Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[jacomo]

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According to the The Hun next door The Rangers are paying all their wages. He suspects it is to make The Rangers more indebt to Ashley and hurry through his plans, whatever they may be. Wouldn't surprise me if he charged them a fee as well.

Well, as far as we know they haven't been late with any wage payments this season.

However, they also need loans to see them through the season, which means they are spending more than they have.

[Ronniekirk]

So King media conference seems to be putting the message out that he has enough backing and votes to become key player at next meeting which is imminent ? he also seems to be implying a new manager would be brought in . Anyone who has been following this of the view that this will now probably happen ,or is it more posturing and trying to get leverage over Ashley

[Bostonhibby]

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So King media conference seems to be putting the message out that he has enough backing and votes to become key player at next meeting which is imminent ? he also seems to be implying a new manager would be brought in . Anyone who has been following this of the view that this will now probably happen ,or is it more posturing and trying to get leverage over Ashley

King will only succeed if Ashley isn't actually wanting to own the club outright, either directly or indirectly. If Ashley actually had no intention of owning the club or it's assets all along he is well placed to make a big profit on exiting.

King is either underestimating the strength of Ashleys position or more likely he gets it but is trading off Ashleys unpopularity with the zombie hordes to endear himself to them and maybe hope they won't see his track record as a problem.

Ashley will get whatever it is he wants out of this.

[Bostonhibby]

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What's the likely outcome, if Dave King is successful in ousting the board at their General meeting in a few weeks time? What are the implications for Ashley, his financial loans and his loanee players?

They will still have to repay the loans, Ashley might not be predisposed to payment holidays, extensions or anything else and if they ain't paid early or on time he has some nice securities in place. The players are probably the rangers for the duration unless Newcastle want them back and none of them are a part of their immediate plans. Maybe there will be issues over who pays them?

IMO

[mca]

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i was really hopin they were not going sign anyone. I still see them a danger in the play offs, anything can happen in 2 games of football no matter what's happened earlier the season.

If That Happens - Guaranteed on CT being referee..

[portycabbage]

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What's the likely outcome, if Dave King is successful in ousting the board at their General meeting in a few weeks time? What are the implications for Ashley, his financial loans and his loanee players?

I don't think Llambias and Leach are going to be ousted, given that the terms of the recent £10m Ashley loan include Sports Direct being entitled to appoint 2 directors until it's paid back-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31010900 (relevant bit beneath picture of Dave King's puss).

[Bostonhibby]

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I don't think Llambias and Leach are going to be ousted, given that the terms of the recent £10m Ashley loan include Sports Direct being entitled to appoint 2 directors until it's paid back-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31010900 (relevant bit beneath picture of Dave King's puss).

Clever man Ashley, they really are dealing with a guy who wont be scared away.

[portycabbage]

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Clever man Ashley, they really are dealing with a guy who wont be scared away.

Dave King doesn't sound like he's for paying up anytime soon (so that the 2 Ashley-appointed directors can be voted off), and is talking of working with Ashley rather than ousting him-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31139420

[Jim44]

So, effectively, if King and his cronies get control at the GM, and bite the bullet by repaying all Ashley's loans, including early repayment penalties, the The Rangers could land on their feet in the not too distant future? ............. Disappointing if so.

[Bostonhibby]

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Dave King doesn't sound like he's for paying up anytime soon (so that the 2 Ashley-appointed directors can be voted off), and is talking of working with Ashley rather than ousting him-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31139420

This is an important point, there are many Rangers "people" and King talking money but in the case of the "people", bears or whatever they are called its not the banks money this time, it needs to be their own and they haven't (can't?) actually put up to the extent Ashley has. King is an unknown but again, loads of early noise but nae £££££.

Ashley doesn't need to play with King at this stage.

[Deansy]

'Dave King:‘Tax fight proves I’m man for Rangers’

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...gers-1-3680580


'“I showed resilience, I was willing to put money in, I was tenacious. That is what Rangers need right now. Some of the things I demonstrated in my fight in South Africa is what the club needs. I will hang around. I fought there for 11 years and I won. That is important, if you look at what happened, I won in the end and came out on top against the State'

He 'won' ??


Give it a week or so and our media will be portraying King's version as 'The Real Story' !!

[Bostonhibby]

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'Dave King:‘Tax fight proves I’m man for Rangers’

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...gers-1-3680580


'“I showed resilience, I was willing to put money in, I was tenacious. That is what Rangers need right now. Some of the things I demonstrated in my fight in South Africa is what the club needs. I will hang around. I fought there for 11 years and I won. That is important, if you look at what happened, I won in the end and came out on top against the State'

He 'won' ??


Give it a week or so and our media will be portraying King's version as 'The Real Story' !!

