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    Quote Originally Posted by 660 View Post
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    I think Hibs will make a statement re sporting integrity without mentioning the titles directly.

    Re hearts, my cringe reflex is getting quite the workout from watching their fans go baw deep in criticising the Huns.
    We need a full enquiry into what happened. The game won't be able to move on without it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    We need a full enquiry into what happened. The game won't be able to move on without it.


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    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Aberdeen bottle it. As they always do.


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    Milne is a disgusting, odious, little creature ! Hasn't he got form for this - issuing a statement that completely contradicts the views and opinions of his own supporters ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deansy View Post
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    Milne is a disgusting, odious, little creature ! Hasn't he got form for this - issuing a statement that completely contradicts the views and opinions of his own supporters ??
    It was him that voted against changing the voting structure away from the 11-1 system in order to get his team a few quid while rangers were out of the top division. He's a snake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deansy View Post
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    Milne is a disgusting, odious, little creature ! Hasn't he got form for this - issuing a statement that completely contradicts the views and opinions of his own supporters ??
    I'd like to hear from Hibs on this soon. Obviously they have stalled us till the board meeting on the 31st but I expect to hear shortly afterwards.
    Last 3 years have been a decent repair job with the Hibs board and the fans. I'd hate to see it all undone.


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    I'd like to hear from Hibs on this soon. Obviously they have stalled us till the board meeting on the 31st but I expect to hear shortly afterwards.
    Last 3 years have been a decent repair job with the Hibs board and the fans. I'd hate to see it all undone.


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    It would be good if that happened. But Petrie is fatally compromised having been part of the shady deals that got us here. Hibs will say nothing about the biggest scandal in Scottish sport. We have record season ticket sales and Petrie, Milne etc just want us all to "move on". Maybe I'm in a small minority that actually feels cheated, and Petrie is right to think if they all stay quiet long enough it will blow over.

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    I think anybody expecting an official statement from Hibs encouraging titles to be stripped is going to be sorely dissapointed.

    The only club that has a genuine interest in that happening is Celtc.

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    I think anybody expecting an official statement from Hibs encouraging titles to be stripped is going to be sorely dissapointed.

    The only club that has a genuine interest in that happening is Celtc.
    Rubbish - anyone with an interest in sport has a genuine interest in this happening!!? If cheating is ok, we may as well not bother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewster View Post
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    Rubbish - anyone with an interest in sport has a genuine interest in this happening!!? If cheating is ok, we may as well not bother!
    That's just it. If the rules only apply to some clubs, then why bother? It's because they think they got away with it before that the new club is currently deliberately spending beyond their means.
    After everything that has happened in Scottish football, for us still not to have proper FFP rules in place domestically is a disgrace.
    This season there is a chance we could be pipped for a European place by a club still spending far beyond their means.
    If Petrie is happy for this to continue then we are as well just watching the EPL on the tele.


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    I don't expect any club other than Celtic to come out publicly in favour of title-stripping. At this stage I think it is just the fans who want this (fans of ALL clubs other than Rangers) although the fans could sway the clubs over time.

    There are too many people within Scottish football clubs who are compromised or who have vested interests. There are also a few too many idiots and cowards both within clubs and within the authorities.

    Self-preservation will be what is keeping most quiet. Most figures will have been up to their necks in it up to the 5-way-agreement being signed and they'll all know that an e-mail trail incriminating them in some way will exist. They will be keen to see that this doesn't come out.

    As it stands, there is little incentive for the chairmen of clubs to be interested. They've got our season ticket money for the coming season and all they'll want to do is to give it time hoping it will all blow over.

    I don't think this is right, I think it is the way it is.

    It will be interesting to see what comes of fan power over the next few months and years though.

    Would be sign up in such large numbers next year if there is more fudging along the way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    That's just it. If the rules only apply to some clubs, then why bother? It's because they think they got away with it before that the new club is currently deliberately spending beyond their means.
    After everything that has happened in Scottish football, for us still not to have proper FFP rules in place domestically is a disgrace.
    This season there is a chance we could be pipped for a European place by a club still spending far beyond their means.
    If Petrie is happy for this to continue then we are as well just watching the EPL on the tele.


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    Yeah the EPL is a great example of financially prudent clubs.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 660 View Post
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    Yeah the EPL is a great example of financially prudent clubs.....
    I know, that's my point.


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    Problem we have for the Hibs board ( if they are not interested in title stripping ) is how the fans will re-act to their Stance.

    Will we except their Apathy towards this or will we genuinely make a stand?
    I think the support will be gutted with the outcome from our board if there is no proper stance and may seriously backfire towards board /fan relationships.

    What is the point of having sporting integrarty if it's not implemented or upheld within the rules? If we don't act we are sending a message to the SFA/SPFL and any other clubs that you don't need to Operate within the rules, so feel free to cheat at your own leisure.

    I would never stop buying a season ticket for Hibs but I would never have confidence again that the games not rigged, so to this end why would I want to actually go to games knowing there may be cheating?
    Before anyone things people who do this are turning their back on their cub I'd say they aren't but the clubs stance is turning their backs on the supporters.

    Now I'm not saying Hibs stance will be like this but I'm begging the board for the sake of our game please don't do an Aberdeen Board and turn your back on the fans wishes but be ruthless and lead the fight to these teams/ chairmen/ directors and make us proud to say we fought for sporting integrarty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southern hibby View Post
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    Problem we have for the Hibs board ( if they are not interested in title stripping ) is how the fans will re-act to their Stance.

