The EU Referendum (How did you vote?)

[Fife-Hibee]

Thought we could get an early snap shot of things to come. Based on this totally scientific and ultra accurate polling method.

[makaveli1875]

Didnt bother registering to vote for it , if i had probably the Brexit party

[James310]

Are there any SNP voters who voted Leave? Who are you voting for?

Must be a fair few on here as was over 30% of SNP voters that also voted Leave.

[SHODAN]

Not voted yet, but will be either SNP or Green - whoever is most likely to stop the BP getting representation in Scotland.

[Pretty Boy]

Greens for me today and most likely for the foreseeable future.

[Hibbyradge]

I voted Liberal as I have in every election since I moved here.

I considered moving back to Labour but Tornado70 put me off them with his incessant soundbites, bombast and trolling.

[Fife-Hibee]

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Not voted yet, but will be either SNP or Green - whoever is most likely to stop the BP getting representation in Scotland.

That would be the SNP (1st place) by far. In fact, if every Green voter in Scotland voted SNP instead, then the Brexit Party would barely get a sniff. But because a portion of the pro-EU votes are going to the Greens (5th place) and the Lib Dems (6th place). The SNP don't gain those valuable votes and it helps the Brexit Party (2nd place) to gain seats.

[Fife-Hibee]

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I voted Liberal as I have in every election since I moved here.

I considered moving back to Labour but Tornado70 put me off them with his incessant soundbites, bombast and trolling.

Why didn't you just vote for the Brexit Party?

[JeMeSouviens]

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Not voted yet, but will be either SNP or Green - whoever is most likely to stop the BP getting representation in Scotland.

I don't think it's worth trying to worry about the tactical aspect of this election. It's fiendishly difficult to game this system, eg. last time out UKIP barely got the last seat. A small shift SNP->Green would've beaten them but actually even with the d'Hondt divisor thing happening, an even smaller shift of Green->SNP would also have beaten them.

If you want to stop the BP, the absolute best thing you can do is get as many of your friends and family to the polls as you can. Turnout is their enemy.

Latest full scale Scottish poll from the weekend:

SNP 38
Lab 16
Brex 16
Con 11
Lib 10
Grn 4
UKIP 2
CUK 2

I think that would equate to SNP 3, Lab 1, Brex 1, Con 1.

[Hibbyradge]

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Why didn't you just vote for the Brexit Party?

What a inane question.

[marinello59]

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That would be the SNP (1st place) by far. In fact, if every Green voter in Scotland voted SNP instead, then the Brexit Party would barely get a sniff. But because a portion of the pro-EU votes are going to the Greens (5th place) and the Lib Dems (6th place). The SNP don't gain those valuable votes and it helps the Brexit Party (2nd place) to gain seats.

How about if every SNP voter went Green instead then?

[Bristolhibby]

Live in the South West of England.

Lib Dem for me. Used to vote Labour in European Elections because the regional PR of it meant my votes pulled into Bristol, Plymouth and everyone else in the rest of the South West who lives in a locked in Lib Dem or Tory seat.

My first ever election was the European Elections in 1999.

Lib Dem’s align with my thinking at the movement (STOP BREXIT). And TBH, it’s normally them or Tory who get in in my Chippenham constituency, and there’s no way I’m ever voting Tory, so Lib Dem it is.

That all said, if Corbyn had of confirmed a confirmatory vote on Brexit, I’d have voted Labour.

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[Smartie]

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Are there any SNP voters who voted Leave? Who are you voting for?

Must be a fair few on here as was over 30% of SNP voters that also voted Leave.

SNP presumably?

I almost didn't vote in the EU referendum, I cared and knew a lot less about it at that point than I care and know now (I voted remain but "project fear" hardly put forward a great case for remaining, even if it was fractionally more credible than bull**** on buses).

It would be interesting to know what has become of the SNP/ Leave group of voters over the past few years, as I imagine they are probably the group of voters most likely to have changed their standpoint ahead of any "people's vote".

[Fife-Hibee]

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How about if every SNP voter went Green instead then?

True. But that's not realistically going to happen. Makes more sense to ask a small minority of people to lend their vote, than a huge minority.

If enough people vote Green/LibDem instead, then I can see the outcome being something like SNP 3 Brexit Party 2 Conservatives 1. When it could have been SNP 4 or 5.

[Smartie]

What makes everyone think the Brexit party will get such a big vote in Scotland?

Hunny McHunface?

[Fife-Hibee]

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SNP presumably?

I almost didn't vote in the EU referendum, I cared and knew a lot less about it at that point than I care and know now (I voted remain but "project fear" hardly put forward a great case for remaining, even if it was fractionally more credible than bull**** on buses).

It would be interesting to know what has become of the SNP/ Leave group of voters over the past few years, as I imagine they are probably the group of voters most likely to have changed their standpoint ahead of any "people's vote".

I find it interesting that the "36% of SNP voters voted leave" line get's touted out a lot in the media. But never any statistic of what % of Labour voters in Scotland voted for remain. They will more than likely vote Lib Dem in this election though, helping the brexit party gain seats.

[marinello59]

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What makes everyone think the Brexit party will get such a big vote in Scotland?

Hunny McHunface?

35% of Scots voted leave. Many of them were SNP suppprters.

[JeMeSouviens]

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SNP presumably?

I almost didn't vote in the EU referendum, I cared and knew a lot less about it at that point than I care and know now (I voted remain but "project fear" hardly put forward a great case for remaining, even if it was fractionally more credible than bull**** on buses).

