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Thread: Next Scotland Manager
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17-05-2019 09:26 AM #91
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17-05-2019 09:30 AM #92
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17-05-2019 09:46 AM #93This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-05-2019 10:26 AM #94
I guess we will agree to disagree.
Everyone has their own understanding of world class.
I personally see it as looking at the bigger picture - not just a player who hits form surrounded by good players. Many players have had a few good seasons.
But for me for the title of World Class to be given out they need to show consistency playing at the top level (world cup / euros / champions league / domestic league) against equally good players.
That player needs to stand out and be the best if not one of the top 3 in his team.
As I said previously Robertson could arguably be the 4th best Liverpool player - is he better than Trent Alexander as they are very similar and I don't see him being world class.
Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Augero, Pique, Alba, Alves, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets - these are players which have delivered on the world stage continuously.
Bale is a good example - he dragged Wales to major tournaments. Robertson hasn't done this yet and needs to prove he can do this for me if he is to even get close to be given the World Class tag.
There is a shortage of decent left backs right now which isn't his fault but if Robertson is World Class - what was Maldini in his prime / let alone now when you look back on his career ?
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17-05-2019 11:00 AM #95This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-05-2019 11:17 AM #96
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17-05-2019 11:42 AM #97This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-05-2019 11:44 AM #98
The above all proof that the phrase World Class is completely meaningless since people just make up their own rules
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17-05-2019 11:54 AM #99This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-05-2019 12:02 PM #100
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Probably wouldn't be as good as an Italian left back who retired before Andy was even out of school, so not world class, but not bad.
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17-05-2019 12:03 PM #101
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I hate how some idiotic Scots talk down our talent, when it's clear to see from established top football people. It's the idiots fault we're not pulling our weight internationally as much as it is the Doncasters and, recently, Regans of the world.
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17-05-2019 12:19 PM #102This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-05-2019 01:05 PM #103
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I'm English so I've got no affinity or bias towards Liverpool or Scotland. But, you're crazily wrong about Robertson. Apart from Jordi Alba, I'm struggling to think of better left backs in the world. He's by a country mile the best LB in the Prem. I'd take him over any left back England have got as well.
Really not sure how you can compare a left back to a keeper or a striker either.
Out of interest, is there some sort of feature on this board that notifies you if your posts are quoted?
Scotland (with the right system) should be capable of qualifying for a major tournament. Steve Clarke should be given time and the correct backroom support (like England have tried to implement) that runs through all age groups. Your side at the minute has 1 world class player (Robertson), several very good ones (Fraser, Tierney, Cairney ) and then numerous good players who're all capable of performing at this level. You're in a similar position to Wales who're at least trying to tie down promising players who might in the future make a real impact on their side, for example Brookes at Bournemouth who's an excellent player.
EDIT: Comparing him to Maldini, haha. It's like saying Harry Kane is ***** because he's not Thierry Henry.Last edited by MichaelBrown; 17-05-2019 at 01:15 PM.
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17-05-2019 01:42 PM #104
I think the national team has a lot of really good players and have loads of potential
Robertson had 11 assists this season. More than most “world class” midfielders in the EPL.
McGinn was voted players and fans POTY at Villa. Ahead of £40m rated English wonder kid Grealish.
Ryan Fraser was voted fans POTY at Bournemouth. The second most assists in the EPL. He also has Arsenal looking at him.
Calum McGregor was on the shortlist for the Scottish POTY
James Forest was voted POTY in Scotland
The amount of players we have playing regularly in the EPL also.
We just need a manager to can get the right balance. Loads of postitives. I’m sure Michael O’Neil and Mick McCarthy would love to have this squad at their disposal.
Scottish folk are too quick to put the national team. Let’s back them instead.
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17-05-2019 02:39 PM #105
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A half decent manager should be able to make a decent stab of reaching Euro 2020 with this squad.
Scott Bain
Jon McLaughlin
Jordan Archer
Stephen O'Donnell
David Bates
Scott McKenna
Liam Cooper
John Souttar
Kieran Tierney
Andrew Robertson
Matt Ritchie
James Forrest
John McGinn
Callum McGregor
Ryan Christie
Scott McTominay
James Paterson
Tom Cairney
Greame Shinnie
Stuart Armstrong
Ryan Fraser
Kenny McLean
Steven Naismith
Steve Fletcher
Leigh Griffiths
Oliver McBurnie
Matt Phillips
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17-05-2019 05:10 PM #106
Reading between the lines Clarke has the job? Mcinnes rules himself out today and Clarkes assistant releases he would find it hard to turn down on the same day.
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17-05-2019 06:42 PM #107This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Good midfielders but I'd say that's a piss poor forwards selection
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17-05-2019 06:44 PM #108
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17-05-2019 09:58 PM #111
So Steve Clarke is the new Scotland manager.
Not sure I am too comfy with this, there’s no doubting he has over achieved with Killie based on league position.
But, it appears to me that he is taking it for the wrong reasons, he wants to move back down south with his family and therefore can’t have the full time day to day running of a club therefore the national job fits in with that agenda for him.
He is managing at the highest level as international manager, IMO, he should at least be based in the country of the team he manages and not taking it in because it is s better fit for him than club football.
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He’s done a fantastic job at Killie and if he can translate that to the Scotland job then terrific. For now though it feels to me like he’s taken this one as he got overlooked for the Fulham job.
Still though, this will be a step up from the Killie job for him and if he does well he’ll be back managing in England within a year or so.
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17-05-2019 10:08 PM #113
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I don’t believe for a second Steve Clarke would take the Scotland job as a stop-gap.
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17-05-2019 10:09 PM #114This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-05-2019 10:54 PM #116
It's really not all that hard to travel back and forward between England and Scotland these days.
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18-05-2019 08:01 AM #118
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To qualify we generally have needed to win one more game than we had, or avoid a shocker of a result. The improvement needed, is not off the scale. Our squad under someone like Clarke, could achieve that.
Imagine all of Hampden singing the McGinn song.
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18-05-2019 09:49 AM #119
I don't see Clarke being based in England as a major issue. He can travel up to take in a couple of games over a weekend and it's easy enough to send him footage of the games up here.
Given how he turned Kilmarnock round he'd be a good choice to improve the current Scotland squad, and as the popular choice will be given more time if results don't go his way initially.Mature, sensible signature required for responsible position. Good prospects for the right candidate. Apply within.
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