Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Ozyhibby]

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Would be safe with 24 points on the board.

Possibly not, they may lose players and struggle to win any more points this season.

[Billy Whizz]

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The points deduction would carry over if they were still in admin when the new season started.

Did someone not say that any admin would be a quick one?

[Billy Whizz]

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Alloa and Cowdenbeath are on 19, so it's not cut and dried.

However, my point is that the rules are known at the start of the season, and clubs can use these to their advantage.

I meant going straight down😄

[CropleyWasGod]

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Did someone not say that any admin would be a quick one?

It could be, if there was a new company waiting.

However, the affairs of the current company are so convoluted that that might not be possible.

[KeithTheHibby]

I don't understand why they would even need MA and his 5m loan. Surely the new directors have money to invest into the club?

[Onceinawhile]

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Does that mean he will be able to refuse to pay tax for years over here as well?

If he's non UK resident, he only pays tax on any UK income, which I'd imagine is close to zero.

[AndyM_1875]

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It could be, if there was a new company waiting.

However, the affairs of the current company are so convoluted that that might not be possible.

Would the onerous Ashley contracts become null and void in the event of their second Administration and subsequent -25 hit?

[CropleyWasGod]

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Would the onerous Ashley contracts become null and void in the event of their second Administration and subsequent -25 hit?

Not sure....would depend on what they actually say, but almost definitely if there was a new company ready to pick things up.

[Deansy]

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That link should have a warning!! Did you check out some of the followers he has. Some very colourful uniforms and sashes. I feel filthy now just by looking at it. By the way the natives are not only restless they are totally revolting.

McMurdo - I came across this amazing drivel from an earlier 'Article' (Dross) - an absolutely hilarious headline of

The Conspiracy Against Glasgow Rangers


https://billmcmurdo.wordpress.com/20...asgow-rangers/

It contains THIS most breath-taking, unbelievable line -

'The two decades of Murray’s tenure saw Rangers go from being other fans’ second favourite team to being despised


Now THAT statement takes some beating, eh - before Murray stated their cheating, neutral-supporters 2nd team was them ??!!. Surely that's ultra tongue-in-cheek ?. At 55, I've despised them for 54 years and 364 days and, equally, have yet to meet ANY supporter whose 2d team was them - obviously apart from the Muppets at the PBS !!. Does anyone know of such a case ??

[CropleyWasGod]

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I don't understand why they would even need MA and his 5m loan. Surely the new directors have money to invest into the club?

Have they actually said they do?

More to the point, has anyone actually asked them if they do? :)

[AndyM_1875]

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McMurdo - I came across this amazing drivel from an earlier 'Article' (Dross) - an absolutely hilarious headline of

The Conspiracy Against Glasgow Rangers


https://billmcmurdo.wordpress.com/20...asgow-rangers/

It contains THIS most breath-taking, unbelievable line -

'The two decades of Murray’s tenure saw Rangers go from being other fans’ second favourite team to being despised


Now THAT statement takes some beating, eh - before Murray stated their cheating, neutral-supporters 2nd team was them ??!!. Surely that's ultra tongue-in-cheek ?. At 55, I've despised them for 54 years and 364 days and, equally, have yet to meet ANY supporter whose 2d team was them - obviously apart from the Muppets at the PBS !!. Does anyone know of such a case ??

McMurdo is a zoomer, a total fruit loop. Lives in a fantasy world of conspiracies and agendas, a bit like his polar opposite the fake journalist Mad Phil. However for sheer pointless misdirected Ranger flavoured hate I shall point you at the completely barking David Leggat and if anyone points you at his slaverings you'll know to avoid at all costs.

[Spike Mandela]

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McMurdo is a zoomer, a total fruit loop. Lives in a fantasy world of conspiracies and agendas, a bit like his polar opposite the fake journalist Mad Phil. However for sheer pointless misdirected Ranger flavoured hate I shall point you at the completely barking David Leggat and if anyone points you at his slaverings you'll know to avoid at all costs.

Did Leggat not pull his blog under threat of legal action. Quite the most bitter read I'd ever seen on a football blog.

I only raised the McMurdo blog as I was surprised how quicly things had turned against the new Rangers regime.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Did Leggat not pull his blog under threat of legal action. Quite the most bitter read I'd ever seen on a football blog.

I only raised the McMurdo blog as I was surprised how quicly things had turned against the new Rangers regime.

I detect a whiff of old sores being opened. King and Murray aren't really new, and the chances are they p'd off some people first time around. Those peepul will have it in for them before they even start.

[Smartie]

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McMurdo - I came across this amazing drivel from an earlier 'Article' (Dross) - an absolutely hilarious headline of

The Conspiracy Against Glasgow Rangers


https://billmcmurdo.wordpress.com/20...asgow-rangers/

It contains THIS most breath-taking, unbelievable line -

'The two decades of Murray’s tenure saw Rangers go from being other fans’ second favourite team to being despised


Now THAT statement takes some beating, eh - before Murray stated their cheating, neutral-supporters 2nd team was them ??!!. Surely that's ultra tongue-in-cheek ?. At 55, I've despised them for 54 years and 364 days and, equally, have yet to meet ANY supporter whose 2d team was them - obviously apart from the Muppets at the PBS !!. Does anyone know of such a case ??

Is that possibly in relation to football fans in the West of Scotland?

I have a few mates who support Morton and St Mirren and most of them seem to have a preference for an Old Firm team as a second team.

Some hate the OF with a passion though.

Most of the The Rangers inclined ones have turned their support back towards their local team over the past few years though. Pleasing, as they say.


(I'm trying to be devil's advocate here as much as anything, I think it is a staggering statement. I can't remember a time that Rangers weren't despised by every fan of every other team other than some through in the West and some clowns down South who support similarly odious clubs.)

