The game is truly ****ed with this clown at the helm:
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04-06-2019 06:03 PM #1
Strict Liability - That will be that then
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04-06-2019 06:05 PM #2
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Hibs being punished for the actions of 1 or 2 individuals wouldn’t be right imo
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04-06-2019 06:08 PM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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04-06-2019 06:34 PM #4
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... but 39 clubs agreed that 2 clubs should be held responsible
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04-06-2019 06:37 PM #5
He’s right.
Every gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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04-06-2019 06:48 PM #6
Easy for Donkey Doncaster to say strict liability isn’t the answer while not giving any solutions himself.
A joke that the clubs, ours included, keep him in a job.
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04-06-2019 07:14 PM #7
We don't want liability, we would get done every other week for smoke bombs and pitch encroachment.
Hibs.nets negative posting legend and unofficial ticket agent.
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Unlikely.Hibs.nets negative posting legend and unofficial ticket agent.
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Last edited by BILLYHIBS; 04-06-2019 at 10:54 PM.
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05-06-2019 04:00 AM #11
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05-06-2019 06:17 AM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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If Doncaster genuinely believes strict liability will not work, what's his alternative? Nothing it seems as 'there's problems in other parts of Europe'. What a cop out, a complete lack of leadership and abdication of responsibility.
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05-06-2019 06:46 AM #14
Back to 3000 Old Firm morons spewing out their sectarian bile at us for ninety minutes without reproach
Nothing changes but hey it’s Scotland!
Absoluute disgrace we will forever be stuck in the 17th century
The bigots win again
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05-06-2019 06:50 AM #15
Only protecting the interests of two clubs here. We have complete fuds in our support but they would be pulled up week in week out if SL was brought in and used correctly. He is really pushing the OF at the moment after his cross border pish the other day. Again only two clubs want that to happen. Scottish football is so much more than the bigot twins but you wouldn't know it when Doncaster speaks
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05-06-2019 06:54 AM #16
He's the antithesis of progress for our game, but I agree with him here.
Say it's brought in, and we're at the last game of the season - Celtc are chasing 10 in a row, are level on points with Rangers, and a win secures Celtc the title. The majority of Rangers fans will be rightly watching their own team, but let's say a small band of them decide to provide a bit of insurance. They don Celtc tops for the day, go to wherever Celtc are playing their game and behave like complete dicks - invading the pitch, assaulting players, throwing smoke bombs, screaming all types of abuse...under strict liability, that could result in points deductions and impact the integrity of the league.
It's too easy to manipulate and doesn't deal with the root problem. Quite what the solution is, I don't know, but strict liability is a system to be weaponised.
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05-06-2019 07:12 AM #17
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Right now the clubs that might be affected are largely in control where their ticket allocation for SPFL matches go.
Both The Rangers and Celtic and to a large extent Hibs, Aberdeen and Hearts, have a sufficient registered fan base to fill their allocation for any away game. It would take a fair bit of collusion from home supporters to allow a malignant group of fans to get tickets and that is unlikely. This argument is a red herring that is rolled out by clubs afraid of the consequences of strict liability, in particular, the two large Glasgow clubs who rely on outpouring of hatred to keep their fan base numbers.
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05-06-2019 07:24 AM #18
The whole point of Strict Liability is self policing
It worked in Italy in the noughties where proper fans shouted down racist chants and pulled down neofascist banners
The consequences for the home clubs was closure of grounds and loss of revenue
Other countries do not understand or comprehend our sectarian problem
It is engrained in our society
It is encouraged by the bigot brothers for their own financial gain and they are happy to call out everyone else apart from themselves even although the whole of Scotland knows they are the two main protagonists
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05-06-2019 07:54 AM #19
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We’d incur fines every time we had a big game because people would continue to be unable to behave themselves.
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05-06-2019 08:53 AM #20
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If it's not the answer then what is? What is Doncaster going to do to stop sectarian hate being spewed every Saturday by thousands?
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05-06-2019 08:57 AM #21This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
What countries have strict liability and does it work? Germany have and there's pyro all the time.
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05-06-2019 11:36 AM #22
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I don't want strict liability as I want to go on the pitch again when we complete the treble next may.
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Dortmund had a section of their ground closed a couple of years back because the Ultras that inhabit part of that section attacked innocent men, women and children before a game against RB Leipzig. The club were also fined 100k Euros
Story Here
It was considered heavy handed by many but sent out a very powerful message that such behaviour won't be tolerated.
I wish our footballing authorities had the balls do do something like that.
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05-06-2019 01:30 PM #24
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It is up to the police to enforce the law not clubs. Clubs can do their part but it will only help so far.
The police could apply to refuse licences for stands due to the behaviour of supporters. Even just for a game or two. That would put the wind up the support and perhaps begin to change attitudes.
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If a group of hardcore ultras/fanatics/hooligans physically attack a group of innocent opposing supporters they should be put through the courts, not closing a wee section of their stand.
Let's be honest the worst thing to happen in Scotland on a weekly basis is a few dodgy chants. If strict liability was brought in there is no chance we're seeing fines and ground closures for singing BJK, up the ra/uda or the billy boys.
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