(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[steakbake]

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I don't think he is hard done by and he deserves everything he gets. Just it seems like the fashionable thing at the moment to criticise everything he is doing when there is a lot worse going on. I appreciate we can't march and protest against everything though.

Sorry, I made a bit of an erse of myself there. I suppose it is fashionable because it's right in front of our eyes. Maybe it'll die down. I do think that at some stage, they'll try play it to their advantage: like the violence at Berkeley last night - totally counter productive.

[The Green Goblin]

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I don't think he is hard done by and he deserves everything he gets. Just it seems like the fashionable thing at the moment to criticise everything he is doing when there is a lot worse going on. I appreciate we can't march and protest against everything though.

I would have said that as the most powerful man on the planet, the things he is doing merit special attention, especially given the impact they are having, and could potentially have.

[johnbc70]

One thing about Trump, he is doing exactly as he said he would do. Are we not always critical of politicians who say one thing to get elected and never actually do what they say? Can't accuse him of that!

[lord bunberry]

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One thing about Trump, he is doing exactly as he said he would do. Are we not always critical of politicians who say one thing to get elected and never actually do what they say? Can't accuse him of that!

There's a certain irony to that. Of all the politicians you wanted not to be true to their word it's him.

[johnbc70]

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There's a certain irony to that. Of all the politicians you wanted not to be true to their word it's him.

True, but we are quick to criticise those that don't.

[RyeSloan]

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One thing about Trump, he is doing exactly as he said he would do. Are we not always critical of politicians who say one thing to get elected and never actually do what they say? Can't accuse him of that!

It is interesting, maybe morbidly so, watching it unfold.

Trump isn't a politician, I think that's the crux of it.

[Dinkydoo]

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True, but we are quick to criticise those that don't.

I'm not sure why you're placing so much emphasis on this; he shouldn't be criticised for the terrible decisions he's making, just because he said he would make them during the election campaign?

[The Green Goblin]

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One thing about Trump, he is doing exactly as he said he would do. Are we not always critical of politicians who say one thing to get elected and never actually do what they say? Can't accuse him of that!

The things we can accuse him of pale into comparison next to worrying about whether or not he kept his campaign promises. In the grand scheme of things right now, when you have a chief WH strategist who is willing to watch the world burn in pursuit of creating a new dominant American world order from the ashes, it's very low down on the list of worries!

[johnbc70]

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I'm not sure why you're placing so much emphasis on this; he shouldn't be criticised for the terrible decisions he's making, just because he said he would make them during the election campaign?

I say he gets everything he deserves. Point was we moan when politicians don't do as they say, we moan when they do.

[johnbc70]

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The things we can accuse him of pale into comparison next to worrying about whether or not he kept his campaign promises. In the grand scheme of things right now, when you have a chief WH strategist who is willing to watch the world burn in pursuit of creating a new dominant American world order from the ashes, it's very low down on the list of worries!

America has been pursuing a new world order where they are the dominant force for decades now, it's not new. Maybe just a bit more open now!

[northstandhibby]

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It is interesting, maybe morbidly so, watching it unfold.

Trump isn't a politician, I think that's the crux of it.

Not defending Trump, but what's your perception of a politician?

glory glory

[Dinkydoo]

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I say he gets everything he deserves. Point was we moan when politicians don't do as they say, we moan when they do.

But I'm not sure it's a valid point to make - is anyone actually moaning because he was honest? I think people are simply complaining because he's rushing into making decisions about things he has little grasp of, he's petulant, a bit racist and likely to provoke a world war and destory the global economy

[RyeSloan]

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Not defending Trump, but what's your perception of a politician?

glory glory

Not Trump!

[johnbc70]

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But I'm not sure it's a valid point to make - is anyone actually moaning because he was honest? I think people are simply complaining because he's rushing into making decisions about things he has little grasp of, he's petulant, a bit racist and likely to provoke a world war and destory the global economy

Loads were moaning when we was honest on his campaign? If not moaning what was it?

[The Green Goblin]

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Loads were moaning when we was honest on his campaign? If not moaning what was it?

No offence John, but tbh it's starting to feel a wee bit like you are arguing for the sake of it.

[RyeSloan]

Loving Trumps tweet outburst today....he was talking about an American court deciding American law as America having its right to make laws taken away...that's just genius!

[johnbc70]

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No offence John, but tbh it's starting to feel a wee bit like you are arguing for the sake of it.

I got asked a question, I answered it.

[Pretty Boy]

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Loving Trumps tweet outburst today....he was talking about an American court deciding American law as America having its right to make laws taken away...that's just genius!

If he is leading us on a path to armageddon at least there will be a few laughs along the way.

[Slavers]

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If he is leading us on a path to armageddon at least there will be a few laughs along the way.

Don't follow leaders, watch your parking meters!

[Jim44]

I heard the great opponent of fake news on the news a few minutes ago, saying that European police and security forces had embarked on a policy of not reporting acts of terrorism, which were rife in Europe.

[snooky]

The Republicans themselves will have to get rid of Trump. If any other person or force does, there will be carnage in the USA.
(Unless of course he actually lasts the 4 years and is voted out after his first term).

[mjhibby]

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I heard the great opponent of fake news on the news a few minutes ago, saying that European police and security forces had embarked on a policy of not reporting acts of terrorism, which were rife in Europe.

As opposed to the Tories saying there is a heightened alert on the chance of terrorism in the UK so to enforce that there is bad guys everywhere. If it wasn't reality I doubt I could make up govt as comical and as shambolic as the ones here and the us. As for Trump he is the classic it's ma baw kid who when he can't get his own way spits out the dummy. God knows what the rest of the world thinks of the us and the uk. May better get used to be the one nobody speaks to at parties as we are on our own now and at the mercy of the industrial European wolves. Brexit equals nobody has a clue what's going on. Just a normal time for politicians then.

[steakbake]

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The Republicans themselves will have to get rid of Trump. If any other person or force does, there will be carnage in the USA.
(Unless of course he actually lasts the 4 years and is voted out after his first term).

I think Gen Mattis is the man to watch on that front.

[GreenLake]

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Loving Trumps tweet outburst today....he was talking about an American court deciding American law as America having its right to make laws taken away...that's just genius!

He isn't the first to do that.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/alito-wi...-court-ruling/

Still, it is somewhat comforting to know that politicians can't just do what they want all the time.

[JackLadd]

Looks like the Steele dossier wasn't fake news. Some of it has been corroborated.


http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/10/po...ate/index.html

[ACLeith]

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Looks like the Steele dossier wasn't fake news. Some of it has been corroborated.


http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/10/po...ate/index.html

The start of the slow drip feed of details that could lead who knows where?

[NAE NOOKIE]

Where's spitting image when you need it

[Hibs Class]

No posts on this thread for over three days......I take it things have been uneventful in Trumpland?

[Hibbyradge]

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No posts on this thread for over three days......I take it things have been uneventful in Trumpland?

Trump fatigue.

[snooky]

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Trump fatigue.

Good-o for Trudeau

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...w-justin-trude