The judge had a funny way of telling him he was a winner! His attitude towards der hun makes me think he could be even worse for them than whyte. Only has to totally defeat Ashley, pass the fit and proper person test then put up tens of millions to buy the assets back and fund the club.

[lapsedhibee]

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He 'won' ??

In much the same way that the the local huns claim to have won their tax tribunal thingy.

[PatHead]

Who needs a fax machine when Ashley tells you the first 5 names on the teamsheet? Doesn't have undue influence though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31145792

[bighairyfaeleith]

Brilliant, two of the loan signings are injured before they even arrived

[Jack]

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'Dave King:‘Tax fight proves I’m man for Rangers’

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...gers-1-3680580


'“I showed resilience, I was willing to put money in, I was tenacious. That is what Rangers need right now. Some of the things I demonstrated in my fight in South Africa is what the club needs. I will hang around. I fought there for 11 years and I won. That is important, if you look at what happened, I won in the end and came out on top against the State'

He 'won' ??


Give it a week or so and our media will be portraying King's version as 'The Real Story' !!

... and the State agree NOT!

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In 2011, a High Court Judge in North Gauteng, castigated King. Judge Brian Southwood said that the court was "unanimous in finding that he (King) is a mendacious witness whose evidence should not be accepted on any issue unless it is supported by documents and other objective evidence. It was remarkable that King showed no sign of embarrassment or any emotion when he conceded that he had lied to the (SARS) commissioner in a number of his income tax returns. In our assessment, he is a glib and shameless liar."

Moan the Judge

[Ronniekirk]

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Brilliant, two of the loan signings are injured before they even arrived

I wonder how many of the Five are happy about their Loan moves and when they were told . If they are guaranteed a place every week if fit that must cause unrest in dressing room Wonder if McDowal will follow instructions on this one or are they hoping he walks

[silverhibee]

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He hasn't played an official match for Newcastle though.

Oops, just read the article, looks like Under 21 games count.

Not in Scotland though, SFA rules just been changed.

[Biggie]

Sorry, but McDowall should just down tools and walk...he's not short of a bob or two and would leave with some dignity instead of being seen by all and sundry to be getting done up the arse.

[Future17]

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Not in Scotland though, SFA rules just been changed.

I don't think that matters does it? It's FIFA's rules that are the relevant point.

With Ben Arfa, the English FA said they don't consider U21 games as "official" fixtures, but FIFA said they do and, therefore, he was prevented from playing for Nice.

[Deansy]

The thing is, WE won't be laughing if these guys DO make a difference !!. The Huns are trying to repeat what they did in the SPL for years - finishing high-up in the league with players they CAN'T afford and costing every other club their final-position pay-out !!

[The Hibee Harp]

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The thing is, WE won't be laughing if these guys DO make a difference !!. The Huns are trying to repeat what they did in the SPL for years - finishing high-up in the league with players they CAN'T afford and costing every other club their final-position pay-out !!

This!

[hibbytam]

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I don't think that matters does it? It's FIFA's rules that are the relevant point.

With Ben Arfa, the English FA said they don't consider U21 games as "official" fixtures, but FIFA said they do and, therefore, he was prevented from playing for Nice.

If this guy is allowed to play, I think Ben Arfa's lawyer might be interested. Certainly seems that both cases are identical, but with different clubs involved.

[KeithTheHibby]

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The thing is, WE won't be laughing if these guys DO make a difference !!. The Huns are trying to repeat what they did in the SPL for years - finishing high-up in the league with players they CAN'T afford and costing every other club their final-position pay-out !!

5 Newcastle reserves? If they were any good they would be out on loan in England instead of a league comparable with the 4th tier of english football.

In the past we have had Tom Soares, Matt Doherty, Keigan Ayre and George Francombe who all came from EPL sides. Neither of them made a difference and were punted back. Jay Sinclair and Matt Kennedy this season also spring to mind.
If it's true what McDowall says then these 5 loanees are only going to split the dressing room, not enhance the team.

[Ozyhibby]

[The Pointer]

Hmm....page 888 of this thread. How appropriate.

[greenginger]

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Where did that feed come from. It has not been picked up on Kerrydale Street.

Funnily enough I saw in one of the reports this morning King was claiming W H Ireland were not fit and proper NOMADs because King claims ( wrongly ) that they had been appointed by Green.

[pacorosssco]

hope as good as our loans tended to be. cheating. arent rangers fc 50 league winners. fact. they were liquidated

[Jack]

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hope as good as our loans tended to be. cheating. arent rangers fc 50 league winners. fact. they were liquidated

Would you like to try again in joined up English?

[Ozyhibby]

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Where did that feed come from. It has not been picked up on Kerrydale Street.

Funnily enough I saw in one of the reports this morning King was claiming W H Ireland were not fit and proper NOMADs because King claims ( wrongly ) that they had been appointed by Green.

Found it on twitter. No idea of it's accuracy.