Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

***Ozyhibby*** · 15-05-2018 02:40 PM

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***greenginger*** · 15-05-2018 02:47 PM

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Rangers statement ......

But but ...... we're no the same Club !

***JimBHibees*** · 15-05-2018 02:47 PM

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"Regardless of the outcome, UEFA are unlikely to take any action over the matter, having a five-year limit on dealing with historic cases".

Hmm how convenient.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 15-05-2018 02:47 PM

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Cheers, Oz.

Any ideas what the penalties might be?

And, can you remember (I know you can...) who missed out on qualification that year? Was it us?

***green day*** · 15-05-2018 02:48 PM

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Last line, Uefa has a 5 year limit on dealing with breaches - convenient...........

***CropleyWasGod*** · 15-05-2018 02:49 PM

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Last line, Uefa has a 5 year limit on dealing with breaches - convenient...........

Presumably, though, the SFA can take action.

***green day*** · 15-05-2018 02:51 PM

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Presumably, though, the SFA can take action.

Cue Traynor arguing that they cant be punished as they are a different club

***Ozyhibby*** · 15-05-2018 02:53 PM

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Cheers, Oz.

Any ideas what the penalties might be?

And, can you remember (I know you can...) who missed out on qualification that year? Was it us?

Kilmarnock missed out on Europa league and Celtic missed out on champions league.

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***Ozyhibby*** · 15-05-2018 02:54 PM

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Last line, Uefa has a 5 year limit on dealing with breaches - convenient...........

They have a 5 year limit on breaches but this is fraud. There was deliberate concealment and UEFA have no time limit on that.

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**JeMeSouviens** · 15-05-2018 02:55 PM

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Cheers, Oz.

Any ideas what the penalties might be?

And, can you remember (I know you can...) who missed out on qualification that year? Was it us?

The link says ...

Sanctions for the second rule breach range from a £1,000 fine up to "£5,000,000 and/or ejection from the Scottish Cup and/or exclusion from the Scottish Cup and/or any player registration restrictions and/or suspension and/or termination of membership and/or any sanction or disposal not expressly provided above".

I think we can all guess which end of that scale it'll be.

Or we might get another transfer ban that only applies outside transfer windows.

**JeMeSouviens** · 15-05-2018 02:56 PM

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Cue Traynor arguing that they cant be punished as they are a different club

They have already accepted the sins of their non-zombie forebears are theirs when it comes to footballing matters - part of the 5 way agreement.

***Newry Hibs*** · 15-05-2018 02:58 PM

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Cheers, Oz.

Any ideas what the penalties might be?

And, can you remember (I know you can...) who missed out on qualification that year? Was it us?

from the article ...
Sanctions for the second rule breach range from a £1,000 fine up to "£5,000,000 and/or ejection from the Scottish Cup and/or exclusion from the Scottish Cup and/or any player registration restrictions and/or suspension and/or termination of membership and/or any sanction or disposal not expressly provided above".

So that will be a £1000 fine then. Payable only if they feel like it.

Beaten to it .....

***green day*** · 15-05-2018 03:03 PM

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They have a 5 year limit on breaches but this is fraud. There was deliberate concealment and UEFA have no time limit on that.

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Cool - thats interesting, King must be absolutely kacking it because - as we know - his entire strategy is based on Europe.

I thought it was time to put the popcorn away too

***CropleyWasGod*** · 15-05-2018 03:05 PM

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from the article ...
Sanctions for the second rule breach range from a £1,000 fine up to "£5,000,000 and/or ejection from the Scottish Cup and/or exclusion from the Scottish Cup and/or any player registration restrictions and/or suspension and/or termination of membership and/or any sanction or disposal not expressly provided above".

So that will be a £1000 fine then. Payable only if they feel like it.

Beaten to it .....

Cheers. Didn't read it properly.

But no withdrawal of a UEFA licence? Bugger....

**ancient hibee** · 15-05-2018 03:07 PM

Now it all depends on how Lawell instructs his man at the SFA.

***grunt*** · 15-05-2018 03:37 PM

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"Regardless of the outcome, UEFA are unlikely to take any action over the matter, having a five-year limit on dealing with historic cases".

Hmm how convenient.

My thoughts exactly.

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They have a 5 year limit on breaches but this is fraud. There was deliberate concealment and UEFA have no time limit on that.

Well ...

**JeMeSouviens** · 15-05-2018 03:45 PM

Bound to be a statement.

