Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[greenginger]

Whats with the Rangers fans getting their knickers in a twist because a security is being taken out over Ibrox ?

I'm sure LLoyds Bank would have had a security when they were owed £ 20 million + , before Craig Whyte came along.

[Ronniekirk]

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Whats with the Rangers fans getting their knickers in a twist because a security is being taken out over Ibrox ?

I'm sure LLoyds Bank would have had a security when they were owed £ 20 million + , before Craig Whyte came along.

It's because it's Ashley that is looking for it Sispect if it was the three bears or King they wouldn't be trying to take the moral high ground .Thev whole situation is now getting cranked up with a view to forcing the Easdales out and letting real Rangers fans put thier money in and take control .

[Wee Scottie Dug]

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Is there the power in these meetings to get rid of the board?

Yes, with enough shareholders backing the motion to get rid of the board it can be done ....... Will they get enough backing? Probably yes - with the anti Ashley campaign in full swing! Can they do it before he gets the security of ipox & Murray park? No idea of that one!

[Bostonhibby]

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Whats with the Rangers fans getting their knickers in a twist because a security is being taken out over Ibrox ?

I'm sure LLoyds Bank would have had a security when they were owed £ 20 million + , before Craig Whyte came along.

Lloyds bank / HBOS were previously a lot more friendly to the now defunct Glasgow Rangers - not now though, no banks will be without massive guarantees, or massive guarantors in the case of Ashley. Mon big Mike, you know you want to

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[Oscar T Grouch]

Interesting article by Speirs on the rangers.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...rs-have-fallen

[jacomo]

Convicted fraudster and director during Craig Whyte's tenure vows to 'clean up' Rangers.

http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...ions-1-3664643

As article says, the idea that Dave King us the answer is a sick joke.

[Bostonhibby]

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Convicted fraudster and director during Craig Whyte's tenure vows to 'clean up' Rangers.

http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...ions-1-3664643

As article says, the idea that Dave King us the answer is a sick joke.

Indeed,but the real issue will be whether anyone can pass the new boy fans and the SPFL fat & protestant person test.

Fit & proper had been an irrelevance at the now defunct Glasgow rangers for decades.

[ACLeith]

Of the 2 articles the Scotsman is by far the best, by telling it a bit like it is. As for Spiers, he misses - deliberately or otherwise - the key issues.

"Once the great bastion of Scottish and British football" - I agree that they are a true bunch of "bastions".

"a diehard. Traditional Rangers fans embrace the Union Jack, not just for its colours but for its British/Union significance"
"The Ibrox club for decades practiced a sectarian signing policy, which just about everyone concedes today was embarrassing"
But he fails to mention the equally embarrassing sectarian singing (only one letter different!) - is that not embarrassing then GS? TBB sung before the start on Dec 27th hoping that the TV mics would not pick it up and also on Friday night after the abandonment, presumably hoping the same. Re-reading that, I realise it is probably just natural stupidity on their part

"leaves Wigtown in Scotland’s southwest with his fellow fans for the two-and-a-half hour bus ride up to Glasgow… " - highlights one of the age-old issues without realising he is stating the problem.

GS - a journalist who superficially seems to be clever with words, but is just another Rangers apologist.

[PatHead]

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Of the 2 articles the Scotsman is by far the best, by telling it a bit like it is. As for Spiers, he misses - deliberately or otherwise - the key issues.

"Once the great bastion of Scottish and British football" - I agree that they are a true bunch of "bastions".

"a diehard. Traditional Rangers fans embrace the Union Jack, not just for its colours but for its British/Union significance"
"The Ibrox club for decades practiced a sectarian signing policy, which just about everyone concedes today was embarrassing"
But he fails to mention the equally embarrassing sectarian singing (only one letter different!) - is that not embarrassing then GS? TBB sung before the start on Dec 27th hoping that the TV mics would not pick it up and also on Friday night after the abandonment, presumably hoping the same. Re-reading that, I realise it is probably just natural stupidity on their part

"leaves Wigtown in Scotland’s southwest with his fellow fans for the two-and-a-half hour bus ride up to Glasgow… " - highlights one of the age-old issues without realising he is stating the problem.

