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    537 52.85%
  • Opposed - but will continue to support the game.

    454 44.69%
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Not condoning the behaviour of these West Coast Scotland fans, but they were no doubt goaded by Hibs in some manner.

    Obviously they can’t be Rangers fans as the article would have said so.

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    Wait til Stevie G is handing out the communion, there will be statements and flutes being thrown in all directions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    So this national newspaper has reverted to calling bigots trolls? That will help, lessening the crime to internet trolling rather than full on bigotry


    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

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    I wonder what football team these peepul support.


    Some comments on Follow Follow

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    "Another concerted effort across SMSM to discredit Rangers and our supporters
    3 negative stories in 2 days is no coincidence
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    Traynor needs to up his game or be replaced"

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    "Wow, talk about a coordinated assault. What’s that, three negative stories and counting since the SG announcement? I think they know a light is about to be shone on TGFITW and the tinpot administrators of our game. Solution - throw as much ***** as possible at Rangers to try and set the agenda - us bad, Timmy good.

    We need an aggressive, experienced, respected PR guy as much as we need a centre half right now."


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    "Is it our social media whoppers or a fake account by tims causing us grief? A mixture of both probably. Still sad that a players life away from the pitch is an issue as long as he’s not doing something that affects his performance for our club. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Morally wrong, for sure, but I get the legal thinking. Simply put, the new company bought the assets of the old company, but not the liabilities.

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    This is wee boys we are talking about here not bits of paper or even money. They cannot opt out of duty of care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgl07 View Post
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    I don't believe it!

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    It's the "they" that is the important thing to them and the lawyers, though. Legally, it wasn't the current company. So not "them".

    That said, the more I think about it, a duty of care to one's employees...and former employees....must follow on to a new employer under TUPE regulations.

    Any employment lawyers about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    It's the "they" that is the important thing to them and the lawyers, though. Legally, it wasn't the current company. So not "them".

    That said, the more I think about it, a duty of care to one's employees...and former employees....must follow on to a new employer under TUPE regulations.

    Any employment lawyers about?

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    If it was a conventional TUPE then the transference applies to all employees at the time of the TUPE. Going forward employees are on whatever arrangements the new business chooses to offer, in my experience.

    Not an employment lawyer but have had to endure their advice etc...through several TUPE arrangements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    I wonder what football team these peepul support.


    Some comments on Follow Follow

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    "Another concerted effort across SMSM to discredit Rangers and our supporters
    3 negative stories in 2 days is no coincidence
    ...
    Traynor needs to up his game or be replaced"

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    "Wow, talk about a coordinated assault. What’s that, three negative stories and counting since the SG announcement? I think they know a light is about to be shone on TGFITW and the tinpot administrators of our game. Solution - throw as much ***** as possible at Rangers to try and set the agenda - us bad, Timmy good.

    We need an aggressive, experienced, respected PR guy as much as we need a centre half right now."


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    "Is it our social media whoppers or a fake account by tims causing us grief? A mixture of both probably. Still sad that a players life away from the pitch is an issue as long as he’s not doing something that affects his performance for our club. "

    I hope there are some voices of reason on there who are calling these comments out.

    For a support who like to claim ‘Big Jock Knew’ they are remarkably quick to sweep any claims of abuse at rangers under the carpet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    If it was a conventional TUPE then the transference applies to all employees at the time of the TUPE. Going forward employees are on whatever arrangements the new business chooses to offer, in my experience.

    Not an employment lawyer but have had to endure their advice etc...through several TUPE arrangements.

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    Thanks.

    I'm not clear on this lad's story, but it seems that he was on their books a long time before the insolvency. Hence TUPE wouldn't apply.

    Still... somebody out there might be keen to take them on. I'm guessing the Resolution 12 guys would already have put the call out......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    I hope there are some voices of reason on there who are calling these comments out.

    For a support who like to claim ‘Big Jock Knew’ they are remarkably quick to sweep any claims of abuse at rangers under the carpet...

    There are some, but most are using whitabootery as a defence

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    Thanks.

    I'm not clear on this lad's story, but it seems that he was on their books a long time before the insolvency. Hence TUPE wouldn't apply.

    Still... somebody out there might be keen to take them on. I'm guessing the Resolution 12 guys would already have put the call out......
    The problem with the whole debacle is that they've fought tooth and nail to keep the history.... But will only take the good bits.
    Having this abuser on their books is as much part of their history as winning a trophy at some point in the 80s.


    The argument is that the club is separate from the company but it's the same club it always has been etc....