[AndyM_1875]

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Did Leggat not pull his blog under threat of legal action. Quite the most bitter read I'd ever seen on a football blog.

I only raised the McMurdo blog as I was surprised how quicly things had turned against the new Rangers regime.

I think you're right Spike and if Leggat isn't in a padded cell with nice rubber walls then God help us all.

There are some decent Rangers folk out in cyberspace but the well known bloggers and the Forum types do tend to be nutters.

As an aside I'm just listening to Keith Jackson of the ****** relating the whole sorry mess to an Australian audience. It's actually one of the best summaries I've heard and totally lacking in the agenda bullsh*t that the bloggers peddle.

[Spike Mandela]

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I think you're right Spike and if Leggat isn't in a padded cell with nice rubber walls then God help us all.

There are some decent Rangers folk out in cyberspace but the well known bloggers and the Forum types do tend to be nutters.

As an aside I'm just listening to Keith Jackson of the ****** relating the whole sorry mess to an Australian audience. It's actually one of the best summaries I've heard and totally lacking in the agenda bullsh*t that the bloggers peddle.

Daily Record and Jackson blow in the wind depending on the view of their Rangers readership. In recent months they were effectively a press release for King, Murray and regime change.

Lacking in agenda, don't agree.

[AndyM_1875]

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Daily Record and Jackson blow in the wind depending on the view of their Rangers readership. In recent months they were effectively a press release for King, Murray and regime change.

Lacking in agenda, don't agree.

Sorry should have said lacking in Old Firm fruitcake agenda.
Agenda for Daily Record sales well that's a given. Whatever King or big Peter of Parkhead trumpet out, they'll carry it like a standard and peddle it to the eejits.

Whilst there's more than a touch of 'wise after the event' about Jackson, I still find him easier to listen to than obvious agenda nutter bigots like McMurdo or Phil.

[Hibs07p]

I don't see the point of The Rangers going into admin again, unless the present board are being patsies for someone else, currently unconnected to the club. If they went under again, the current board couldn't be part of a "The The Rangers" in the future, so, if it was to happen again, to dump all of the Mash contracts, who's being lined up to benefit?

GGTTH

[CropleyWasGod]

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I don't see the point of The Rangers going into admin again, unless the present board are being patsies for someone else, currently unconnected to the club. If they went under again, the current board couldn't be part of a "The The Rangers" in the future, so, if it was to happen again, to dump all of the Mash contracts, who's being lined up to benefit?

GGTTH

Yes they could.

Company goes into administration, CVA is achieved, company continues to trade with same Board in place.

Think you're confusing this with the previous situation, where the old Rangers went into liquidation.

[southsider]

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Yes they could.

Company goes into administration, CVA is achieved, company continues to trade with same Board in place.

Think you're confusing this with the previous situation, where the old Rangers went into liquidation.

And King is not yet on the board

[ancient hibee]

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Is that possibly in relation to football fans in the West of Scotland?

I have a few mates who support Morton and St Mirren and most of them seem to have a preference for an Old Firm team as a second team.

Some hate the OF with a passion though.

Most of the The Rangers inclined ones have turned their support back towards their local team over the past few years though. Pleasing, as they say.


(I'm trying to be devil's advocate here as much as anything, I think it is a staggering statement. I can't remember a time that Rangers weren't despised by every fan of every other team other than some through in the West and some clowns down South who support similarly odious clubs.)

I think we all know how fans in the West decide who their "second favourite team"is going to be.

[Bostonhibby]

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If he's non UK resident, he only pays tax on any UK income, which I'd imagine is close to zero.

Was curious about what he might do if he returned messiah like to live in a tenement in Govan, to be with his peepul.

[Hibs07p]

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Yes they could.

Company goes into administration, CVA is achieved, company continues to trade with same Board in place.

Think you're confusing this with the previous situation, where the old Rangers went into liquidation.

Would Mash not have something to say about that with him being a major creditor? Surely he wouldn't agree to a CVA?

GGTTH

[CropleyWasGod]

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Would Mash not have something to say about that with him being a major creditor? Surely he wouldn't agree to a CVA?

GGTTH

MASH wouldn't have a say in a CVA.. Their debt is secured, so would be paid first. It's the unsecured creditors that vote for a CVA.

[Hibs07p]

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MASH wouldn't have a say in a CVA.. Their debt is secured, so would be paid first. It's the unsecured creditors that vote for a CVA.

It's obvious I've learned F'all from the previous 919 pages of this thread, so I will quit now, I just don't see any benefit for anyone if The Rangers deliberately go into admin once more.

GGTTH

[Eyrie]

Technical question for CWG please.

If Sevco Huns go into administration, can they make players redundant as a way to end their overpaid contracts? And if so, could they also end the Sports Direct contracts that Ashley holds?

[Ozyhibby]

http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/on-the-level/
Backs up the rumour among Sevconians that Park feels like he's been left holding the baby and it probably where he got it from but still enjoyable reading.

[Hermit Crab]

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As it says on the tin - papers lodged at Court of Session

Nah, I don't believe you.

[Ozyhibby]

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Technical question for CWG please.

If Sevco Huns go into administration, can they make players redundant as a way to end their overpaid contracts? And if so, could they also end the Sports Direct contracts that Ashley holds?

Yes and Yes are the answers I think

[CropleyWasGod]

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Technical question for CWG please.

If Sevco Huns go into administration, can they make players redundant as a way to end their overpaid contracts? And if so, could they also end the Sports Direct contracts that Ashley holds?

On the first, absolutely.

The second will depend on the wording of the contracts. The answer is probably yes, but this is a soap opera, remember