Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

***Stevie Reid*** · 08-08-2018 11:34 AM

I think it's a bit of common sense tbh. The kick was petulant, not violent - it wasn't excessive force and he wasn't trying to hurt or injure McKenna; who used a great deal more force on Morelos.

No issue with it being downgraded to a yellow.

**~~Deansy~~** · 08-08-2018 11:36 AM

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I see the red card for Morelos has been rescinded.

No great surprise - it's the Hun, the hard-done-by club !

**Springbank** · 08-08-2018 11:39 AM

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Seemingly Simon Jordan said on Talk Sport this morning, that he knows that Rangers have access to a “Honey” fund
Wonder who’s backing them, if this is the case

a hunny fund?

Stevie G was right - I cant believe talkSPORT let that kind of sectarian banter on the radio in the 21st Century

**GloryGlory** · 08-08-2018 11:39 AM

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The good news is that you can now kick your opponents and just get a yellow card. Seems a strange decision which I am sure will come back and bite the authorities on the butt cheeks.

I'd love to see the reaction if Scott Brown did something similar to one of The Rangers players in an Old Firm game.

***Smartie*** · 08-08-2018 11:47 AM

It's a first victory for Stevie G - his comments about the poor victimised Rangers nobbled the authorities into a corner where this was the only reasonable outcome.

The downside for them is that they will have Morelos available for next week.

**PatHead** · 08-08-2018 11:52 AM

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It's a first victory for Stevie G - his comments about the poor victimised Rangers nobbled the authorities into a corner where this was the only reasonable outcome.

The downside is that the have Morelos available for next week.

Don’t think reasonable is the right word but I know what you mean.

***Smartie*** · 08-08-2018 11:53 AM

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Don’t think reasonable is the right word but I know what you mean.

I think inevitable was the word I was looking for rather than reasonable.

**Ralphy C** · 08-08-2018 12:07 PM

[QUOTE=Stevie Reid;5503335]I think it's a bit of common sense tbh. The kick was petulant, not violent - it wasn't excessive force and he wasn't trying to hurt or injure McKenna; who used a great deal more force on Morelos.

I would be fuming if i was that linesman, Morelos kicked the defender off the ball, the fact that it wasnt a very good kick is here nor there, have the officials now got to figure out what his exact intent was with a violent conduct decision?

**ancient hibee** · 08-08-2018 12:15 PM

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I think it's a bit of common sense tbh. The kick was petulant, not violent - it wasn't excessive force and he wasn't trying to hurt or injure McKenna; who used a great deal more force on Morelos.

I would be fuming if i was that linesman, Morelos kicked the defender off the ball, the fact that it wasnt a very good kick is here nor there, have the officials now got to figure out what his exact intent was with a violent conduct decision?

Of course they have to.How can you be sent off for violent conduct if you don’t establish if it was violent.I would have been enraged if one of our players had been sent off for that particularly when McKenna got off after having started it.

**GloryGlory** · 08-08-2018 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevie Reid

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I think it's a bit of common sense tbh. The kick was petulant, not violent - it wasn't excessive force and he wasn't trying to hurt or injure McKenna; who used a great deal more force on Morelos.

I would be fuming if i was that linesman, Morelos kicked the defender off the ball, the fact that it wasnt a very good kick is here nor there, have the officials now got to figure out what his exact intent was with a violent conduct decision?

I was always under the impression that intent was the key issue - so even if it was a fresh air shot, aiming a kick at another player is violent conduct.

**Ralphy C** · 08-08-2018 12:26 PM

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Of course they have to.How can you be sent off for violent conduct if you don’t establish if it was violent.I would have been enraged if one of our players had been sent off for that particularly when McKenna got off after having started it.

He kicked him off the ball, how could that possibly not be violent. I thought it was soft at the time but once its given and you decide to review it the only decision to make is did he kick out and clearly he did.

***CentreLine*** · 08-08-2018 12:26 PM

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I was always under the impression that intent was the key issue - so even if it was a fresh air shot, aiming a kick at another player is violent conduct.

