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    454 44.69%
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Even if it is dodgy, I'm not sure what Ashley can do, given that he dropped his case.
    Perjury would be a different case would it not?


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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/cru...-transparency/


    PhilMac. posting a piece suggesting Dave King's clean bill of health from S.A authorities might be dodgy.

    I know Philmac tends to take shots in the dark, but it would not surprise me for King to give the SFA any piece of paper knowing full well it would never be checked.
    Just strikes me as total defensive drivel. I have no doubt King has a history that is questionable to say the least but Ashley dropping the case makes it clear he can't or won't fight it anymore.

    I hate to say it but this thread might be close to being one for the archives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLake View Post
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    Perjury would be a different case would it not?
    It would, of course. But did this case actually reach Court? (genuine question.. there have been so many )

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Even if it is dodgy, I'm not sure what Ashley can do, given that he dropped his case.

    Tell the SFA they've been duped and the SFA will run Dave King out of town , would'nt they !

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    [QUOTE=Col2;4668620]Just strikes me as total defensive drivel. I have no doubt King has a history that is questionable to say the least but Ashley dropping the case makes it clear he can't or won't fight it anymore.

    I hate to say it but this thread might be close to being one for the archives?[/QUOTE]

    Please, let's at least keep it open for the Green and Whyte trial

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    Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

    Damning letter to Campbell Ogilvie from the Tax Justice Network.

    http://www.theoffshoregame.net/wp-co...FA-Annexes.pdf


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    Ozyhibby, what do the stories in the links in the past few posts actually mean?

    Is the "TJN" referred to in the last post actually a respectable body with a valid, independent standing or is it a self-appointed bunch of Celtic fans hell-bent on seeing Rangers stripped of titles?

    (Apologies - I find a lot of this stuff tricky to read and work out exactly what is being alleged. I also think that much of what has been written - P McG, John James etc has ultimately boiled down to being deluded, optimistic rantings of people with a twisted agenda).

    Is it basically suggesting that Campbell Ogilvie was less than honest with the LNS enquiry and therefore is requesting a full enquiry?

    Is this likely to happen/ do they have the clout to get this to happen?

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    They appear to be a big deal.
    http://www.taxjustice.net/about/who-we-are/
    I doubt they are Celtic fans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    Ozyhibby, what do the stories in the links in the past few posts actually mean?

    Is the "TJN" referred to in the last post actually a respectable body with a valid, independent standing or is it a self-appointed bunch of Celtic fans hell-bent on seeing Rangers stripped of titles?

    (Apologies - I find a lot of this stuff tricky to read and work out exactly what is being alleged. I also think that much of what has been written - P McG, John James etc has ultimately boiled down to being deluded, optimistic rantings of people with a twisted agenda).

    Is it basically suggesting that Campbell Ogilvie was less than honest with the LNS enquiry and therefore is requesting a full enquiry?

    Is this likely to happen/ do they have the clout to get this to happen?
    The report does indeed show and presents evidence that Ogilvie mislead the LNS enquiry.
    What is needed now is for the media to pick up the story.

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    The report does indeed show and presents evidence that Ogilvie mislead the LNS enquiry.
    What is needed now is for the media to pick up the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    They appear to be a big deal.
    http://www.taxjustice.net/about/who-we-are/
    I doubt they are Celtic fans.


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    I really like that you post all these links and I appreciate the time and effort you make.

    My take on this is there's little to disagree with. I just wish it was more than an uncredited blog post so we really have no idea where it came from.
    Space to let

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    I really like that you post all these links and I appreciate the time and effort you make.

    My take on this is there's little to disagree with. I just wish it was more than an uncredited blog post so we really have no idea where it came from.
    It's not uncredited?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    It's not uncredited?
    Sorry, wrong post!
    Space to let

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    Fury erupts as former Rangers owner Sir David Murray given go-ahead for £1bn housing estate on green belt land
    18:12, 17 MAY 2016 UPDATED 18:57, 17 MAY 2016
    BY JOHN FERGUSON
    EDINBURGH councillors told to “hang their heads in shame” after overruling their own experts to grant planning permission for the construction of the Garden District

    COUNCILLORS who overruled experts to grant Sir David Murray planning permission for a huge housing scheme on green belt land have been told to “hang their heads in shame”.

    Experts at Edinburgh City Council said the former Rangers owner should not be given the go-ahead for thousands of homes on green belt land until a local plan was fully developed.

    But in a bizarre move councillors berated them and gave Murray the green light anyway.

    The first phase of Murray’s Garden District will see 1320 homes and a primary school built between the City Bypass and Gogar Station Road in west Edinburgh.

    Read More: Edinburgh Council planners reject Sir David Murray's £1bn Garden District proposal

    Developer Murray Estates eventually plan to construct a £1billion development of 6000 homes as well as a 60-acre “national garden”.

    But the Greens condemned the proposals. The Party's planning spokesman, Councillor Nigel Bagshaw,said: “Edinburgh needs more housing in compact and well-serviced neighbourhoods, making use of existing brownfield sites.

