Dundee United

**~~Hibeesmad~~** · 12-04-2019 11:15 PM

Watching Dundee United this evening got me interested as to how they managed to get where they are now.

Scottish Cup champions and regular top 6 placing prior to their relegation.

John Souttar, Andy Robertson, Stuart Armstrong, Danny Swanson, David Goodwillie, Scott Allan, Johnny Russell, Jon Daly, Gary Mackay-Stevens, Ryan Gauld, Craig Conway, Nadir Cifcti are all players they have let go over the years. With absolutely no re-investment. Stephen Thompson and his family must have made a fortune.

**Michael** · 12-04-2019 11:37 PM

Didn't McNamara get a massive bonus for each player he sold?

Every decent player was sold far too quickly - probably because they were pocketing the money.

***Diclonius*** · 12-04-2019 11:57 PM

I grew up in Tayside so witnessed a lot of this first hand. Once Stephen Thompson took over the money dried up. They point blank refused to invest in the squad, and then there was that atrocious contract McNamara had - never heard of anything like that before or since.

There's also the fact that they are one of two clubs in a city that's just about big enough to manage one moderately successful club, so their potential fan/investor capital was never going to sustain that level of success long-term.

**hibbydog** · 13-04-2019 03:28 AM

Dundee Uniteds managed decline is so very similar to hibs pre Scottish Cup triumph. They are struggling big time.

With their history and European adventures it’s all a bit Shan.

***Hibernia&Alba*** · 13-04-2019 03:40 AM

They should always be a top flight club; massively underachieving just now.

**AZhibee** · 13-04-2019 04:46 AM

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Watching Dundee United this evening got me interested as to how they managed to get where they are now.

Scottish Cup champions and regular top 6 placing prior to their relegation.

John Souttar, Andy Robertson, Stuart Armstrong, Danny Swanson, David Goodwillie, Scott Allan, Johnny Russell, Jon Daly, Gary Mackay-Stevens, Ryan Gauld, Craig Conway, Nadir Cifcti are all players they have let go over the years. With absolutely no re-investment. Stephen Thompson and his family must have made a fortune.

That’s quite the list of players

**Clarence** · 13-04-2019 05:36 AM

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That’s quite the list of players

Don’t forget Garry Kenneth and his two Scotland caps 🙄

***BILLYHIBS*** · 13-04-2019 06:05 AM

They didn’t give a jot about us tbh

Let them stew in their ain pish

Must be multiple threads on this topic

Done to death on here already

***proud_and_green*** · 13-04-2019 06:13 AM

The league would undoubtedly be better for them being up but there is part of me that is quite pleased that they're suffering now.

I used to work with a Utd fan who was a real pain, always on about how Utd were this great world beating team and sneering at the Hibs. A real se se of Utd entitlement.

Since then I always look to see if they've been beaten and smile if they have.

Prior to that I actually had a wee bit of a soft spot for them.

It is a lesson that repeats though that the strength of the board/owner is as important as the team and manager. It may also just underline how lucky we are to have Sir Tom.

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**~~cleanyman~~** · 13-04-2019 06:22 AM

Fantastic

Doondee United

I hope they stay down there for as long as possible

**stoneyburn hibs** · 13-04-2019 06:42 AM

I don't get the bad feeling towards DU. I'd rather have them in our division than Hamilton or Livingston. They are both here on merit of course but don't have the fan base that utd have.
They're in a right state.

**Del Boy** · 13-04-2019 06:45 AM

Hope they get back up this season. Much bigger club than crap like Hamilton and Livingston.

***Viva_Palmeiras*** · 13-04-2019 06:55 AM

It’s the curse of Tannadice...

4 car crashes into the turnstiles - 4.

https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/2014/04/08/search-for-driver-who-hit-wall-at-tannadice/

https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/2014/04/06/police-appeal-after-car-ploughs-into-tannadice-stadium/

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/dundee/147544/car-smashes-into-dundee-uniteds-tannadice-stadium/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-31363726

**Topographic Hibby** · 13-04-2019 07:13 AM

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They point blank refused to invest in the squad, and then there was that atrocious contract McNamara had - never heard of anything like that before or since.

