off the Hibs specs it was the right time for him to look for a new challenge, it’s a shame for him it’s not worked out though.

That bit in bold dried up fairly quickly though.

[bingo70]

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That bit in bold dried up fairly quickly though.

He didn’t know that was going to happen though.

He obviously wanted to push himself and backed himself to succeed, don’t think you can criticise a player for that.

[flash]

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If McGeouch was to rejoin he would be one of the top 2/3 players at the club.

Doubtful.

[Robbo6-2]

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Mcgeouch achieved all he was ever going to at Hibs,

Dont agree with that tbh, we should looking at winning more and more trophies, better progress in europe.

Hes now gonna end up with a sore neck watching Mckenna punt the ball up to Cosgrove and Main.

Least his bank balance is decent tho

[Torto7]

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I would see Scott Allan as being more a playmaker

It will be interesting to see how Stevie Mallan fits into the overall scheme of things under Hecky

I do not think Hecky is done in the transfer market

I agree that we need a DM and a SJM type box to box water carrier

They both are tbf although Allan will be further forward which you can have in a middle three if you have the guy that can do the dirty work and take the ball under pressure.

This is a key season for Mallan imo. Does he become a potential international or will his lack of athleticism mean he's merely SPL average level?

Last season there was flashes of both I thought. He strikes the ball as cleanly as I've seen, Lennon was spot on with the Moravcic comparison. Can his legs carry him though? At times he really struggled against the Aberdeen/Huns in particular. Hopefully he has a good preseason and the S&C staff can work some magic.

[FilipinoHibs]

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He didn’t know that was going to happen though.

He obviously wanted to push himself and backed himself to succeed, don’t think you can criticise a player for that.

Third tier of English football? Think it was more. A money thing and not getting on with Lennon.

[CapitalGreen]

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It’s not really though it’s common sense that messi is a lot better than our new players however it’s not as unrealistic to think that our new players could potentially be better than mcgeouch

I said it was a straightforward point, I didn’t say it was a good a point.

[BILLYHIBS]

Maybe getting myself confused with playmaker and DM

I see SA pulling the strings from the No 10 role as he did before with killer passes and chipping in with goals from a further forward role

Stevie Mallan was outstanding versus Celtic 2-0 in the playmaker role but not sure if Hecky sees him in that position

I think Hecky has still to pull a couple of rabbits out of the hat with a DM and an energetic midfielder and then we will be in a position to see how he wants us to play system personnel and tactics

He will also want cover for every position that he seems to be doing very well at so far

[J-C]

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He didn’t know that was going to happen though.

He obviously wanted to push himself and backed himself to succeed, don’t think you can criticise a player for that.

I disagree, playing for Hibs and being successful gave him his cap, moving to Div 1 in England was a big error in my opinion.

[jeffers]

While undoubtedly talented I always felt McGeouch's actual contribution to the team was vastly exaggerated, so if he does sign for Aberdeen I'll be interested to see how he does. I'm surprised to have seen him described as a defensive midfielder on here because IMO that is not what he is and never was. We actually need a genuine defensive midfielder so I can see why Hecky isn't interested in signing him.

[bingo70]

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Third tier of English football? Think it was more. A money thing and not getting on with Lennon.

Sunderland are a massive club and he probably fancied them to win the league, playing in an attacking winning team would be a better option than a team in the league above in a relegation battle for his type of player.

In hindsight it’s clearly not worked out for him but i get his logic as to why he moved.

He’s also a Scottish Cup Winning hero so I don’t have any bitterness towards him at all, he earned the right to make a move to whoever he wanted in my book, good luck to him, I hope he goes on to have a great career wherever that may be, although obviously if it is with Aberdeen I hope he gets sick of looking up the table at Hibs.

[J-C]

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They both are tbf although Allan will be further forward which you can have in a middle three if you have the guy that can do the dirty work and take the ball under pressure.

This is a key season for Mallan imo. Does he become a potential international or will his lack of athleticism mean he's merely SPL average level?

Last season there was flashes of both I thought. He strikes the ball as cleanly as I've seen, Lennon was spot on with the Moravcic comparison. Can his legs carry him though? At times he really struggled against the Aberdeen/Huns in particular. Hopefully he has a good preseason and the S&C staff can work some magic.

I thought Mallan looked a lot fitted and more athletic after Hecky came in, he has a decent range of passing and is good under pressure.

[The 90+2]

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Third tier of English football? Think it was more. A money thing and not getting on with Lennon.

Or the challenge of getting a massive club like Sunderland back to top place in English football?

[Torto7]

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I thought Mallan looked a lot fitted and more athletic after Hecky came in, he has a decent range of passing and is good under pressure.

Yeah you're right. I think we'll be a very fit side this season. Hecky doesn't seem the type to suffer any slacking.

[brog]

I like Dylan but I never really got the adulation he received from so many on here. As others have said he's certainly not a defensive midfield player. I still remember his error in the cup semi versus Falkirk. He's also definitely not an attacking midfielder. His record of 2 open play goals in well over 100 games is very poor. The frustration is he has the talent to play a much more creative & attacking role, his goal versus Sheep in cup was superb & may be why McInnes is a fan. He was great at retaining possession & making space for others & while I would have welcomed him back I have faith that PH has a structure & plan in place. We move on.

[BILLYHIBS]

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They both are tbf although Allan will be further forward which you can have in a middle three if you have the guy that can do the dirty work and take the ball under pressure.

This is a key season for Mallan imo. Does he become a potential international or will his lack of athleticism mean he's merely SPL average level?

Last season there was flashes of both I thought. He strikes the ball as cleanly as I've seen, Lennon was spot on with the Moravcic comparison. Can his legs carry him though? At times he really struggled against the Aberdeen/Huns in particular. Hopefully he has a good preseason and the S&C staff can work some magic.

What worries me about Stevie Mallan in that role is he was outstanding versus Celtic but other teams the Huns especially were wise to him in fact the Huns did to us what we did to Celtic they closed us down from the kick off
Hecky has been at the club six months he has had time to evaluate his squad he knows how he wants to set up and play.He had Stevie Mallan at Barnsley and did not play him
I am with you Stevie Mallan is a talent he is still young and can be moulded into a top player and I am convinced Hecky is the right man to do it
We will soon find out

[The Modfather]

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While undoubtedly talented I always felt McGeouch's actual contribution to the team was vastly exaggerated, so if he does sign for Aberdeen I'll be interested to see how he does. I'm surprised to have seen him described as a defensive midfielder on here because IMO that is not what he is and never was. We actually need a genuine defensive midfielder so I can see why Hecky isn't interested in signing him.

McGeough was excellent for us and would love to have him back. However I do think you make a good point. McGeough thrived with McGinn beside him as McGinn was always an out ball no matter if he had two players around him or not.

[JimboHibs]

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Mcgeough was an another one who thot the grass was greener.

A regular in front of 18k fans, Scottish Internationalist, decent wages and a team competing at the top end of league. What more did he actually want.

Can add Fyvie and Cummings to that list.

Sunderland are big club and unfortunately for him it hasnt worked out .... do you think he left thinking great i hope this move doesnt work out for me , been many players sign for us with high hopes and it hasnt worked out for them , works both ways !!