Tories are lying *******s (warning may contain traces of Tory)

[Andy Bee]

I've been listening to this unfold on BBC radio over the last few weeks. The presenters and MP's alike are actually giving BJ respect for staying out the limelight for as long as possible, in their minds, BJ himself has realised he's an erse and could cock things at any point, so because of his self awareness apparently he's playing a blinder. They've actually dubbed it Operation Ming Vase as everyone's waiting to see if he can carry it to the end. What an amazing country we live in

[JeMeSouviens]

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Funny how Ruth Davidson is going Sajid Javid and yet not one of the Scottish Tory mp’s is backing him.


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Speaking of Javid ... apparently he wasn't invited to the State banquet for Trumpy. He wasn't told why not and several more junior ministers were there.

If (as seems likely) he was deliberately kept off the guest list just because he's a Muslim and Trump is a racist ******** then surely that's unprecedentedly shameless, spineless behaviour, even for Tories?

[JeMeSouviens]

Bizarre tweet from Jeremy Hunt:

Woke up this morning and felt a bit like the morning of my wedding. Something big is going to change but don't quite know how it will unfold #HastobeHunt

Has Boris ****ged his missus?

[lapsedhibee]

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Speaking of Javid ... apparently he wasn't invited to the State banquet for Trumpy. He wasn't told why not and several more junior ministers were there.

If (as seems likely) he was deliberately kept off the guest list just because he's a Muslim and Trump is a racist ******** then surely that's unprecedentedly shameless, spineless behaviour, even for Tories?

Nothing to do with Islamophobia. It's a medical condition Trump has, like bone spurs, which renders him allergic to the sons of bus drivers: cf. Sadiq Khan.

[Hibrandenburg]

Shouty Ruthie now claiming the SNP need to win an absolute majority at the next election before they can claim to have a mandate for another referendum. No Ruth, you don't get to dictate the rules.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Bizarre tweet from Jeremy Hunt:



Has Boris ****ged his missus?

she's Hot, i doubt it

[Ozyhibby]

Had a quick look and about half the Tory mp’s hadn’t declared for anyone so there is a chance Hunt or Gove have bigger support than expected.


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[G B Young]

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Had a quick look and about half the Tory mp’s hadn’t declared for anyone so there is a chance Hunt or Gove have bigger support than expected.


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It would be encouraging to think Rory Stewart emerges with a genuine chance, but he seems far too reasonable in his outlook (and therefore nowhere near partisan enough in these polarised times) so will likely be an early faller.

[stokesmessiah]

BBC are reporting that the expected support for BJ is huge, much bigger than expected - 3 figures.

[stokesmessiah]

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It would be encouraging to think Rory Stewart emerges with a genuine chance, but he seems far too reasonable in his outlook (and therefore nowhere near partisan enough in these polarised times) so will likely be an early faller.

He does seem like a decent enough guy - therein lies the reason that they won't vote him in.

[Moulin Yarns]

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BBC are reporting that the expected support for BJ is huge, much bigger than expected - 3 figures.

114 for BoJo

Leadsom McVey and harper drop out

[Ozyhibby]

Johnson 114
Hunt 43
Gove 27
Javid 23
Raab 27
Hancock 20
Stewart 19
Harper 10
McVey 9
Leadsom 11


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[cabbageandribs1875]

if boris became PM(oh god) who on earth would he get to speak for him at PMQ's, assuming he would still be quite reluctant to answer Q's

[ronaldo7]

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Johnson 114
Hunt 43
Gove 27
Javid 23
Raab 27
Hancock 20
Stewart 19
Harper 10
McVey 9
Leadsom 11


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It looks like he's got the ERG onside. Tory party swings further to the right.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Johnson 114
Hunt 43
Gove 27
Javid 23
Raab 27
Hancock 20
Stewart 19
Harper 10
McVey 9
Leadsom 11


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So Harper, McVey, Leadsom automatically out?

Johnson has enough to go straight to the final 2 on those numbers. Looks like Hunt v **** in the runoff.

[Moulin Yarns]

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So Harper, McVey, Leadsom automatically out?

Johnson has enough to go straight to the final 2 on those numbers. Looks like Hunt v **** in the runoff.

Wouldn't bet on it. The vote is still open to wheeling and dealing. This is the tories after all.

[Jones28]

Holy ****. What is going on here? BJ will be the next PM and I want to go and live on the moon.

