US claiming Iran has torpedoed 2 oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman.

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iPhone?

I would suggest the footage came from a drone...similar to the one that was shot down or the Reaper that was also attempted to be downed when observing one of the tankers.

and this is the quality of camera the US use in 2019 on security drones?

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Oooh, another conspiracy with no facts to back it up. Love it.

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Oooh, another conspiracy with no facts to back it up. Love it.

I agree. The conspiracy of what the US are claiming and all of those believing it without any conclusive evidence.

Perhaps you can explain why the security services with the highest budget in the world can't muster anything better than a low resolution black and white camera when it comes to recording drone security footage?

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Gulf of Tonkin taught us nothing it seems.

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At least they had better quality footage back then.

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I agree. The conspiracy of what the US are claiming and all of those believing it without any conclusive evidence.

Perhaps you can explain why the security services with the highest budget in the world can't muster anything better than a low resolution black and white camera when it comes to recording drone security footage?

No idea, but I suspect you have the gen.

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No idea, but I suspect you have the gen.

Of course not. I'm just not gullible enough to swallow the official line with such questionable "evidence".

Did you watch the video I posted on the previous page? It may be of interest to you.

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and this is the quality of camera the US use in 2019 on security drones?

Maybe it was taken from many miles away at high zoom? Dunno. The quality of photo will depend on many factors.

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and this is the quality of camera the US use in 2019 on security drones?

They use filters. The guys in the red lifejackets have cat noses and ears.

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Of course not. I'm just not gullible enough to swallow the official line with such questionable "evidence".

Did you watch the video I posted on the previous page? It may be of interest to you.

I watched as much as I could bear. It's all part of the conspiracy that I'm very excited about.

Very excited indeed. I can't wait to see what happens in the end.

[Hibbyradge]

How do we decode this? Does this mean that the US downed their own drone so they could say that they forgive Iran for making a mistake?

Or did the US down it mistakenly?

I'm rubbish at conspiracies.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48711229

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How do we decode this? Does this mean that the US downed their own drone so they could say that they forgive Iran for making a mistake?

Or did the US down it mistakenly?

I'm rubbish at conspiracies.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48711229

Backtracking as soon as Iran mentions the UN.

It's all just an exciting conspiracy though right?

Shame you didn't bother to watch the whole video. Education is key when it comes to these things.

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Backtracking as soon as Iran mentions the UN.

It's all just an exciting conspiracy though right?

Shame you didn't bother to watch the whole video. Education is key when it comes to these things.

Who is backtracking from what exactly?

It's all very exciting, I agree.

Fake news is not education.

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Who is backtracking from what exactly?

Iran releases a statement saying they'll take it up with the UN and Trump wastes no time coming out with "well.... maybe it was an honest mistake."

The US are full of it.

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Iran releases a statement saying they'll take it up with the UN and Trump wastes no time coming out with "well.... maybe it was an honest mistake."

The US are full of it.

So there's no conspiracy?

That's disappointing.

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So there's no conspiracy?

That's disappointing.

If you ignore the fact that they lied, then subsequently shat it as soon as Iran released that statement, then I suppose you can pretend there was nothing dodgy going on here. Enjoy remaining in that bubble.

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If you ignore the fact that they lied, then subsequently shat it as soon as Iran released that statement, then I suppose you can pretend there was nothing dodgy going on here. Enjoy remaining in that bubble.

So there was a conspiracy, but someone called someone's bluff, and the conspiracy was no more?

That's a pish conspiracy.

You'd think these conspiracy inventors would be able to think a few steps ahead, eh? But mibbes no.

I just wish I hadn't got all excited in the first place.

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So there was a conspiracy, but someone called someone's bluff, and the conspiracy was no more?

That's a pish conspiracy.

You'd think these conspiracy inventors would be able to think a few steps ahead, eh? But mibbes no.

I just wish I hadn't got all excited in the first place.

Don't worry, they have many more things in the pipeline to try and provoke Iran into a war. Something you'd have known about if you had watched the video of them openly admitting that they do it.

