Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Crazyhorse]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Soon to be known as The Barry Ferguson

Cracker!

[Is It On....]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Ferco?

Barry Ferguson international 2017?

Barry "shafter of the tax payer" Ferguson. Deserves everything he gets which DOES NOT include a role at BBC Radio Scotland!!

[Jonnyboy]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Ferco?

Barry Ferguson international 2017?

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Cracker!

Can't claim it as my own, unfortunately. My brother sent me a text with that in it and it may have come from twitter. Made me laugh though

[Bostonhibby]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Barry "shafted of the tax payer" Ferguson. Deserves everything he gets which DOES NOT include a role at BBC Radio Scotland!!

Indeed hardly the done thing for the public broadcaster to be paying someone who has stiffed the public purse then went bankrupt to avoid being forced to pay what the rest of the honest tax payers do.

Sent from my SM-J320FN using Tapatalk

[CropleyWasGod]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Indeed hardly the done thing for the public broadcaster to be paying someone who has stiffed the public purse then went bankrupt to avoid being forced to pay what the rest of the honest tax payers do.

Sent from my SM-J320FN using Tapatalk

My guess is that it's HMRC who have made him bankrupt.

[ancient hibee]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Appalling if true and our very own RP is involved in it up to his neck.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...heme-1-4512742

Is Rod on the board of the SPFL?

[Bostonhibby]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

My guess is that it's HMRC who have made him bankrupt.

I know you're right but I reserve the right to be outraged and outrageous in my condemnation!

Sent from my SM-J320FN using Tapatalk

[CropleyWasGod]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

I know you're right but I reserve the right to be outraged and outrageous in my condemnation!

Sent from my SM-J320FN using Tapatalk

I've often wondered if there's a smilie for green-tinted glasses. If there's not, there bloody should be

[Bostonhibby]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

I've often wondered if there's a smilie for green-tinted glasses. If there's not, there bloody should be

Would be handy.

Not going to let technicalities get in the way of a bit of ridicule or kicking a hun while he's "down".

Sent from my SM-J320FN using Tapatalk

[Ozyhibby]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Is Rod on the board of the SPFL?

No, he's on the SFA professional game board.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[ancient hibee]

So that means presumably he has no say in what the SPFL board does but does have with the SFA?

[Ozyhibby]

So much for Budge being a breath of fresh air in Scottish football.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[MrSmith]

No f that's the case? I will no longer pay into Scottish Football.

[Kaiser1962]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

So much for Budge being a breath of fresh air in Scottish football.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think they are terrified that they are going to be dragged into this. Lith authorities, as far as I am aware, are still looking for Vlad and a missing £300m and I cant imagine what might come out if they find him. Theres also the matter of UBIG and UKIO, with a combined shareholding of 79% and representatives on the board of directors, being designated as having no links to Hearts therefore carrying the CVA against HMRC. That is essentially the reason they got the CVA and Rangers didn't.

If i was Newhun, or even Oldhun, I would be all over it like a badly fitting suit. I can't for the life of me work out why they're not.

[Bostonhibby]

Are Budge and Robertson two cheeks of the same erse now?

Or just part of the big cover up? Lucky most of us will never need legal advice to understand how the now defunct Glasgow rangers and teams like them really did gain an unfair advantage. The game appears to be over as far as "sporting integrity" is concerned.



Sent from my SM-J320FN using Tapatalk

[brog]

I'm 100% in favour of stripping the titles away but I have some sympathy with those members of the footballing authorities, eg Budgie, who are having to deal with the sins of the past. I can also understand the trepidation some may feel because as we all know, Johnny Hun is not really a rational or intelligent beast when it comes to accepting decisions against them. I do believe there may be a reasonable compromise but I'm not sure the SPFL etc will have the courage to take this action. They could release a statement along the following lines;

We have sought legal advice & regrettably that advice is we do not have the authority to remove league titles & other trophies gained in the period x-y from the team formerly known as Rangers FC. There is no doubt however that as a result of malfeasance on the part of Rangers' management & board, that some of their players were improperly registered at the time these trophies were won. Had that information been available to the governing footballing authorities at that time then Rangers would not have been permitted to play in or would have been expelled from those competitions.

I'm not holding my breath & my draft is a tad provocative but I genuinely believe that a statement in principle along these lines would satisfy nearly everyone bar The Green Brigade!

[MrSmith]

It could also include something along the lines of: "given that Rangers were liquidated in 2012, etc etc ..."