[cabbageandribs1875]

just short of 200 voted against boris

[Ozyhibby]

To get through the next round Stewart will need to pick up most of Harper and Leadsoms votes. McVeys votes will go to Johnson I would think.


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[SHODAN]

Johnson is in the final two on those votes and therefore our next PM. Let's hope he's the straw that breaks the Tories' back.

[stokesmessiah]

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just short of 200 voted against boris

McVey, Leadsom & Harper all took quite a hard line on Brexit though - so you would have to think the likelihood is a lot of them will fall behind Boris now?

Its going to be between Hunt & BJ.

[degenerated]

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He does seem like a decent enough guy - therein lies the reason that they won't vote him in.

He's managed to paint himself as some sort of centrist but his voting record suggests he is little different to the rest of them

Almost always voted against a right to remain for EU nationals already in living in the UK
Generally voted against laws to promote equality and human rights
Almost always voted for use of UK military forces in combat operations overseas
Voted against investigations into the Iraq war
Consistently voted for replacing Trident with a new nuclear weapons system
Generally voted against more EU integration
Generally voted for a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU
Generally voted against UK membership of the EU
Almost always voted against smoking bans
Generally voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (which Labour describe as the "bedroom tax")
Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices
Almost always voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability
Almost always voted for making local councils responsible for helping those in financial need afford their council tax and reducing the amount spent on such support
Almost always voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits
Generally voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed
Almost always voted against increasing the tax rate applied to income over £150,000
Generally voted against a banker’s bonus tax
Consistently voted against an annual tax on the value of expensive homes (popularly known as a mansion tax)
Almost always voted for more restrictive regulation of trade union activity
Almost always voted for reducing capital gains tax
Voted for raising England’s undergraduate tuition fee cap to £9,000 per year
Consistently voted for ending financial support for some 16-19 year olds in training and further education
Consistently voted for university tuition fees
Almost always voted for reducing central government funding of local government
Consistently voted for a stricter asylum system
Consistently voted for requiring the mass retention of information about communications
Consistently voted for stronger enforcement of immigration rules
Consistently voted for mass surveillance of people’s communications and activities
Generally voted against measures to prevent climate change
Consistently voted for selling England’s state owned forests
Generally voted against financial incentives for low carbon emission electricity generation methods
Generally voted for culling badgers to tackle bovine tuberculosis
Generally voted against greater regulation of hydraulic fracturing (fracking) to extract shale gas
Almost always voted against slowing the rise in rail fares
Generally voted against a publicly owned railway system
Almost always voted against greater public control of bus services
Consistently voted for phasing out secure tenancies for life
Consistently voted against greater regulation of gambling
Consistently voted for capping civil service redundancy payments
Generally voted for the privatisation of Royal Mail
Generally voted for restricting the scope of legal aid
Consistently voted for allowing national security sensitive evidence to be put before courts in secret sessions
Consistently voted against restrictions on fees charged to tenants by letting agents

[stokesmessiah]

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To get through the next round Stewart will need to pick up most of Harper and Leadsoms votes. McVeys votes will go to Johnson I would think.


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Can't see that happening at all.

[stokesmessiah]

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He's managed to paint himself as some sort of centrist but his voting record suggests he is little different to the rest of them

Wow - that is quite an interesting read.

Can i ask where that came from ?

[Ozyhibby]

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Can't see that happening at all.

Neither can I, unless he has an amazing debate on Sunday night he’s toast next Tuesday.


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[JeMeSouviens]

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He's managed to paint himself as some sort of centrist but his voting record suggests he is little different to the rest of them

These voting record things are usually a total waste of time. Most of these are whipped votes where the MP has to vote with the party or face disciplinary measures, ultimately being booted out.

Where an MP has departed from the party whip is much more interesting.

Anyway, Boris doesn't fit labels like left/right/centrist. His central mission is being a self serving ****.

[Bangkok Hibby]

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He's managed to paint himself as some sort of centrist but his voting record suggests he is little different to the rest of them

As soon as someone comes along you think might have a bit of humanity about them something like this reminds us they're all just self serving, evil Tory *******s.

[lapsedhibee]

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Holy ****. What is going on here? BJ will be the next PM.

Big fat boost for Irish and Scottish nationalism.

[degenerated]

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Wow - that is quite an interesting read.

Can i ask where that came from ?

There's a website called "they work for you" where you can check on any of them

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24...e_border/votes

[stokesmessiah]

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There's a website called "they work for you" where you can check on any of them

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24...e_border/votes

Thank you.