***Ozyhibby*** · 15-05-2018 03:50 PM

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Bound to be a statement.

Surely too late to overhaul the yams for the statement league title now.

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***Ozyhibby*** · 15-05-2018 03:52 PM

BBC doing its best to make this sound like a minor technical breach of an obscure rule.

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***grunt*** · 15-05-2018 03:54 PM

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Bound to be a statement.

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THE Rangers Football Club (“the Club”) was informed today by the Scottish FA (“SFA”) that, after an eight-and-a-half month investigation, the SFA will not be proceeding with a Notice of Complaint in respect of the submission made by the Club to the SFA at the end of March 2011 with regard to the issue of the Club’s UEFA licence for the following Season.The Club is unsurprised that it has now finally been accepted by the SFA that the accusations made against the Club were groundless. The Club questions whether the time, cost and expense of this investigation was justified and was a good use of the SFA’s limited resources.Disappointingly, and presumably rather than accept that the investigation was a waste of all parties’ time and resources, the Club has been served with a new revised Notice of Complaint relating to the monitoring period subsequent to the grant of the UEFA licence. This new Notice of Complaint neglects to properly capture the provisions of prior agreements made between the Club and the SFA.The Club will fiercely resist this reconstructed Notice of Complaint. Unfortunately, monies that should be available to Scottish youth and grassroots football will be diverted into another rehearsal of seven-year-old debates on the rights and wrongs of events that the SFA should have prevented at a time when doing so would have served a useful purpose.It seems that Scottish Football is, once again, being directed by individuals intent on harming the Scottish game, Rangers Football Club and its supporters by pursuing a course that has no sensible purpose or reasonable prospect of success.

They are blaming the SFA for not picking it up first time!!!

***Bishop Hibee*** · 15-05-2018 03:58 PM

BBC website story is almost incomprehensible. Get the Plain English Campaign to have a look at it.

The statement is a beauty though 😂

**JeMeSouviens** · 15-05-2018 03:59 PM

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They are blaming the SFA for not picking it up first time!!!
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To be fair, the SFA were at best negligent and given the presence of Messrs Ogilvie, Dickson, Bryson, etc. quite possibly complicit. Doesn't mean the Old Huns weren't cheating *******s mind.

**ballengeich** · 15-05-2018 04:16 PM

I expect serious trouble for a couple of individuals. Craig Whyte's life ban from Scottish football could be doubled, and Stewart Regan will have no future career at the SFA.

**Velma Dinkley** · 15-05-2018 04:32 PM

The Rangers will not be allowed to compete in the Irn-Bru Cup next season.

**Is It On....** · 15-05-2018 04:33 PM

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I expect serious trouble for a couple of individuals. Craig Whyte's life ban from Scottish football could be doubled, and Stewart Regan will have no future career at the SFA.

And how can Alistair Johnson, chairman of old co, possibly be classed as "fit and proper" (decision that is currently "pending") for a position with the SFA?

**HoboHarry** · 15-05-2018 04:33 PM

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I expect serious trouble for a couple of individuals. Craig Whyte's life ban from Scottish football could be doubled, and Stewart Regan will have no future career at the SFA.

May well be problems ahead for Campbell, Bryson and Dickson though if they are found to be complicit.....

**Is It On....** · 15-05-2018 04:36 PM

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"Regardless of the outcome, UEFA are unlikely to take any action over the matter, having a five-year limit on dealing with historic cases".

Hmm how convenient.

Conveniently outside the UEFA 5yr window. There is the small matter of the financial punishment that can range from £1,000 to £5m". The upper number, in the unlikely event it was levied, would take a wee bit out of Stevie Geees transfer kitty 😂

**Is It On....** · 15-05-2018 04:38 PM

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They have already accepted the sins of their non-zombie forebears are theirs when it comes to footballing matters - part of the 5 way agreement.

But but but, nobody has seen the 5-way agreement YET 😁

***.Sean.*** · 15-05-2018 04:44 PM

Can somebody translate what’s going on now in thicko terms as I dinny understand. Thanks in advance

***CropleyWasGod*** · 15-05-2018 04:47 PM

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Can somebody translate what’s going on now in thicko terms as I dinny understand. Thanks in advance

They were granted a licence to play in Europe in 2011.

The allegation is that they shouldn't have been, 'cos they lied in their application.

David Murray dropped them in it when he spoke in Court last year.

They don't like it. We don't care.

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