    Will we except their Apathy towards this or will we genuinely make a stand?
    I think the support will be gutted with the outcome from our board if there is no proper stance and may seriously backfire towards board /fan relationships.

    What is the point of having sporting integrarty if it's not implemented or upheld within the rules? If we don't act we are sending a message to the SFA/SPFL and any other clubs that you don't need to Operate within the rules, so feel free to cheat at your own leisure.

    I would never stop buying a season ticket for Hibs but I would never have confidence again that the games not rigged, so to this end why would I want to actually go to games knowing there may be cheating?
    Before anyone things people who do this are turning their back on their cub I'd say they aren't but the clubs stance is turning their backs on the supporters.

    Now I'm not saying Hibs stance will be like this but I'm begging the board for the sake of our game please don't do an Aberdeen Board and turn your back on the fans wishes but be ruthless and lead the fight to these teams/ chairmen/ directors and make us proud to say we fought for sporting integrarty.

    GGTTH
    Great post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gerry70 View Post
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    It would be good if that happened. But Petrie is fatally compromised having been part of the shady deals that got us here. Hibs will say nothing about the biggest scandal in Scottish sport. We have record season ticket sales and Petrie, Milne etc just want us all to "move on". Maybe I'm in a small minority that actually feels cheated, and Petrie is right to think if they all stay quiet long enough it will blow over.

    which is exactly what WILL happen, i'd put my last vButton on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by southern hibby View Post
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    What is the point of having sporting integrarty if it's not implemented or upheld within the rules? If we don't act we are sending a message to the SFA/SPFL and any other clubs that you don't need to Operate within the rules, so feel free to cheat at your own leisure.
    Disagree. The message is that The Thes can do anything they want, not that everyone else can.

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    I'd be surprised if Hibs make any statement till after the second league game of the season and for good reason as it will be poisonous enough without throwing petrol on the fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    We need a full enquiry into what happened.

    Enquiry - expensive version {2 years of lawyers fees and spraff from roasters in the pockets of the huns}

    Enquiry - cheap version {Produces example of side-contract. GUILTY!, enquiry closes}

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewster View Post
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    Rubbish - anyone with an interest in sport has a genuine interest in this happening!!? If cheating is ok, we may as well not bother!

    THE SFA/SPL/SPFL have already decided that cheating is OK (for certain clubs).

    I genuinely don't think Hibs will do anything to rock the boat, as they'll consider the grief would outweigh any benefit.

    It's not a matter of principle... it's just business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlex View Post
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    I'd be surprised if Hibs make any statement till after the second league game of the season and for good reason as it will be poisonous enough without throwing petrol on the fire.
    A statement sooner rather than later would best. It's never wrong to do the right thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southsider View Post
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    I hope to God our club shows more balls than Aberdeen. Sporting integrity anyone ?
    Aberdeen. The the huns of the North. The the's fans from there must be creaming themselves. Wonder what the actual Aberdeen fans think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs Class View Post
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    A statement sooner rather than later would best. It's never wrong to do the right thing.
    yiu are right it's never wrong to do the right thing. It may be a mistake doing it before that game tho. As long as the right thing is done.

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    Aberdeen. The the huns of the North. The the's fans from there must be creaming themselves. Wonder what the actual Aberdeen fans think.

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    What a load of rubbish! Not someone again re-cycling this garbage! Say it enough times, someone will believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    What a load of rubbish! Not someone again re-cycling this garbage! Say it enough times, someone will believe it.
    Pertinent to the way milne is playing it.

    You obviously never worked out why I wondered what the actual aberdeen football fans might think?

    Very comfortable with my analogy as far as the latest headline goes.

    Opinions eh. I'm less interested in / emotional about anyone believing what I feel here than you seem to be about your analysis of my motive for posting.

    PS - never given an opinion vis a vis Aberdeen fans and their clubs recent apparent support for the the's so haven't ever recycled whatever you might feel has been recycled here.

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    Aberdeen bottle it. As they always do.


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    What a disgusting Wormtongue piece of orcshiote that Milne is. Dons support must feel like they have been stabbed in the back. **** off out of Scottish football you gutless worthless bald toad.

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    Boards across the country will just be chuffed with the timing.
    The Rangers debacle came to a head before season tickets were being sold and the prospect of boycotts was real

    The court decision has arrived well into the ST sales period and so there is little to worry about for many clubs

    Expect the statements to reflect this level of comfort.

    A question, does anyone know if there are any rules in place now that could lead to the stripping of titles?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Radium View Post
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    Boards across the country will just be chuffed with the timing.
    The Rangers debacle came to a head before season tickets were being sold and the prospect of boycotts was real

    The court decision has arrived well into the ST sales period and so there is little to worry about for many clubs

    Expect the statements to reflect this level of comfort.

    A question, does anyone know if there are any rules in place now that could lead to the stripping of titles?


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    They just have to apply the rules that were in place at the time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazyhorse View Post
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    What a disgusting Wormtongue piece of orcshiote that Milne is. Dons support must feel like they have been stabbed in the back. **** off out of Scottish football you gutless worthless bald toad.
    Watch this space he will soon get gig board of sfa or spl. He is proving worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radium View Post
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    Boards across the country will just be chuffed with the timing.
    The Rangers debacle came to a head before season tickets were being sold and the prospect of boycotts was real

    The court decision has arrived well into the ST sales period and so there is little to worry about for many clubs

    Expect the statements to reflect this level of comfort.

    A question, does anyone know if there are any rules in place now that could lead to the stripping of titles?


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    Mis-registration of players may be a start, plenty clubs around the country have an arguement if the SFA apply the rules equally!
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