It would be interesting to know what has become of the SNP/ Leave group of voters over the past few years, as I imagine they are probably the group of voters most likely to have changed their standpoint ahead of any "people's vote".

The angle he's for is oh look, SNP supporters want Brexit/will vote for Farage, isn't Scotland just as Eurosceptic as England*? blah, blah.


* spoiler alert - no it's not, by a considerable margin.

[Fife-Hibee]

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35% of Scots voted leave. Many of them were SNP suppprters.

The rest voted to remain. Many of them were not SNP supporters.

Why does this get ignored?

[Sylar]

I actually struggled to place an X accordingly today.

As an anti-Brexit, anti-Independence voter that vowed never to vote Lib Dem again after they ****ed over generations of students to come, it was a somewhat painful choice. I went Green in the end - well aware they back the SNP's policies on Independence, but as someone who works in climate change research and professionally preaches about the need for progressive green policies at the scale of the EU as well as regionally, that sealed it.

[marinello59]

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The rest voted to remain. Many of them were not SNP supporters.

Why does this get ignored?

It doesn’t.

[Smartie]

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35% of Scots voted leave. Many of them were SNP suppprters.

There's been a fair bit of water under the bridge since then.

Pure hunch, but I'd expect a fair few of them to have switched. The case for the UK Union is far weaker if the Scottish case to remain in the EU is stronger.

The opposite may be true with Unionists, although I would imagine to far lesser extent.

[JeMeSouviens]

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What makes everyone think the Brexit party will get such a big vote in Scotland?

Hunny McHunface?

I think it'll be about half %-wise what they get in England.

[JeMeSouviens]

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35% of Scots voted leave. Many of them were SNP suppprters.

38% actually. Leave is generally getting 25-30% in Scottish polls asking for EU 2nd ref voting intention now.

There is a small core of pro-Indy Eurosceptics. What way they would jump in a post-Brexit indyref2 is one of life's great unknowns.

[McSwanky]

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I don't think it's worth trying to worry about the tactical aspect of this election. It's fiendishly difficult to game this system, eg. last time out UKIP barely got the last seat. A small shift SNP->Green would've beaten them but actually even with the d'Hondt divisor thing happening, an even smaller shift of Green->SNP would also have beaten them.

If you want to stop the BP, the absolute best thing you can do is get as many of your friends and family to the polls as you can. Turnout is their enemy.

Latest full scale Scottish poll from the weekend:

SNP 38
Lab 16
Brex 16
Con 11
Lib 10
Grn 4
UKIP 2
CUK 2

I think that would equate to SNP 3, Lab 1, Brex 1, Con 1.

Don't the Lib Dems get the last seat in that outcome (their 10 beats the SNP's 6 and a third)?

Edit: Nah, ignore me, I'm being daft I think. I may need to go back and read the d'Hondt method properly!!!

Second edit: You were, of course, spot on. Lib Dems aren't far off getting a seat in that scenario, at the expense of the Tories - unless I've worked it out wrong again!

[JeMeSouviens]

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Don't the Lib Dems get the last seat in that outcome (their 10 beats the SNP's 6 and a third)?

1st round

SNP 38
Lab 16
Brex 16
Con 11
Lib 10
Grn 4
UKIP 2
CUK 2

SNP wins


2nd round

SNP 38/2 = 19
Lab 16
Brex 16
Con 11
Lib 10
Grn 4
UKIP 2
CUK 2

SNP wins


3rd round

SNP 38/3 = 12.67
Lab 16
Brex 16
Con 11
Lib 10
Grn 4
UKIP 2
CUK 2

Lab wins


4th round

SNP 38/3 = 12.67
Lab 16/2 = 8
Brex 16
Con 11
Lib 10
Grn 4
UKIP 2
CUK 2

Brex wins (boo!)


5th round

SNP 38/3 = 12.67
Lab 16/2 = 8
Brex 16/2 = 8
Con 11
Lib 10
Grn 4
UKIP 2
CUK 2

SNP wins


6th round

SNP 38/4 = 9.5
Lab 16/2 = 8
Brex 16/2 = 8
Con 11
Lib 10
Grn 4
UKIP 2
CUK 2

Con wins (boo!)

[JeMeSouviens]

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Don't the Lib Dems get the last seat in that outcome (their 10 beats the SNP's 6 and a third)?

Edit: Nah, ignore me, I'm being daft I think. I may need to go back and read the d'Hondt method properly!!!

Second edit: You were, of course, spot on. Lib Dems aren't far off getting a seat in that scenario, at the expense of the Tories - unless I've worked it out wrong again!

Phew, I'm glad we agreed.

[marinello59]

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38% actually. Leave is generally getting 25-30% in Scottish polls asking for EU 2nd ref voting intention now.

There is a small core of pro-Indy Eurosceptics. What way they would jump in a post-Brexit indyref2 is one of life's great unknowns.

In the current climate just imagine what can't possibly happen them assume that it will.

[Lendo]

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What makes everyone think the Brexit party will get such a big vote in Scotland?

Hunny McHunface?

Yep. Thick ****s will vote for them.

[Ozyhibby]

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Are there any SNP voters who voted Leave? Who are you voting for?

Must be a fair few on here as was over 30% of SNP voters that also voted Leave.

I’m an SNP voter who voted leave but have now seen the error of my ways and I’m voting SNP in the hope of stopping brexit.


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