GS - a journalist who superficially seems to be clever with words, but is just another Rangers apologist.

Also glosses over Murray by basically saying that was how you ran a business then and not that the bank insisted he sell Rangers, hints it was Murray's choice and highlights the Ayr policeman in saying he doesn't blame Murray.

I blame Murray for a lot of the mess our football is in by forcing clubs to overspend if they wanted to keep up.

[ACLeith]

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Also glosses over Murray by basically saying that was how you ran a business then and not that the bank insisted he sell Rangers, hints it was Murray's choice and highlights the Ayr policeman in saying he doesn't blame Murray.

I blame Murray for a lot of the mess our football is in by forcing clubs to overspend if they wanted to keep up.

I agree PH. There were more points I could have made on GS but wanted to stop before I lost the will to live! He was NEVER duped by CW over the sale, SDM knew what he was but he had to sell up so would have even sold it to me for £1. Another missed opportunity in my life! Everything he did was to benefit SDM and he is still at it, all IMO of course!

[truehibernian]

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Of the 2 articles the Scotsman is by far the best, by telling it a bit like it is. As for Spiers, he misses - deliberately or otherwise - the key issues.

"Once the great bastion of Scottish and British football" - I agree that they are a true bunch of "bastions".

"a diehard. Traditional Rangers fans embrace the Union Jack, not just for its colours but for its British/Union significance"
"The Ibrox club for decades practiced a sectarian signing policy, which just about everyone concedes today was embarrassing"
But he fails to mention the equally embarrassing sectarian singing (only one letter different!) - is that not embarrassing then GS? TBB sung before the start on Dec 27th hoping that the TV mics would not pick it up and also on Friday night after the abandonment, presumably hoping the same. Re-reading that, I realise it is probably just natural stupidity on their part

"leaves Wigtown in Scotland’s southwest with his fellow fans for the two-and-a-half hour bus ride up to Glasgow… " - highlights one of the age-old issues without realising he is stating the problem.

GS - a journalist who superficially seems to be clever with words, but is just another Rangers apologist.

Spiers sadly is no different to every other 'journalist' - Keevins, Jackson, Chick Young, Tom English..........they are all show, no substance. Really what they are, are bloggers and opinionists.......they are not journalists who investigate the issues, who dig deep into the bones of a story.......why........Channel 4 found out why and found them out........they are the strange but regular bedfellows of the Old Firm, players, management, boardroom........

It took the BBC and Mark Daly to uncover The Rangers mess - not one of the sports/football hacks dared to venture into their mirky waters. After all, why would they bite the hands that feed them

[ACLeith]

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It took the BBC and Mark Daly to uncover The Rangers mess - not one of the sports/football hacks dared to venture into their mirky waters. After all, why would they bite the hands that feed them

I've still got his 2 programmes recorded, I looked at them last summer and it was instructive to view with the benefit of hindsight.

[greenlex]

Anyone giving them a loan that size would want security. What's the big deal? It's a loan. It will be paid back won't it?

[ScottB]

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Anyone giving them a loan that size would want security. What's the big deal? It's a loan. It will be paid back won't it?

Owners should pour money in and be happy to never see it again. Certainly seems like that's the hope over there and why they are clamouring for rich fans to own them. Why else would anyone think King was a solution!

Say what you like about Hearts, but at least they turned to a sensible owner after their years of debt and madness. The Rangers support at large haven't learned that lesson, and dream of another Rangers man riding in to start flashing the cash.

[lapsedhibee]

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Say what you like about Hearts

Thanks. They're *****.

[PatHead]

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Owners should pour money in and be happy to never see it again. Certainly seems like that's the hope over there and why they are clamouring for rich fans to own them. Why else would anyone think King was a solution!