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Well i'm sure the US could provide the tracking data to back up their claim, but I have a feeling they won't....

Or then again maybe they will...

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Or then again maybe they will...

FAKE NEWS!

PHOTOSHOP!

The Syndicate are still on top of things - Colonisation will occur soon.

Trust No One.

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Don't worry, they have many more things in the pipeline to try and provoke Iran into a war. Something you'd have known about if you had watched the video of them openly admitting that they do it.

That's good to hear. I can't wait.

Are you as disappointed as me that there wasn't a conspiracy like you said there was?

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Or then again maybe they will...

I did a reverse image search online to see exactly where this picture was sourced from. Seems to only appear on a handful of dodgy foreign sites. There's been absolutely no mention of it in US or UK media.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...ih=654#imgrc=_

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I agree. The conspiracy of what the US are claiming and all of those believing it without any conclusive evidence.

Perhaps you can explain why the security services with the highest budget in the world can't muster anything better than a low resolution black and white camera when it comes to recording drone security footage?

Maybe you are not looking at this objectively enough? I'm certain that the US has better resolution images than the one provided here - YOU don't need to know how good they are though! Why would the US announce to the world at large just how good its drone imagery really is?

Seems to me the image provided is good enough for most people to make some sort of judgment one way or the other, but probably not good enough for those out there who will not believe anything the US provides in the form of evidence anyway.

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Maybe you are not looking at this objectively enough? I'm certain that the US has better resolution images than the one provided here - YOU don't need to know how good they are though! Why would the US announce to the world at large just how good its drone imagery really is?

Seems to me the image provided is good enough for most people to make some sort of judgment one way or the other, but probably not good enough for those out there who will not believe anything the US provides in the form of evidence anyway.

So you're saying that they deliberately made public an awful quality version of the video, because they didn't want people to know that in this day and age, it's easy and cheap to stick a HD camera on a drone?

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I did a reverse image search online to see exactly where this picture was sourced from. Seems to only appear on a handful of dodgy foreign sites. There's been absolutely no mention of it in US or UK media.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...ih=654#imgrc=_

It looks like more reliable data than the hand-drawn effort released by the Foreign Minister of Iran

https://twitter.com/JZarif/status/1141772824086028288

I'd love to imagine what your response would have been if the US released a hand-drawn flight plan that showed the drone was always above international waters.

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It looks like more reliable data than the hand-drawn effort released by the Foreign Minister of Iran

https://twitter.com/JZarif/status/1141772824086028288

I'd love to imagine what your response would have been if the US released a hand-drawn flight plan that showed the drone was always above international waters.

If it's "US released". Then why hasn't it been picked up by CNN? Or Fox News? Or any other major news outlet in the US? You'd think it be worth mentioning. No mention of it on the BBC, Sky News or any other major news outlets here in the UK either.

Does that not strike you as odd?

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So you're saying that they deliberately made public an awful quality version of the video, because they didn't want people to know that in this day and age, it's easy and cheap to stick a HD camera on a drone?

Thought I made a fair point - I think the intelligence gathering services don't generally care to share everything with Joe Public for obvious reasons ... you got the image, make of it what you will, as you are plainly doing ...

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Thought I made a fair point - I think the intelligence gathering services don't generally care to share everything with Joe Public for obvious reasons ... you got the image, make of it what you will, as you are plainly doing ...

The obvious reason being that a more detailed version may not show what they're claiming?

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If it's "US released". Then why hasn't it been picked up by CNN? Or Fox News? Or any other major news outlet in the US? You'd think it be worth mentioning. No mention of it on the BBC, Sky News or any other major news outlets here in the UK either.

Does that not strike you as odd?

Will the New York Times suffice?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...drone-map.html

The original image is credited to the USDoD.

But I agree with you. It IS odd that it's not being more widely covered.

[Sylar]

Shudder - I had to go onto FoxNews to acquire this:

https://www.foxnews.com/world/pentag...very-different