Tories are lying *******s (warning may contain traces of Tory)

[weecounty hibby]

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Feel the love!A poem published by Boris Johnson when he was editor of Spectator magazine.

The Scotch - what a verminous race!

Canny, pushy, chippy, they're all over the place.

Battening off us with false bonhomie;

Polluting our stock, undermining our economy.

Down with sandy hair and knobbly knees!

Suppress the tartan dwarves and the Wee Frees!

Ban the kilt, the skean-dhu and the sporran

As provocatively, offensively foreign!

It's time Hadrian's Wall was refortified

To pen them in a ghetto on the other side.

I would go further. The nation

Deserves not merely isolation

But comprehensive extermination.

We must not flinch from a solution.

Extermination. Solution. Where have we heard that kind of talk before? That is an absolute disgrace that he had anything to do with that, writer or not. I suppose it's good to know what the probable leader of the UK government really thinks of us.

[Smartie]

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He was not the author but he did publish it, which is a horrendous thing to do. Not as bad a writing it, but comes close.

Boris is a gift for the SNP, I wonder if they can take advantage.

I agree re Boris, but there are many Tories who are similar (see the leadership candidates queuing up to talk tough on Scotland).

The SNP and Scottish independence full stop has a much stronger case when the more extreme Tory tendencies come to the fore. Thatcher, Boris, Rees-Mogg - everything these people stand for is alien to a huge proportion of the Scottish people (it is open to debate how much more they relate to the English population.) We've had a pretty strong influence from them for much of my lifetime, and it looks like that is only going to increase in future which spells very bad news for Scotland.

Scotland has been badly let down by the Labour Party and it hasn't ever been more let down than it is right now. A semi-competent Labour Party would be wiping the floor with this shambles, and with a half-decent Labour Party in government, it would be far harder to argue the case for independence.

[lapsedhibee]

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I saw this earlier.

It beggars belief that people see this guy and think he's Prime Minister material.

Matthew Parris was on the radiobox the other night suggesting that a most illuminating question to put to Bojoke on Tuesday, if he turns up, would be How many children do you have?

Wikipedia says 4. Parris suggests somewhere between 5 and 7.

Goes to character, m'lud.

[stoneyburn hibs]

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Feel the love!A poem published by Boris Johnson when he was editor of Spectator magazine.

The Scotch - what a verminous race!

Canny, pushy, chippy, they're all over the place.

Battening off us with false bonhomie;

Polluting our stock, undermining our economy.

Down with sandy hair and knobbly knees!

Suppress the tartan dwarves and the Wee Frees!

Ban the kilt, the skean-dhu and the sporran

As provocatively, offensively foreign!

It's time Hadrian's Wall was refortified

To pen them in a ghetto on the other side.

I would go further. The nation

Deserves not merely isolation

But comprehensive extermination.

We must not flinch from a solution.

Should be on billboard's

[Fife-Hibee]

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Boris is a gift for the SNP, I wonder if they can take advantage.

Not really. The vast majority of the anti-independence brigade get their jollies from good ole Scottish racism. They'll be cheering his every breath as Prime Minister.

[James310]

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Not really. The vast majority of the anti-independence brigade get their jollies from good ole Scottish racism. They'll be cheering his every breath as Prime Minister.

So the vast majority of the 55% that voted no get 'jollies' from racism? Ok then.

[Fife-Hibee]

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So the vast majority of the 55% that voted no get 'jollies' from racism? Ok then.

They view it as some kind of victory when some tory eton boy points the finger at jockland to talk us down.

[James310]

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They view it as some kind of victory when some tory eton boy points the finger at jockland to talk us down.

So to be clear the vast majority of Scots who voted No get their jollies from racism and like it when Tory Eton boys talk down jockland?

[lord bunberry]

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Boris Johnson as prime minister would be proof positive that accident of birth is still incredibly significant in Britain. Here is someone who believed from childhood that he would be prime minister; that he was born to it and it's his right. Imagine growing up being so secure of your place in the world, confident that, like so many Old Etonians, you are born to rule. What an embarrassment to this country, which totally undermines the lip service politicians pay to a supposed meritocracy and equality of opportunity. Our society remains medieval in so many ways, as the luck of draw continues to determine one's destiny. As a Conservative Johnson wishes to conserve this state of affairs. I despise him and the values he represents.

I can’t believe this post hasn’t had more recognition.
Well said sir

[stoneyburn hibs]

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So to be clear the vast majority of Scots who voted No get their jollies from racism and like it when Tory Eton boys talk down jockland?

So to be clear, he never said or alluded to that.

[James310]

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So to be clear, he never said or alluded to that.

So what does the vast majority mean? That's his words not mine.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Almost all, I wouldn't make much money if I had a wager that you are ripping the heid of it regarding Boris as the next PM.