What was so bad about JM’s contract?

**~~calumhibee1~~** · 13-04-2019 07:33 AM

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What was so bad about JM’s contract?

He got a cut of any transfer fees for some peculiar reason.

**Smartie** · 13-04-2019 07:35 AM

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What was so bad about JM’s contract?

He was given a share of the transfer fees they received during a time that many of their good, young players were moving on at a time that was far too soon for the club.

Very dodgy (if true, but it has always been widely reported).

**SChibs** · 13-04-2019 07:51 AM

I'd like to see DU back in the top league. I prefer them rather than Dundee and I'd rather have them than Hamilton or Livi to be honest

***CockneyRebel*** · 13-04-2019 07:52 AM

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He was given a share of the transfer fees they received during a time that many of their good, young players were moving on at a time that was far too soon for the club.
Very dodgy (if true, but it has always been widely reported).

Probably took the job on a modest salary with the Brucie Bonus of the transfer fee % not coming directly from the owner's pocket.

**~~Hibeesmad~~** · 13-04-2019 08:10 AM

Watching them this season I don't think they would beat St Mirren or Hamilton to get promoted

**~~G B Young~~** · 13-04-2019 08:30 AM

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The league would undoubtedly be better for them being up but there is part of me that is quite pleased that they're suffering now.

I used to work with a Utd fan who was a real pain, always on about how Utd were this great world beating team and sneering at the Hibs. A real se se of Utd entitlement.

Since then I always look to see if they've been beaten and smile if they have.

Prior to that I actually had a wee bit of a soft spot for them.

It is a lesson that repeats though that the strength of the board/owner is as important as the team and manager. It may also just underline how lucky we are to have Sir Tom.

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I've experienced similar. Hope they stay down for a fourth consecutive season.

**Topographic Hibby** · 13-04-2019 08:31 AM

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He was given a share of the transfer fees they received during a time that many of their good, young players were moving on at a time that was far too soon for the club.

Very dodgy (if true, but it has always been widely reported).

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He got a cut of any transfer fees for some peculiar reason.

Thanks, didn't know that one . Well dodgy by the sounds of things.

**Nicho87** · 13-04-2019 08:45 AM

For me it’s very much similar what happened to hibs. Had a good young team with plenty of promise and attacking talent. Eventually sold them all, replaced them with journeyman. No upcoming talent through to replace them. One or two dinosaurs appointments as managers and relegation. Not shocked.

**Michael** · 13-04-2019 08:47 AM

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For me it’s very much similar what happened to hibs. Had a good young team with plenty of promise and attacking talent. Eventually sold them all, replaced them with journeyman. No upcoming talent through to replace them. One or two dinosaurs appointments as managers and relegation. Not shocked.

At least we had a stand, training center and financial stability to show for it though.

Dundee United have literally nothing from their golden generation.

***Eyrie*** · 13-04-2019 09:20 AM

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Watching them this season I don't think they would beat St Mirren or Hamilton to get promoted

Friend is a Dundee United fan and not optimistic about their chances of getting up through the play offs. Decent guy so I'd like to see them do it.

**where'stheslope** · 13-04-2019 09:42 AM

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At least we had a stand, training center and financial stability to show for it though.

Dundee United have literally nothing from their golden generation.

Except for the Fair Play stand!!!

**Since452** · 13-04-2019 11:02 AM

I'd love to swap Hamilton and Livingston for Dundee United and Dunfermline. Decent fanbase at those clubs.

***Bostonhibby*** · 13-04-2019 01:39 PM

Want to see them back in the top flight replacing any of the teams with an artificial pitch.

I worked with a United fan when mercer tried to kill us off and the guy was as distraught about it all as i was, very supportive and I've never forgotten it.

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**lyonhibs** · 13-04-2019 01:49 PM

United's travails are funny and, after 98, satisfying in a way. But let's not pretend that Scottish fitbaw doesn't benefit from 2 decent Dundee teams. Would sooner they were back than having Livi in the top league ffs