Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Sergey]

Warburton now odds-on (8/11) with Skybet for the Fulham gig.

Might be a goer if the lure of money and the relocation back to London suits him and his family.

[greenginger]

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Warburton now odds-on (8/11) with Skybet for the Fulham gig.

Might be a goer if the lure of money and the relocation back to London suits him and his family.

And still not a chirp out of Orc media about the possible departure of the man with the magic hat.

If he does go, and Weir stays, we will no doubt learn that Warby was just the front man , the real tactician was his assistant.

[Jim44]

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Warburton now odds-on (8/11) with Skybet for the Fulham gig.

Might be a goer if the lure of money and the relocation back to London suits him and his family.

Does this price actually reflect the wads of money placed on Warburton or would Skybet be dishonest enough to 'doctor' prices as a 'come on' to tempt gullible folk to splash their cash?

[greenginger]

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Does this price actually reflect the wads of money placed on Warburton or would Skybet be dishonest enough to 'doctor' prices as a 'come on' to tempt gullible folk to splash their cash?

You can get better odds with Paddypower and Betfair so how would an 8/11 tempt anyone to Skybet ?

[steakbake]

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There's no chance of Warburton leaving Sevco for Fulham. Better with the circus you know.

Fulham are a mess at the moment. Lots of fire directed towards Mike Rigg who is kind of a director of football, who seems to influence things. There's a reason that various managers have turned down what otherwise looks like a decent enough gig. That said, given Warburton's performance as lead puppet at the AGM last week, he doesn't appear too adverse to being someone's 'yes' man.

[Jim44]

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You can get better odds with Paddypower and Betfair so how would an 8/11 tempt anyone to Skybet ?

I take your point and suppose it's quite obvious. So I take it that lots of money has been put on Warburton with Skybet and their odds have been accordingly adjusted.

[Brightside]

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I take your point and suppose it's quite obvious. So I take it that lots of money has been put on Warburton with Skybet and their odds have been accordingly adjusted.

Or they are creating the hype to get more money on... normally the market is very similar with a point here or there if one firm makes a stand.

[Jim44]

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Or they are creating the hype to get more money on... normally the market is very similar with a point here or there if one firm makes a stand.

Well that takes me back to my post back a bit, which greenginger disputed.

[Brightside]

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Well that takes me back to my post back a bit, which greenginger disputed.

Some people only have accounts with one provider... they announce there has been a massive plunge from say 8 to 8/11....dafty online thinks "Oh he must be a cert" and chucks £50 on it. The amount of actual money on it will be minimal.

[ACLeith]

On SKY Sports news-
"Have you had any contact at all with any other club?"
MW - "I'm The Rangers manager"
Could have tried to avoid a straight answer a bit sharper than that.

"Our focus right now is on Rangers". How many minutes/hours/days does "right now" cover?

[Treadstone]

Appeal submitted.

[Spike Mandela]

BBC's. Sevco apologist in Chief gets the scoop surprise surprise............

Richard Wilson (@RichwilBBC)
30/11/2015 15:11
BDO have submitted their appeal against Court of Session's ruling on Rangers' use of EBTs. They are seeking leave to appeal at Supreme Court

[StevieC]

What is to be gained for BDO by submitting an appeal?
I get that Sevco have titles at stake, but not sure how it affects BDO. Shouldn't they be trying to avoid further court costs to ensure maximum return for the creditors?

[Mcpakeisgod]

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And still not a chirp out of Orc media about the possible departure of the man with the magic hat.

If he does go, and Weir stays, we will no doubt learn that Warby was just the front man , the real tactician was his assistant.

That last sentence gave me a right chuckle. Could imagine it being exactly what they'd say

[CropleyWasGod]

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What is to be gained for BDO by submitting an appeal?
I get that Sevco have titles at stake, but not sure how it affects BDO. Shouldn't they be trying to avoid further court costs to ensure maximum return for the creditors?

It depends who is paying for the appeal.

If it were them, I'd agree with you.

However, there has been talk that the Murray Group (or even other clubs and companies who have vested interest in the case) might pick up the tab.

EDIT... at this stage, it's just "seeking leave to appeal". It's not definitely going ahead.

[jgl07]

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Warburton now odds-on (8/11) with Skybet for the Fulham gig.

Might be a goer if the lure of money and the relocation back to London suits him and his family.

His head says to stay at Rangers but his magic hat says to get the hell out of there as soon as possible.

[Jim44]

From Fulham Forum:

Rangers manager Mark Warburton dismisses Fulham link

Mark Warburton has distanced himself from the Fulham manager's job after he was installed as the bookmakers' favourite.

The Rangers boss has been heavily linked with the vacant Craven Cottage role after leading the Ibrox side to the top of the Scottish Championship.

