Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[grunt]

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Bugger I just read that bottom to top and it made no sense.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Bugger I just read that bottom to top and it made no sense.

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Dewar making submission on area covered by reporting restrictions.

[Ozyhibby]

Court rises, submissions concluded. Decision will come in due course.


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[grunt]

Court rises, submissions concluded. Decision will come in due course.


(Game over for today).

[GreenLake]

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I agree.

I've ditched the Tax Return. This is great entertainment.

Is it due to be decided today?

If it makes you feel any less guilty, I have ditched two CPA firms in two years.

[Bostonhibby]

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My point being... does that mean we have never won the wee Cup?

M'lud, I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it might tend to incriminate me.

[Weststandwanab]

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Why would anyone want to take on a liability for someone elses negligence? Walker asks the court.

Walker says that the indemnity clause "does not use clear words"

Walker moves on to an area covered by reporting restrictions.


Over to you, Grunt.... I have a last-minute Tax Return to do :)

Not your own I hope !

[greenginger]

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Rangers secretary James Blair interrupts QC to urge clarification that compromise agreement signed after Green stopped being chief of TRFCL.
Green, Rangers QC claims, stepped down as "Sevco" chief exec at same time he became RIFC chief exec in December 2013.
Judge hypothetically floats idea clause may not specifically state "limited" because Sevco company existed before it acquired "the club".
Judge says he doesn't like prospect of sending clause definition argument to a proof. Says they should be able to settle it themselves.
Judge says they seek definite confirmation of dates Green became/stopped being director, chief exec etc. To be supplied at later date.
Rangers QC concludes. Green QC requests to be able to make further comment.

According to Companies House, Green was chief exec. of Sevco/TRFC from 29/5/2012 until 31/5/2013 .

He was chief exec. of RIFC from 4/12/2012 until 31/5/2013.

Where does this leaving one to join the other, or December 2013 come from.

[Bishop Hibee]

The Herald and Sunday Herald newspaper are worse than The Sun or the Record. The latter do not pretend to be serious newspapers. Total disgrace to drop Spiers and Haggerty due to bluenose pressure.

I'd love Spiers to come out with the name of the Director who said that "The Billy Boys" is a great song. His word against the Hun board though so I doubt he will.

[lapsedhibee]

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I have changed to quoting Grant Russell - he seems to be clearer in his reporting.

Though he seems to have missed the bit where Lord Bob Malcolm suggested that the Huns were manipulating the number of entities involved to ensure that they kept their old league titles. Wonder if Grant feared for his job if he tweeted that?

[lapsedhibee]

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According to Companies House, Green was chief exec. of Sevco/TRFC from 29/5/2012 until 31/5/2013 .

He was chief exec. of RIFC from 4/12/2012 until 31/5/2013.

Where does this leaving one to join the other, or December 2013 come from.

Hun counsel giving wrong information to the court - shirley not?

[Velma Dinkley]

some more info re. the journalists: http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/sunday...stop-offensive

[grunt]

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Though he seems to have missed the bit where Lord Bob Malcolm suggested that the Huns were manipulating the number of entities involved to ensure that they kept their old league titles. Wonder if Grant feared for his job if he tweeted that?

Per James Doleman: Lord Malcolm says Rangers only talked about two different entities 'so they could still say they won the league".

[GreenLake]

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The Herald and Sunday Herald newspaper are worse than The Sun or the Record. The latter do not pretend to be serious newspapers. Total disgrace to drop Spiers and Haggerty due to bluenose pressure.

I'd love Spiers to come out with the name of the Director who said that "The Billy Boys" is a great song. His word against the Hun board though so I doubt he will.

I would love him to have hit the button on his voice recorder. Maybe he is waiting for the right moment to upload to youtube.

[JeMeSouviens]

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My point being... does that mean we have never won the wee Cup?

Whatever way you slice it we've won it at least once:

Hibs - club formed 1875, <win cup>, disbanded 1891, reformed 1892, <win cup>, incorporated 1905, continues to present

So the legal entity from 1892 to present is the same and has 1 cup win in that period. Whether you view the 1892 Hibs as the same as the 1875-1891 Hibs is murky but there isn't a definite end as per a liquidation.

cf the Huns - club formed 1873 (or some claim 1872), incorporated 1899, consigned to liquidation 2012

[robinp]

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Rangers QC refers to Wikipedia....