    “Sticking the adjective ‘garden’ in front of a development neither makes it green nor in the city’s best interest.

    “Edinburgh needs more housing – affordable housing in compact and well-serviced neighbourhoods, making use of existing brownfield sites.

    “It absolutely does not need developments like this – suburban sprawl, greenbelt-wrecking and with poor links to transport, walking and cycling.

    Read More: Fall of the house of David Murray: Documents show ex-Ibrox chief's business is now officially dead

    “The planning committee members who backed this scheme should hang their heads in shame.”

    Alison Johnstone, Scottish Green MSP for Lothian, added: “I would urge the full council to see sense and overturn the planning committee’s decision, which smacks of desperation.

    “The city council’s energies should be going into transforming existing brownfield sites that have good infrastructure connections and bringing empty properties back into use.”


    After the latest decision, phase one will go before the full council next month to be ratified, then will be *referred to the Scottish Government for final approval.

    Murray Estates, said: “We believe this will be a world class extension to the capital and will become one of the city’s most successful developments.”

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    The route cause of Edinburgh's housing shortage was the failure of Pieman Ltd's spectacular plans for a new Gorgieville to be realised.

    Flats, glorious flats !

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Fury erupts as former Rangers owner Sir David Murray given go-ahead for £1bn housing estate on green belt land
    18:12, 17 MAY 2016 UPDATED 18:57, 17 MAY 2016
    BY JOHN FERGUSON
    EDINBURGH councillors told to “hang their heads in shame” after overruling their own experts to grant planning permission for the construction of the Garden District

    COUNCILLORS who overruled experts to grant Sir David Murray planning permission for a huge housing scheme on green belt land have been told to “hang their heads in shame”.

    Experts at Edinburgh City Council said the former Rangers owner should not be given the go-ahead for thousands of homes on green belt land until a local plan was fully developed.

    But in a bizarre move councillors berated them and gave Murray the green light anyway.

    The first phase of Murray’s Garden District will see 1320 homes and a primary school built between the City Bypass and Gogar Station Road in west Edinburgh.

    Read More: Edinburgh Council planners reject Sir David Murray's £1bn Garden District proposal

    Developer Murray Estates eventually plan to construct a £1billion development of 6000 homes as well as a 60-acre “national garden”.

    But the Greens condemned the proposals. The Party's planning spokesman, Councillor Nigel Bagshaw,said: “Edinburgh needs more housing in compact and well-serviced neighbourhoods, making use of existing brownfield sites.

    “Sticking the adjective ‘garden’ in front of a development neither makes it green nor in the city’s best interest.

    “Edinburgh needs more housing – affordable housing in compact and well-serviced neighbourhoods, making use of existing brownfield sites.

    “It absolutely does not need developments like this – suburban sprawl, greenbelt-wrecking and with poor links to transport, walking and cycling.

    Read More: Fall of the house of David Murray: Documents show ex-Ibrox chief's business is now officially dead

    “The planning committee members who backed this scheme should hang their heads in shame.”

    Alison Johnstone, Scottish Green MSP for Lothian, added: “I would urge the full council to see sense and overturn the planning committee’s decision, which smacks of desperation.

    “The city council’s energies should be going into transforming existing brownfield sites that have good infrastructure connections and bringing empty properties back into use.”


    After the latest decision, phase one will go before the full council next month to be ratified, then will be *referred to the Scottish Government for final approval.

    Murray Estates, said: “We believe this will be a world class extension to the capital and will become one of the city’s most successful developments.”
    What are the council getting for the yam out of this? That's what I want to know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    What are the council getting for the yam out of this? That's what I want to know
    Funny that, as this was my first thought too! Hmm something in that methinks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    What are the council getting for the yam out of this? That's what I want to know
    I think this will be the councillors being looked after personally on this occasion. A last hurrah for a labour council that knows it's on the way out at the next election. Might as well cash in first.

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    What are the council getting for the yam out of this? That's what I want to know
    Could he be one of the mysterious backers of the new stand in return for....

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    Where they getting the steel for the stand?

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    The sort of decision which should be immediately forwarded to Scottish Government for review IMO.

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    http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-57/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    That is interesting. I thought they had a 7 year notice period to complete re Sports Direct? It might just be another spin.
    Last edited by MrSmith; 18-05-2016 at 12:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmith View Post
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    That is interesting. I thought they had a 7 year notice period on complete re Sports Direct? It might just be another spin.
    They do but given King's winning streak against Ashley in the courts I wouldn't bet against him winning.

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    I feel dirty, opening that!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe6-2 View Post
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    I feel dirty, opening that!!
    Also amusing is their side banner #goingfor55 - obviously still in denial
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    Good move by them, if Mike Ashley challenges that termination then it shows he has got commercial influence which the Football League in England doesnt allow. Could mean he will be forced to sell his shares in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC94 View Post
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    Good move by them, if Mike Ashley challenges that termination then it shows he has got commercial influence which the Football League in England doesnt allow. Could mean he will be forced to sell his shares in them.
    Sports direct have lots of retail deals with lots of clubs.

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