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    Quote Originally Posted by IncredibleHibee View Post
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    Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!
    Agree to an extent but there is a difference from taking a punt on a league 2 player that we get when their contract is up and paying a fee for a player which is seemingly in demand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paisley Hibby View Post
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    Unlike many other managers, Heckingbottom is now well placed to fully appreciate the comparative standards between England AND Scotland across these levels. And he's not going to risk building on his developing managerial career by making a basic mistake of over- or underrating anyone. He knows what he's doing.
    I can see Hecky is behind nearly all the players we have signed or are apparently signing. These are players he has scouted and wanted in. So the question is, what is our much vaunted scouting and recruitment team doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbie02 View Post
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    I can see Hecky is behind nearly all the players we have signed or are apparently signing. These are players he has scouted and wanted in. So the question is, what is our much vaunted scouting and recruitment team doing?
    ****** me.....this again, how many times does it need to be explained.

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    ****** me.....this again, how many times does it need to be explained.
    Not everyone is on Hibs.net 24/7.

    Why not just answer the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    Not everyone is on Hibs.net 24/7.

    Why not just answer the question?
    https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/t...-hibs-15849745

    This help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbie02 View Post
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    I can see Hecky is behind nearly all the players we have signed or are apparently signing. These are players he has scouted and wanted in. So the question is, what is our much vaunted scouting and recruitment team doing?
    The fact you have differentiated between scouting and recruitment in your post shows you already acknowledge there is more to their role than purely identifying players so I am confused as to why you ask what they are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbie02 View Post
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    I can see Hecky is behind nearly all the players we have signed or are apparently signing. These are players he has scouted and wanted in. So the question is, what is our much vaunted scouting and recruitment team doing?
    Identifying guys like Omeonga? Mathie is a very useful guy to have at the club. He's got good contacts and a direct phone line to John Park.

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    I may be wrong but did quite a few of Aberdeen's players not come from league 1 and 2? Cosgrove and Logan were certainly from there or there abouts. The thought of a Matt Done and players like that coming in scare me but we can't think all end up like that. In fairness Filipe Morais clearly had talent but he failed so ultimately there is always risk involved. Morais made a bigger impact than Gauld so...

    I know I'm going back quite a few years with Morais. Morais was an example because I'm sure Stevenson mentioned him in a recent interview saying he was unreal in training.

    Recruit a player, not a name.

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    How can anyone find it "crazy" that we are spending money on what the manager wants, what is crazy about the club backing the manager again?

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    Was Jim Duffy the last manager to concentrate on players he knew from league he was familiar with

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    There will be players he'd have earmarked for a while, when he was Leeds and out of work. These are lads he'll know very well. I'm happy to trust Heckys judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    Was Jim Duffy the last manager to concentrate on players he knew from league he was familiar with
    That's 10 minutes on the naughty step for you young man

    At least Hecky didn't arrive in a helicopter

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    How can anyone find it "crazy" that we are spending money on what the manager wants, what is crazy about the club backing the manager again?
    Since the not spending money argument has been removed it is now the league the player plays in. Lets be honest here the money swilling around league 2 would dwarf the majority of SPL teams budgets. Sounds like two interesting players. Wonder where the Doidge signing puts Flo or McNulty. He sounds like the sort of goalscorer we need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Since the not spending money argument has been removed it is now the league the player plays in. Lets be honest here the money swilling around league 2 would dwarf the majority of SPL teams budgets. Sounds like two interesting players. Wonder where the Doidge signing puts Flo or McNulty. He sounds like the sort of goalscorer we need.
    I wonder if those complaining about paying big money (for us) to English lower league teams also complain when English teams try to lowball Scottish teams because the English think that generally speaking "Scottish fitba is s***e"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IncredibleHibee View Post
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    Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!
    Doidge is a League 2 player, not National League. Darren M was playing for Arniston when he was the same age as Tom James is now. Let's give them a chance & our support. They'll be desperate to do well.

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    Mathie and his team scout the players, LD and Craig sign them but only after the head coach is happy with the said players, the head coach will also have a few players he knows from his previous roles at clubs, it's a mixture.

    Kamberi, McLaren and Milligan are scouted players, whereas Bogdan and Efe are players known to Lennon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brog View Post
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    Doidge is a League 2 player, not National League. Darren M was playing for Arniston when he was the same age as Tom James is now. Let's give them a chance & our support. They'll be desperate to do well.
    I would argue he’s a higher level player as Bolton wanted to sign him. I’m happy with all the transfer dealings so far.

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    I would argue he’s a higher level player as Bolton wanted to sign him. I’m happy with all the transfer dealings so far.
    Couldn’t agree more with this. Doidge is a proven goalscorer. A lower league gem and will come to ER and score goals. He’s excellent in the air without being the traditional static target man. He’s very mobile, good with both feet and his movement off the ball is what impressed me the most from the clips I have seen. He works hard for the team and presses from the front. He’s the ‘penalty box striker’ we’ve been looking for.

    As previously mentioned, a number of ‘hidden gems’ have been found in the lower regions of English football.

    Louis Moult.
    Sam Cosgrove.
    Dwight Gayle.
    Jamie Vardy.
    Lewis Wing.
    Ethan Pinnock.
    Sam Clucas.
    Ashley Williams.
    Chris Smalling.
    Peter Crouch.
    Michail Antonio.
    Yannick Bolasie.
    Danny Ings.
    Charlie Austin.
    Troy Deeney.
    Rickie Lambert.

    By no means suggesting that the likes of Doidge can reach the heights of some of the players on that list. But all of those players were once given an opportunity and grasped it with both hands. No reason why Doidge can’t do the same.

    Morelos was signed from the Veikkausliiga which is considered a lower standard than that of the Scottish Premiership. He didn’t turn out too bad.

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    Spoke to a mate who is well up on his welsh football. He's some sort of fans rep with the welsh FA.

    Anyway, asked him about James and Doidge, said james is alright, blows hot and cold. He also said Doidge is destined for a higher level than he's at and would expect him to be in the welsh squads in the not too distant future.

    Fingers crossed

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    My thoughts exactly mate.
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    Spoke to a mate who is well up on his welsh football. He's some sort of fans rep with the welsh FA.

    Anyway, asked him about James and Doidge, said james is alright, blows hot and cold. He also said Doidge is destined for a higher level than he's at and would expect him to be in the welsh squads in the not too distant future.

    Fingers crossed
    In Hecky we trust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloryGlory View Post
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    Eh, Naw! Doesn't answer my question. Is is purely coincidence that Hecky knows about all these guys from his time down South and these are the same guys Mathie and Co have identified? It sounds to me that Hecky does in fact have a wishlist and is getting who he wants.

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    New signing incoming I reckon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torto7 View Post
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    Identifying guys like Omeonga? Mathie is a very useful guy to have at the club. He's got good contacts and a direct phone line to John Park.
    I know he is very useful and has unearthed some good players (mainly on loan) but we mainly seem to be connected with players Hecky knows this time around. For every Omeonga we find there are 4 or 5 duds we never see.
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    New signing happening hibs twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyJo View Post
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    ****** me.....this again, how many times does it need to be explained.
    Depends on now many times it has been explained and if I saw the "explanation".....

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    Doidge confirmed.
    Less talk, more gifs. 21.05.16

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    Doidge announced

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    Funny how he's been announced before James who's been with us for a week.

    Maybe something that needs to be settled with Yeovil before he's unveiled.

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    Tom James tomorrow apparently

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKev View Post
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    Funny how he's been announced before James who's been with us for a week.

    Maybe something that needs to be settled with Yeovil before he's unveiled.
    Probably Brexit or VAR at fault.

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