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    We do seem to be on top of our transfer activity this year if this is true.

    Still want another forward, cm and a maybe winger? And it depends what happens with the goalie situation.

    So that's McNulty, Omeonga, Barker and Bogdan :-)

    We need a defensive midfielder.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    What happens to Boyle, Horgan and Newell in a 3-5-2, will they all be on the bench?
    I assume Newell can play in a midfield three on the left? It's horses for courses and we need to be flexible in our options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    What happens to Boyle, Horgan and Newell in a 3-5-2, will they all be on the bench?
    The same way we managed to fit Boyle, McGinn, Allan, Mcgeouch, Kamberi and Maclaren into a 3-5-2 in season 17/18?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    We need a defensive midfielder.
    That depends how we are going to play maybe?

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    Hopefully not another James Collins scenario, hope we dont expect 30 goals a season because we paid for him.
    Yeah hopefully not. I can't help but think that if there wasn't so much pressure on Collins or expection from the fans because of the fee he might have been cut a bit more slack. There was a fair bit of hype around him signing if i remember. He's not the worst forward I've ever seen at Hibs. Vine was far worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain G View Post
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    I assume Newell can play in a midfield three on the left? It's horses for courses and we need to be flexible in our options.

    I agree but I can't see us starting with that shape, I reckon it'll be 4-3-3/4-5-1 and against certain teams change to 3 at the back, we need to be flexible and adapt to different teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    What happens to Boyle, Horgan and Newell in a 3-5-2, will they all be on the bench?
    You池e imaging an ideal world in which every player is fit and available for selection. Taking the RWB position as an example, there were points last season in which all 3 of our first choice options for there were unavailable.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMNYNHmKt-4 - Doidge reminds me of Cummings. Not that big or strong or even quick but just seems to be in the right place at the right time for the vast majority of these goals. Couple of screamers but mostly takes advantage of a half yard of space.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Horde View Post
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    The same way we managed to fit Boyle, McGinn, Allan, Mcgeouch, Kamberi and Maclaren into a 3-5-2 in season 17/18?

    Boyle played WB due to Gray being injured, Lennon got lucky with that shape as it gave him the chance to play 2 up top and 3 in the middle. We'll have Gray and James as our WB's which leaves Boyle out the team in a 3-5-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    You池e imaging an ideal world in which every player is fit and available for selection. Taking the RWB position as an example, there were points last season in which all 3 of our first choice options for there were unavailable.
    As I said in the post above we will have to adapt from game to game, we seen 4-5-1 from Hecky last season but that me be due to the players he had to work with, as yet we have no clue as to how he is going to set us up.

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    Nice

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    No idea how physical the new boys are that we signing but it does appear we will have a bit more height in the team next season with Newell and Doidge. Which will hopefully help us defend and attack set plays better.

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    No idea how physical the new boys are that we signing but it does appear we will have a bit more height in the team next season with Newell and Doidge. Which will hopefully help us defend and attack set plays better.
    From the clips Iv saw of Doidge he certainly wins a lot of headers whether it痴 a ball played upto him, crosses or corners which is a massive bonus and something we致e lacked. I can稚 remember McNulty or Kamberi winning a header from a set piece?

    250-300k is the rumour being touted which means he will come with a bit of pressure on his shoulders. Let痴 hope he does the job.

    Quite looking forward to see James play and where he fits in, noticed he can play defensive mid too.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMNYNHmKt-4 - Doidge reminds me of Cummings. Not that big or strong or even quick but just seems to be in the right place at the right time for the vast majority of these goals. Couple of screamers but mostly takes advantage of a half yard of space.
    Finishes with both feet aswell

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Boyle played WB due to Gray being injured, Lennon got lucky with that shape as it gave him the chance to play 2 up top and 3 in the middle. We'll have Gray and James as our WB's which leaves Boyle out the team in a 3-5-2.
    Depends on who we are playing and what their formation is.