Well remember John O’Neil sent off for exactly that. Fresh air shot. Hibs appealed as his lace was undone on his boot. Think we claimed he was trying to free his foot from the lace 😂
Maybe he was but appeal was rejected

But now clearly it’s okay to lash out at an opponent. Let’s see how they treat the other 11 clubs

***Moulin Yarns*** · 08-08-2018 01:54 PM

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Seemingly Simon Jordan said on Talk Sport this morning, that he knows that Rangers have access to a “Honey” fund
Wonder who’s backing them, if this is the case

I always knew Winnie The Pooh was a bear

**Springbank** · 08-08-2018 01:57 PM

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I always knew Winnie The Pooh was a bear

The Rangers Winnie the Pooh

The Hibs winnie The Cup

21st May Haiku

***Moulin Yarns*** · 08-08-2018 02:59 PM

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The Rangers Winnie the Pooh

The Hibs winnie The Cup

21st May Haiku

***Scorrie*** · 08-08-2018 05:25 PM

Just seen on Twitter that West Brom have put a bid in for Tavernier

***Hibernia&Alba*** · 08-08-2018 05:27 PM

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Just seen on Twitter that West Brom have put a bid in for Tavernier

Aye, and Windass also, reportedly. £5 million for the two.

Correction, Ipswich have bid for Windass, allegedly. £2 million.

***Billy Whizz*** · 08-08-2018 05:38 PM

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Aye, and Windass also, reportedly. £5 million for the two.

Correction, Ipswich have bid for Windass, allegedly. £2 million.

Rangers have knocked back the Tavernier bid

***Hibernia&Alba*** · 08-08-2018 05:41 PM

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Rangers have knocked back the Tavernier bid

Thought they might. I think it's a decent offer, but would guess they are looking for around £5 million. It will be interesting to see if West Brom bid again.

**The Green Goblin** · 08-08-2018 06:40 PM

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Seemingly Simon Jordan said on Talk Sport this morning, that he knows that Rangers have access to a “Honey” fund
Wonder who’s backing them, if this is the case

The DUP?

**ancient hibee** · 08-08-2018 07:25 PM

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Aye, and Windass also, reportedly. £5 million for the two.

Correction, Ipswich have bid for Windass, allegedly. £2 million.

I've watched football for a long time but I've given up trying to understand why English clubs think that OF players must be worth big money.It's become worse of course because of the money available down there-but Windass £2M -jeez.

**PatHead** · 08-08-2018 07:38 PM

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I've watched football for a long time but I've given up trying to understand why English clubs think that OF players must be worth big money.It's become worse of course because of the money available down there-but Windass £2M -jeez.

And Tavernier is one of the most over-rated full backs ever. He cannot defend. How the hell they will get more for him than we get for SJM is baffling.

***Hibernia&Alba*** · 08-08-2018 07:44 PM

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And Tavernier is one of the most over-rated full backs ever. He cannot defend. How the hell they will get more for him than we get for SJM is baffling.

Only because he's an Old Firm player, so gets a premium fee. If he were a Hibs player, we'd be lucky to get £1 million.

***Keith_M*** · 08-08-2018 07:47 PM

The Rangers have already denied any 'mystery benefactor' with 'significant funds'.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 08-08-2018 07:50 PM

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The Rangers have already denied any 'mystery benefactor' with 'significant funds'.

The mysterious benefactors are Ipswich et al

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***Smartie*** · 08-08-2018 07:50 PM

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I've watched football for a long time but I've given up trying to understand why English clubs think that OF players must be worth big money.It's become worse of course because of the money available down there-but Windass £2M -jeez.

I think Windass is a pretty good player.

He's certainly Sevco's best attacking threat, and far more likely to be worth £2m than Morelos.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 08-08-2018 08:13 PM

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I think Windass is a pretty good player.

He's certainly Sevco's best attacking threat, and far more likely to be worth £2m than Morelos.

I do, and Tavernier is a good player too, albeit as a wingback. He's asked to get forward like a winger, and obviously will leave gaps in behind him for players to exploit.

I'd take both at Hibs.

***Brunswickbill*** · 10-08-2018 12:14 PM

Good news for Sevco supporters. They can keep up their boycott of Sports Direct by buying their kit at House of Fraser.

**Springbank** · 10-08-2018 12:54 PM

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I do, and Tavernier is a good player too, albeit as a wingback. He's asked to get forward like a winger, and obviously will leave gaps in behind him for players to exploit.

I'd take both at Hibs.

JT was our 12th man on 21st may 2016

Loved watching him get rag-dolled by Stokesy all afternoon

We should give him a testimonial