    Well then, its the club that has responsibility. They shouldn't be afraid to meet victims, hear them out with courtesy and provide a measure of dignity. That is ultimately what is desired - whatever about a financial claim going in against the liquidators and the old co.

    It is reprensible to try and pass this particular boy onto the liquidators of old co.....
    And to deny a victim (who is a season ticket holder, and presumably been on their books for a period of time) an opportunity to meet and talk About what had happened to him (while in the care of the club) is the most abhorrent and genuinely disgusting part of this entire sorry saga.

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    Just heard they've signed McGregor...luckily it's Alan not Darren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    Just heard they've signed McGregor...luckily it's Alan not Darren.
    but....but... he was supposed to go to the Gorgie galacticos - he was to be unveiled the same day as McGeoch!!

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    "It is vital matters are dealt with sensitively and with proper care and regard for those involved'

    But then follow up with -

    "We will not respond to questions that seek to turn allegations of desperate and deplorable conduct from three or more decades ago into cheap and nasty attacks on Rangers Football Club, and those of its employees who now have to attend to such difficult matters."

    Traynor using sexual-abuse to reinforce their 'Us Against The World' campaign - every time you think that Traynor/Huns have reached rock-bottom and can't dig any lower they finds another shovel !. Making it worse (but not surprising) is the total lack of response from the SMSM in calling him/Hun out for it - absolutely pathetic !

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    10 years on, the Manchester Evening News looks back fondly on the festival of frolics that was Old Rangers' visit to the city for the UEFA cup final:

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...s-one-14667382

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    10 years on, the Manchester Evening News looks back fondly on the festival of frolics that was Old Rangers' visit to the city for the UEFA cup final:

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...s-one-14667382
    Sc*um? Animals? morons? There are no words to describe that lot

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    Sc*um? Animals? morons? There are no words to describe that lot
    Those 3 aren't a bad start but "Huns" has come to define them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe6-2 View Post
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    Sc*um? Animals? morons? There are no words to describe that lot
    Hey! Don't insult animals by comparing that gutter crap with them! ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    10 years on, the Manchester Evening News looks back fondly on the festival of frolics that was Old Rangers' visit to the city for the UEFA cup final:

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...s-one-14667382
    Absolutely laughable the deflection of the MSM up here, utterly shameful scenes and a complete disgrace however pretty much par for the course for that club when visiting England. It was Chelsea fans dont you know. I can remember being in Glasgow the day after and the newspaper sellers had the evening times a headline of, Policeman saved by Rangers fan. You honestly couldnt make it up the complete protection and favouritism that club gets.

    The guy from channel 4 news was the only one with the backbone to call it as he saw about Rangers and their succulent lamb press pals. Scotlands shame right enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    10 years on, the Manchester Evening News looks back fondly on the festival of frolics that was Old Rangers' visit to the city for the UEFA cup final:

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...s-one-14667382

    Invading Hun Hordes?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    Invading Hun Hordes?


    I'm sorry, I have to protest at this.
    What did Attila and his friends ever do to be compared to this lot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    10 years on, the Manchester Evening News looks back fondly on the festival of frolics that was Old Rangers' visit to the city for the UEFA cup final:

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...s-one-14667382

    I'm not even going to click on the gallery link because I really don't want to see more images of the carnage these sub-humans inflicted on Manchester

    On a happier note it just makes me feel that the happiest day of my life was two years ago when SDG scored the winner against these **** gits

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    I'm not even going to click on the gallery link because I really don't want to see more images of the carnage these sub-humans inflicted on Manchester

    On a happier note it just makes me feel that the happiest day of my life was two years ago when SDG scored the winner against these **** gits
    Absolutely amazing it’s almost two years ago!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    10 years on, the Manchester Evening News looks back fondly on the festival of frolics that was Old Rangers' visit to the city for the UEFA cup final:

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...s-one-14667382

    '............ a big screen failed shortly before kick off - the council later said it could have been fixed, but Rangers yobs started throwing bottles at technicians'


    So they're there to watch their team play in a European final, the screen fails so their logic is to attack the very people trying to fix the screen so that they could watch it ........................... genius, just absolute genius !

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    10 years on, the Manchester Evening News looks back fondly on the festival of frolics that was Old Rangers' visit to the city for the UEFA cup final:

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...s-one-14667382
    Minority ffs 😂😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    10 years on, the Manchester Evening News looks back fondly on the festival of frolics that was Old Rangers' visit to the city for the UEFA cup final:

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...s-one-14667382
    Oldco... Nothing to see here #statementincoming

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