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  • Opposed - and will walk away from Scottish professional football

    537 52.85%
  • Opposed - but will continue to support the game.

    454 44.69%
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    25 2.46%
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    Quote Originally Posted by doddsy View Post
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    I agree with you bud. It's simply not fair or helpful to taint all of the Rangers fans as bigots or slag them all of. We are a far more intelligent community than simple branding all of them with the same brush. We can't see this from an inward looking viewpoint. We must remember that it sometimes takes generations to change attitudes. But change it must, so keep up the good work of highlighting it at every opportunity and it will change due to forums like this and others.

    There are plenty of decent Rangers fans but plenty of vile bigoted bampots as well unfortunately. Can't wait for Saturday.
    Got my ticket today. If you're looking in Ben, thank you so very much bud!
    I kind of agree but, IMHO, the Hun-support is 80-20 in favour of the bigoted-bampot - although that IS an improvement from the 100% of years ago.


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    James Doleman in town for the Chuckie v RIFC expenses appeal.


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    If the editor has remained in his job, he has not been over-ruled.
    How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    James Doleman in town for the Chuckie v RIFC expenses appeal.


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    Rangers appear to be on a winning streak in court these days as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    Rangers appear to be on a winning streak in court these days as well.
    I'm not expecting that to change today either. From what I remember of the first hearing, there was a lot of old club/ new club chat but not much substance from Greens lawyer although the substantial bit could have been heard privately. Hopefully I'm pleasantly surprised.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    Rangers appear to be on a winning streak in court these days as well.
    Yep - all the predictions of their demise seem to have no foundation - they keep coming up smelling of roses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Brazil View Post
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    Yep - all the predictions of their demise seem to have no foundation - they keep coming up smelling of roses.
    Hardly 'no foundation' and roses. More like clinging on like a rancid corpse.

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    I may be missing something in this old/new/old/sevco/sevco588/the Rangers circus but if the entity now - known as The Rangers - was the same as when chucky left? Surely his contract is legal and binding in terms of court expenses and related finance?

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    Green has had to cough up £ 50,000 up front to get this appeal heard so he must think he has a case.

    The way I see it is , that if the Judges say he can't be funded, they are saying they consider him guilty of the charges before the case even starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Green has had to cough up £ 50,000 up front to get this appeal heard so he must think he has a case.

    The way I see it is , that if the Judges say he can't be funded, they are saying they consider him guilty of the charges before the case even starts.
    Establishment looking after the establishment club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    James Doleman in town for the Chuckie v RIFC expenses appeal.


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    This is the big one, IMO.

    If RIFC lose...................

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    Made it through the storm and now at the Court of Session for Charles Green v Rangers International Football Club.

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    Green is appealing the ruling by Lord Doherty that Rangers are not liable for his legal bills in the current fraud proceedings against him.


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    Due to ongoing fraud proceedings I expect there will be restrictions on what we can report but will post out what I can


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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    The way I see it is , that if the Judges say he can't be funded, they are saying they consider him guilty of the charges before the case even starts.
    I don't see it quite that way. It seems to be a technical legal discussion about how Green's contract terms should be interpreted. Doesn't really go anywhere near the substance of the wider fraud allegations IMO. But I could well be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Green has had to cough up £ 50,000 up front to get this appeal heard so he must think he has a case.

    The way I see it is , that if the Judges say he can't be funded, they are saying they consider him guilty of the charges before the case even starts.
    Think it's more to prove that he can pay the costs of THIS case if it goes against him. Otherwise, it would be a frivolous appeal.

    Don't think the fraud case will/should have any impact on the decision made in this one.

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    Lord Doherty has allowed us to tweet from court as long as we stay within reporting restrictions.


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    Charles Green is represented by Alan Dewar QC and Jonathan Brown


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    Rangers are represented by Mr Walker. company secretary James Blair is also in attendance.


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    One unusual factor in today's case is that Lord Doherty "sealed" his original judgment so we don't know the grounds of his decision


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    The 3 judges enter court and proceedings commence


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    Alan Dewar QC for Green rises to open the hearing.


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    Dewar asks for the "reclaiming motion to be upheld.


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    Dewar says case rests on how the court defines the phrase "Rangers football club"


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    Dewar said the only possible way to interpret the phrase "Rangers football club" is as the company formally known as " Sevco Scotland."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Dewar says case rests on how the court defines the phrase "Rangers football club"


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    Haha!

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    Dewar invites the court to consider Lord Doherty ruled that the definition of "Rangers football club" was ambiguous


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    Dewar mentions appeal court ruled in favour of former News of the World editor Andy Coulson in a similar case


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    Dewar reminds court that previous judge called notion that Rangers should pay Greens legal bills in a criminal matter "absurd"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Dewar says case rests on how the court defines the phrase "Rangers football club"


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    No swearing in court sadly it's contempt!

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