    3-5-2 against the old firm and you would have Gray or Jones and Stevenson in as wingbacks with a more defensive focus.

    3-5-2 against a defensive team likely to sit in and try and counter-attack would give us scope to play Boyle, Newell or Horgan in those wide positions.

    I also don't expect us to stick rigidly to a formation regardless of player availability and opposition.

    The squad that is being built, with a few more key additions, appears to be more than capable of setting up in a variety of ways.




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    Nice
    Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I知 wrong but I知 concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I知 worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IncredibleHibee View Post
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    Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I知 wrong but I知 concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I知 worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!
    My thoughts exactly mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyJo View Post
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    Depends on who we are playing and what their formation is.

    3-5-2 against the old firm and you would have Gray or Jones and Stevenson in as wingbacks with a more defensive focus.

    3-5-2 against a defensive team likely to sit in and try and counter-attack would give us scope to play Boyle, Newell or Horgan in those wide positions.

    I also don't expect us to stick rigidly to a formation regardless of player availability and opposition.

    The squad that is being built, with a few more key additions, appears to be more than capable of setting up in a variety of ways.
    Going to be an interesting season, if we have versatile players who can play in various systems and positions, then I'm all for that.

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    Summer 2019 transfer thread

    Quote Originally Posted by IncredibleHibee View Post
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    Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I知 wrong but I知 concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I知 worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!
    Put this into context

    The yams paid Dundee a similar fee for Wighton who has scored 10 (yes 10) career goals.

    Doidge has scored 90, albeit it some at lower levels.

    I have a question.... where should we get our signings from?


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    Quote Originally Posted by IncredibleHibee View Post
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    Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I知 wrong but I知 concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I知 worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!
    hard to judge I guess, although I think all were wanted at a higher level

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    Quote Originally Posted by IncredibleHibee View Post
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    Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I知 wrong but I知 concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I知 worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!
    I've got the same doubts. The only thing I would say is that PH definitely had an eye for a player at Barnsley(who could step up) and I'm hoping this is the case here.

    He'll get my support regardless and hopefully my doubts are wrong.

    Plus Scott Allan's back along with Boyle and Porto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IncredibleHibee View Post
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    Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!
    This is the way our manager works though. There's no point in appointing PH (who has a track record of finding and promoting talent from the English lower leagues) then telling him not to do that. Lennon liked players he knew through agents and players he knew from Celtic, that worked for him - he should be backed to work his way.

    We need to give the players a chance - fair enough, criticise if it doesn't work. Many players have come with this sort of pedigree, done brilliantly in Scotland and we've all moaned that we should have picked them up.

    Any signing comes with a risk that they won't make it.

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    It's only a small figure, like losing out on a shirt sponsor for a season..
    Naughty, but funny.

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    Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I知 wrong but I知 concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I知 worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!
    That thought has crossed my mind too. It's harder than people think up here.

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    Lets be brutally honest, the standard in the videos is horrific. Its low end Scottish championship or Scottish League 1 level.

    Gonna be a huge step up for the lad and seems a big fee to be paying for him.

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    Doidge looks handy in the YouTube video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IncredibleHibee View Post
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    Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I知 wrong but I知 concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I知 worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!
    Forest Green play in EFL 2, don't they, not Nat League 2?

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    Hecky has been here for a few months now so should have a fair idea of the game. If he thinks these boys can handle it then I値l fully support him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IncredibleHibee View Post
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    Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!
    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leag...wettbewerb/GB4

    Louis Moult came from a non-league team was was superb for Motherwell - the flipside is you get players who arrive with big reputations who don't deliver. It's not an exact science.

    I'm satisfied that we will have done our due diligence here - given what PH has said about the physicality of our league, and how it's refereed differently, I highly doubt that he would have sanctioned the transfers if he had any concerns about them performing at this level.

    There are numerous variables that can affect how well a player performs, some of them completely beyond your control. All you can do is hope for the best, and - as you say - offer our full support.

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