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    It's frustrating when you are on the receiving end of poor decisions but to be honest, I hope we never get to the day where refereeing mistakes are eliminated all together. Some of the best afternoons entertainment over the years have been on days when the ref has totally lost the plot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NadeAteMyLunch! View Post
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    And the fact that Wilson was last man but only got a yellow
    There is no "last man" rule in football, it is a myth. The rule is denying a clear goal scoring opportunity.
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    Not just our league that suffers from bad decisions I watched the Birmingham v Cardiff game which Birmingham won by a penalty - on the play back it was clearly shown that the ball hit the Cardiff defender flush on the face and even drew blood but referee gave the penalty which won the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Sauz View Post
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    They (the ref's) have been asked about bringing the new tech into our game over the last 2/3 years to help them, and each time they & the SFA have refused!
    I do feel sorry for the refs when they get something wrong, because I do genuinely believe they're out there doing their best, and they could really do with the help that could be given additional help to make the right call. Especially at the highest levels (World cups ect)

    Unless it's against hibs, then they're cheating, probably bribed or otherwise biased hun/hearts/etc person of dubious parentage and hygiene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangermouse View Post
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    There is no "last man" rule in football, it is a myth. The rule is denying a clear goal scoring opportunity.
    Which is generally decided by whether another defender could block the opportunity no? So whilst there may not be an explicit last man rule, more often than not a challenge by the last man equals a red?

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    The standard of refereeing in Scotland has always been poor. Most of it is probably honest mistakes but I do genuinely believe that there have been cases of corruption. The penalty the Huns got at PBS a few years back (linesman was a season ticket holder at Ibrox) springs to mind as the most blatant. But there have been countless dodgy decisions the OF have had over the years.

    Some bad referees in the Premiership as well but with the speed the players move at and the amount of diving going in it must be an extremely difficult job and mistakes are inevitable.

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    The standard of refereeing in Scotland has always been poor. Most of it is probably honest mistakes but I do genuinely believe that there have been cases of corruption. The penalty the Huns got at PBS a few years back (linesman was a season ticket holder at Ibrox) springs to mind as the most blatant. But there have been countless dodgy decisions the OF have had over the years.

    Some bad referees in the Premiership as well but with the speed the players move at and the amount of diving going in it must be an extremely difficult job and mistakes are inevitable.
    Kenny millers goal at easter road last season is a good example. The kind of decision that would never ever go against celtc or sevco but regularly go in their favour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter douglas View Post
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    Referees definitely need help as it's easy to forget that the officials are at ground level and have to make split second decisions regarding men who can run 100m in 11seconds. The American sports leave nothing to chance as there is so much at stake so I don't know why replays or fifth officials aren't adopted in football. Maybe the Luddites will think that "technology" means the gateway opening to cyborg refs of something.

    Respect is another issue and a reason why we might run out of refs in the future but it's against a backdrop of cultural bias regarding referees. In Scotland it was rife in the sixties, seventies and eighties and Graham Poll has admitted live on air that games at old Trafford were refereed "differently". Think Fergie time.

    There has to be changes which start with the elimination of these "borderline" decision based on human variables. Only then can the trust grow to make it an attractive career option. All it really takes is a guy in the stands with a monitor who is miked to the officials.
    The problem with introducing technology is that the guy in the stand would only see it from 1 angle. He could easily get the decision wrong. Look at the rugby world cup when the tv ref has 4 or 5 looks from different angles before coming up with a decision. I just think it wouldn't work.

    Finally if they can't afford a guy to hold up the board stating how much injury time there is what chance do we have of paying for someone in the stand with tv monitor?

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    Collum had another nightmare in the Aberdeen v Inverness game at the weekend. Two more penalties awarded that were never penalties. Including the Falkirk v Sevco game he's dished out 4 penalties in 2 games, none of which were penalties. Michael Stewart was spot on about Collum on sportscene last night.

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    The standard of refereeing is about the same standard as the playing. Both are very poor but it's the blatant cheating/bias which makes the refereeing seem worse in Scotland than anywhere else

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    The standard of refereeing is about the same standard as the playing. Both are very poor but it's the blatant cheating/bias which makes the refereeing seem worse in Scotland than anywhere else
    Honest mistakes even themselves out over time. Blatant bias and corrupt decisions are there for all to see, and for the media to ignore

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    [QUOTE=lucky;4531577]The standard of refereeing is about the same standard as the playing. Both are very poor but it's the blatant cheating/bias which makes the refereeing seem worse in Scotland than anywhere else[/QUOTE]


    for underlined/black quote !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby View Post
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    Collum had another nightmare in the Aberdeen v Inverness game at the weekend. Two more penalties awarded that were never penalties. Including the Falkirk v Sevco game he's dished out 4 penalties in 2 games, none of which were penalties. Michael Stewart was spot on about Collum on sportscene last night.
    I missed Sportscene, what did MS say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommyrob View Post
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    I missed Sportscene, what did MS say?
    That Collum isn't up to it. 4 incorrect penalties awarded in a row, he's far too keen to give them, has no real understanding of football (see ICT penalty, ICT player runs accross Aberdeen player who has eyes only for the ball and both collide, penalty ICT).

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