Say what you like about Hearts, but at least they turned to a sensible owner after their years of debt and madness. The Rangers support at large haven't learned that lesson, and dream of another Rangers man riding in to start flashing the cash.

That is almost like a Spiers comment.

She was the only show in town as was Romanov and before that Robinson who only had one other contender (Jim Glass who was a Hibby). Don't know who competed with FTB

[CropleyWasGod]

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That is almost like a Spiers comment.

She was the only show in town as was Romanov and before that Robinson who only had one other contender (Jim Glass who was a Hibby). Don't know who competed with FTB

Kenny Waugh?

[lord bunberry]

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Any meeting that isn't an AGM is now just a GM.

I've been to an EGM

[PatHead]

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Kenny Waugh?

Wonder how life would have panned out if he had got them?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Delighted to say that Richard Gough has joined the RST as a Life Member and Buy
Rangers contributor.


"The RST is delighted to announce that Richard Gough has agreed to join the RST
as a Life Member and contribute to Buy Rangers. The iconic Nine-In-A-Row captain
has joined up to back the fans in their fight for the club ahead of a crucial
upcoming EGM to oust the current board."

[seanshow]

The board has 42 days from the point the EGM is called before any actual decision can be taken to remove them from the club.......spin it right oot Ashley then hopefully der hun can go to the wall again.

And long after the transfer window is shut, which is the important thing as far as we are concerned.

[Andy74]

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I've been to an EGM

So have I.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

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Delighted to say that Richard Gough has joined the RST as a Life Member and Buy
Rangers contributor.


"The RST is delighted to announce that Richard Gough has agreed to join the RST
as a Life Member and contribute to Buy Rangers. The iconic Nine-In-A-Row captain
has joined up to back the fans in their fight for the club ahead of a crucial
upcoming EGM to oust the current board."

Guilt trip

[Bostonhibby]

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Delighted to say that Richard Gough has joined the RST as a Life Member and Buy
Rangers contributor.


"The RST is delighted to announce that Richard Gough has agreed to join the RST
as a Life Member and contribute to Buy Rangers. The iconic Nine-In-A-Row captain
has joined up to back the fans in their fight for the club ahead of a crucial
upcoming EGM to oust the current board."

Maybe they want someone with knowledge of EBT's on board?

Ashley must be terrified now though.

[bingo70]

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So have I.

Did you not say earlier in the thread there's no such thing as an EGM?

Not for the first time on this thread I'm confused.

[Andy74]

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Did you not say earlier in the thread there's no such thing as an EGM?

Not for the first time on this thread I'm confused.

They just aren't called Extraordinary General Meetings any more. The Companies Act 2006 now refers just to Annual General Meetings and General Meetings.

I've been to EGMs. Just not recently.

[CropleyWasGod]

To be fair to Dave King, it wasn't him who used the term. That's the way it's been reported, though.

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They just aren't called Extraordinary General Meetings any more. The Companies Act 2006 now refers just to Annual General Meetings and General Meetings.

I've been to EGMs. Just not recently.

[ACLeith]

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They just aren't called Extraordinary General Meetings any more. The Companies Act 2006 now refers just to Annual General Meetings and General Meetings.

I've been to EGMs. Just not recently.

Everything about this epic saga is extraordinary!

[Deansy]

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Owners should pour money in and be happy to never see it again. Certainly seems like that's the hope over there and why they are clamouring for rich fans to own them. Why else would anyone think King was a solution!

Say what you like about Hearts, but at least they turned to a sensible owner after their years of debt and madness. The Rangers support at large haven't learned that lesson, and dream of another Rangers man riding in to start flashing the cash.

Hearts didn't 'turn to a sensible owner' - they had no say as they were basically up for auction prior to going to the scrapyard. Budge, so far, is doing okay with them but it's early-days yet. Time will tell if she can remain immune to their 'Big team' fantasy ?.