[High-On-Hibs]

"We can't punish them as they are different clubs, pretending to be the same club, while allowing them to have all the tainted trophies and medals gained from the other club".

[The Falcon]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Publication of fabled advice?

While I am not suggesting they sought a legal view down the pub (or the lodge) you get what you pay for is a rule in most affairs of life. We don't know the question that any lawyers were asked to opine on othe context in which it was asked.

If you pay for an opinion you might reasonably have an outcome in mind that you favour and you may be testing it for various reasons - for example the likelihood of if being a persuasive enough argument supported by law and precedent for a court to agree. But you may have no wish or intention to go anywhere near a court and are looking for some form of credible support to justify action or inaction.

It may be wrong to place undue credibility on a legal opinion from an unknown party with no clarity on the point of law asked about. If legal opinions were simply the be all and end all we would not need a civil court system or judges to make decisions.

Or they just keep asking till someone gives the answer they want?

What then needs to be established is that persons qualification to offer guidance on the subject although this cant be checked because they cant name anyone who gave them said advice. It could have been the guy in the garage for all we know, although the guy in the garage would have known any scheme which loans you money which doesn't have to paid back, and that you don't have to pay tax on as long as don't write anything down, might be a bit dodgy.

[Keith_M]

"We have taken advice from our Legal Expert, Mr Donald Findlay, and he has advised us that there are no legal grounds on which to strip 'The Glorious Ranjurs' of any titles. He also mentioned something about the Pope and WeeArraPeepul, but that's another matter..."

[silverhibee]

Boycott Scotland games at hampden.

It would get plenty of publicity around Europe and let the reason behind it made known why it is happening as I'm pretty sure other countries really don't no that our game is being run by corrupt people, FFS, basically comes down to that clubs are feared to upset The Rangers and the corrupt people who allow this to happen also.

Sporting integrity was the cry not that long ago, seems that is not the case now.

[Ozyhibby]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Boycott Scotland games at hampden.

It would get plenty of publicity around Europe and let the reason behind it made known why it is happening as I'm pretty sure other countries really don't no that our game is being run by corrupt people, FFS, basically comes down to that clubs are feared to upset The Rangers and the corrupt people who allow this to happen also.

Sporting integrity was the cry not that long ago, seems that is not the case now.

I'll definitely not be watching any SFA teams from now on.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Geo_1875]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

We have sought legal advice & regrettably that advice is we do not have the authority to remove league titles & other trophies gained in the period x-y from the team formerly known as Rangers FC. There is no doubt however that as a result of malfeasance on the part of Rangers' management & board, that some of their players were improperly registered at the time these trophies were won. Had that information been available to the governing footballing authorities at that time then Rangers would not have been permitted to play in or would have been expelled from those competitions.

Or "They cheated but we're letting them away with it."

[Fuzzywuzzy]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Or "They cheated but we're letting them away with it."

So what are they actually known as now is the were 'formally known as rangers'?

[Bishop Hibee]

While I believe titles should be stripped, I won't be boycotting anything. I'm on record a lot earlier in this thread saying I'd have walked away from Scottish football if Newco had been allowed to re-enter the Premiership and I maintain I would have. Just can't get as worked up this time around.

[High-On-Hibs]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Boycott Scotland games at hampden.

It would get plenty of publicity around Europe and let the reason behind it made known why it is happening as I'm pretty sure other countries really don't no that our game is being run by corrupt people, FFS, basically comes down to that clubs are feared to upset The Rangers and the corrupt people who allow this to happen also.

Sporting integrity was the cry not that long ago, seems that is not the case now.

They may not know that our game is. But i'm sure they'll know that their own game is.

[AndyM_1875]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Boycott Scotland games at hampden.

It would get plenty of publicity around Europe and let the reason behind it made known why it is happening as I'm pretty sure other countries really don't no that our game is being run by corrupt people, FFS, basically comes down to that clubs are feared to upset The Rangers and the corrupt people who allow this to happen also.

Sporting integrity was the cry not that long ago, seems that is not the case now.

No thanks. I enjoy watching Scotland games as do many other Hibbies with all the pain that goes with it.

[Ozyhibby]

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1...cy/?ref=twtrec


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Ozyhibby]

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Pete70]

I can't possibly see now how there will be another enquiry into stripping Rangers of titles etc when the MD of The Rangers has just been elected onto the SPFL board. It now seems every other team (including Hibs) are now burying their head in the sand and hoping the issue just goes away. It's a pity no one in the media has the ba**s to take on the establishment.