Warburton has overseen 12 wins out of 14 and his team will move three points clear of closest challengers Hibernian if they win their game in hand at home to Dumbarton on Tuesday.

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...medium=twitter

[greenginger]

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From Fulham Forum:

Rangers manager Mark Warburton dismisses Fulham link

Mark Warburton has distanced himself from the Fulham manager's job after he was installed as the bookmakers' favourite.

The Rangers boss has been heavily linked with the vacant Craven Cottage role after leading the Ibrox side to the top of the Scottish Championship.

Warburton has overseen 12 wins out of 14 and his team will move three points clear of closest challengers Hibernian if they win their game in hand at home to Dumbarton on Tuesday.

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...medium=twitter

I bet the Sky Sports link was written by Jim White

Dick Advocat now installed as second favourite after Warby.

[Ozyhibby]

https://johnjamessite.wordpress.com/...ave-to-appeal/


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Roddy Forsyth in the Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...oes-ahead.html

Telegraph Sport also understands that opinion amongst London legal experts holds that BDO has a strong chance of having the Court of Session verdict overturned should the matter be heard for a fourth time and that it was a certainty that the liquidators would appeal from the moment the Edinburgh decision was published.

[brog]

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Roddy Forsyth in the Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...oes-ahead.html

Yet another Sevco stooge! I wonder who gave Roddy that info? I think it's possible BDO are appealing on behalf of the many rather than the few, or indeed the one! Perhaps they feel some moral responsibility to represent the minor creditors who will lose out should HMRC prevail. Then again it may be as CWG says they've been dashed a considerable amount of wonga by SDM & who are BDO to turn down more money!!

[Skol]

Ronald De Boer....it wasnt the money that took me to rangers...Man U offered the same...I played for Rangers with my heart....oh, and I had a dicky knee and Rangers were offering me the same money for an extra year. Which just goes to show that it was absolutely the EBT because without it rangers could not have matched the money from Man U or offered an extra year

[Ozyhibby]

The longer this lasts, the more BDO earn in fees. That will be the number 1 motivation right there.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://rangerstaxcase.wordpress.com...-ending-story/

Well worth a read from the blogger who first brought this to everyone's attention.


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https://rangerstaxcase.wordpress.com...-ending-story/

Well worth a read from the blogger who first brought this to everyone's attention.


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This should be required reading for every Scottish journalist and football pundit.
I had the misfortune to catch part of Sportsound tonight where they were wittering on about whether EBTs were illegal or not
After all this time the media in this country should have a far better, more informed view of the situation than they do.

[Ozyhibby]

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This should be required reading for every Scottish journalist and football pundit.
I had the misfortune to catch part of Sportsound tonight where they were wittering on about whether EBTs were illegal or not
After all this time the media in this country should have a far better, more informed view of the situation than they do.

They've read it. They choose to play dumb.


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[brog]

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https://rangerstaxcase.wordpress.com...-ending-story/

Well worth a read from the blogger who first brought this to everyone's attention.


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That is superb. Everyone involved in the management & administration of Scottish Football should be required to read it. They should then either provide a satisfactory rebuttal to the points raised or provide an explanation as to why they colluded in failing to apply their own rules & regulations to the entity which was Rangers. Shameful!

[Sergey]

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That is superb. Everyone involved in the management & administration of Scottish Football should be required to read it. They should then either provide a satisfactory rebuttal to the points raised or provide an explanation as to why they colluded in failing to apply their own rules & regulations to the entity which was Rangers. Shameful!

Agreed. Bang-on every point.

I fed them some information a few years ago when CW got involved as I had an avenue for info. The blogger(s) are actually based in Hong Kong and working from afar. Not that that's stopped them nailing the info.

The whispers I supplied will undoubtedly come out in the forthcoming trial - but I'm glad that the little snippets that I provided them helped to piece together the bigger jigsaw.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Yet another Sevco stooge! I wonder who gave Roddy that info? I think it's possible BDO are appealing on behalf of the many rather than the few, or indeed the one! Perhaps they feel some moral responsibility to represent the minor creditors who will lose out should HMRC prevail. Then again it may be as CWG says they've been dashed a considerable amount of wonga by SDM & who are BDO to turn down more money!!

Another possibility is that the creditors committee.....I think it's called....have instructed BDO to appeal. The smaller creditors, in whose interests the appeal is, may outvote HMRC on that committee.

If that's the case, I think BDO's hands are tied.

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[Kaff]

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Agreed. Bang-on every point.

I fed them some information a few years ago when CW got involved as I had an avenue for info. The blogger(s) are actually based in Hong Kong and working from afar. Not that that's stopped them nailing the info.

The whispers I supplied will undoubtedly come out in the forthcoming trial - but I'm glad that the little snippets that I provided them helped to piece together the bigger jigsaw.

Here we go....