You're on the windup.....right?

[Ozyhibby]

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You're on the windup.....right?

Nope


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[greenginger]

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You're on the windup.....right?

https://twitter.com/jamesdoleman/sta...936384?lang=en

[grunt]

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https://twitter.com/jamesdoleman/sta...936384?lang=en

Alternatively

https://twitter.com/STVGrant/status/693091978767159296

[Springbank]

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Just to digress-this shows clearly the difficulty in the proposals for "fans" to own "clubs".

Different tangent, but I'm beginning to see why Andy Goram was so important to Rangers

one andy goram for the company and another Andy Goram for the club

#TwoAndyGorams

[O'Rourke3]

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The Herald and Sunday Herald newspaper are worse than The Sun or the Record. The latter do not pretend to be serious newspapers. Total disgrace to drop Spiers and Haggerty due to bluenose pressure.

I'd love Spiers to come out with the name of the Director who said that "The Billy Boys" is a great song. His word against the Hun board though so I doubt he will.

What are the odds it's Park. Why would you risk a business reputation and try and blackmail a paper into a retraction for a friend? Pretty sure they get no business from the Celtic minded but there will be many others where they do, this is the type of move Ratner made......

[grunt]

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I'd love Spiers to come out with the name of the Director who said that "The Billy Boys" is a great song. His word against the Hun board though so I doubt he will.

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What are the odds it's Park.

There seems to be Twitter speculation that the Director is John Gilligan?

As a matter of interest, there seems to be a concerted campaign to ensure that any tweet which backs Spiers is met with a barrage of replies saying that he is lying about the quote from the Rangers Director. Appears too consistent to be random responses.

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Michael Gray ‏@GrayInGlasgow 31m31 minutes ago Herald deputy editor @BarclayMcBain has warned staff not to comment on sacking @AngelaHaggerty/@GrahamSpiers to protect papers' "integrity".

https://twitter.com/GrayInGlasgow/st...29422338134016

[magpie1892]

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Responsibility for the content of the paper is integral to the definition of editor. If it's published in the paper it is either endorsed by the editor or he/she resigns (in circumstances like this).

The fact that the editor has not resigned indicates he endorses the apology.

No, not at all. Try editing a newspaper or magazine in the Middle East - copy gets changed by the owners on a regular basis and in my extensive experience, editorial resignations do not follow as a matter of course. I've never seen it happen, and I've been about.

Here in Scotland, when I was working at the Scotsman, then editor Iain Martin had a piece pulled by the editorial director. Martin was furious, but he didn't walk and he didn't endorse the decision.

'The fact that the editor has not resigned indicates he endorses the apology' is a total non sequitur, certainly in the 18 years I've been involved in journalism in about ten markets on three continents.

[s.a.m]

Charlotte Fakeovers ‏@CharIotteFakes 46m46 minutes ago I am in possession of incriminating emails from the Sevco board member, regarding views on singing of The Billy Boys. @Herald_Editor

[Hibee87]

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Charlotte Fakeovers ‏@CharIotteFakes 46m46 minutes ago I am in possession of incriminating emails from the Sevco board member, regarding views on singing of The Billy Boys. @Herald_Editor

That's interesting, I googled that Charlotte fakes and first thing was a daily record article saying this account leaked tapes and documents a year or 2 back which is being used as evidence in some cases against rangers.

If it's the same Twitter account they may actually have the name

[may 21/05/2016]

Douglas park

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[CropleyWasGod]

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Douglas park

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In view of the new club/old club debate, that'll be New Douglas Park.

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[CropleyWasGod]

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That's interesting, I googled that Charlotte fakes and first thing was a daily record article saying this account leaked tapes and documents a year or 2 back which is being used as evidence in some cases against rangers.

If it's the same Twitter account they may actually have the name

IIRC, Charlotte Fakes is due in Court himself soon.

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