[James310]

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Almost all, I wouldn't make much money if I had a wager that you are ripping the heid of it regarding Boris as the next PM.

So he said the vast majority which you admit is almost all, but then defend him saying that's not what he said. Your confused.

Have a rest and maybe you can get back to 'ripping the heid of it'

[stoneyburn hibs]

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So he said the vast majority which you admit is almost all, but then defend him saying that's not what he said. Your confused.

Have a rest and maybe you can get back to ripping the heid of it.

I'm rested, credit to you for not denying what you get off on.

[James310]

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I'm rested, credit to you for not denying what you get off on.

Yes they do say after a good **** you get rested. Well done, but spare us the details.

Now can we stick to adult debate, not revert to juvenile connotations.

[Fife-Hibee]

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So he said the vast majority which you admit is almost all, but then defend him saying that's not what he said. Your confused.

Have a rest and maybe you can get back to 'ripping the heid of it'

I said most of all and i'll stand by it. It's abundantly clear that the majority of "scots" would prefer to have Boris Johnson holding the whip over them, than have to deal with the sheer nightmare of their own countries sovereignty.

[James310]

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I said most of all and i'll stand by it. It's abundantly clear that the majority of "scots" would prefer to have Boris Johnson holding the whip over them, than have to deal with the sheer nightmare of their own countries sovereignty.

But your friend said you never said this? Now I am confused.

[Fife-Hibee]

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But your friend said you never said this? Now I am confused.

You slid the word "racism" in there which isn't what I said.

It is however exactly what I meant.

[1875godsgift]

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Should be on billboard's

Should be on every Scottish news channel and trending all over the internet.

[Fife-Hibee]

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Should be on every Scottish news channel and trending all over the internet.

Just one problem. We have no Scottish news channels. We have London channels dressed in kilts.

[stoneyburn hibs]

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But your friend said you never said this? Now I am confused.

I'll hold my hands up to that, got it wrong.

Your posting style noises me up if I'm honest, I jumped in and got it wrong.

[The Modfather]

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Not really. The vast majority of the anti-independence brigade get their jollies from good ole Scottish racism. They'll be cheering his every breath as Prime Minister.

You don’t do yourself, or the independence argument, any favours when you pigeonhole everyone who voted no as anti Scottish.

[Fife-Hibee]

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You don’t do yourself, or the independence argument, any favours when you pigeonhole everyone who voted no as anti Scottish.

I never said everyone, I said most. I'm prepared to be proven wrong though. The polls would suggest not though.

[James310]

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I'll hold my hands up to that, got it wrong.

Your posting style noises me up if I'm honest, I jumped in and got it wrong.

I don't care much for your posting style, but I don't feel the need to make references to you getting off on Nicola Sturgeon doing whatever it is she does.

Do you agree with Fife Hibee though? You were quick to defend him.

[Fife-Hibee]

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I don't care much for your posting style, but I don't feel the need to make references to you getting off on Nicola Sturgeon doing whatever it is she does.

Do you agree with Fife Hibee though? You were quick to defend him.

Which would you prefer. An independent Scotland? Or Scotland remaining in the UK under a PM who has made previous derogatory comments against Scotland?

I won't accept a whataboutery answer. It's either one or the other.

[James310]

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Which would you prefer. An independent Scotland? Or Scotland remaining in the UK under a PM who has made previous derogatory comments against Scotland?

I won't accept a whataboutery answer. It's either one or the other.

The latter at the moment, Boris is bad news, but no point jumping from the frying pan into the fire. I think he will be limited in the damage he can do if he becomes PM but the damage that Sturgeon and Co would do will be like nothing we have never seen before.

Also he will move on, he will maybe last a few years but the damage Sturgeon and her cronies would do to the economy would last for generations to come.

That clear enough for you?

[Hibrandenburg]

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Should be on billboard's

[stoneyburn hibs]

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I don't care much for your posting style, but I don't feel the need to make references to you getting off on Nicola Sturgeon doing whatever it is she does.

Do you agree with Fife Hibee though? You were quick to defend him.

I broadly agree with what he said, and I broadly agree with what he says in general.

[Fife-Hibee]

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The latter at the moment, Boris is bad news, but no point jumping from the frying pan into the fire. I think he will be limited in the damage he can do if he becomes PM but the damage that Sturgeon and Co would do will be like nothing we have never seen before.

Also he will move on, he will maybe last a few years but the damage Sturgeon and her cronies would do to the economy would last for generations to come.

All you had to say was "i'd rather Scotland was dictated to by an anti-Scottish racist than have control over it's own affairs."

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That clear enough for you?

Loud and clear.

[James310]

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All you had to say was "i'd rather Scotland was dictated to by an anti-Scottish racist than have control over it's own affairs."

Why would I say that when that's not what I mean or implied. You do like making stuff up don't you.