Queen B only sits in the ramshackle stand because that's where the directors box is situated, before she bought the club she had a season ticket for the wheatfield stand. She knows the main stand is a death trap. If a serious incident resulting in death were to occur in that stand there would be many officials within Hearts, The City of Edinburgh Council, Police Scotland and The Fire Department facing serious allegations of negligence, I would go as far as to say some would possibly be facing criminal charges.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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20-12-2014 09:25 AM #181
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20-12-2014 10:16 AM #182This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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20-12-2014 10:21 AM #183
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Kilmarnock
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20-12-2014 12:55 PM #184This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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20-12-2014 02:31 PM #185This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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20-12-2014 02:42 PM #186
It's a wooden shed but it must be safe enough for fans or they wouldn't risk a fan being seriously hurt or killed. We are straw clutching i think.
They will one day need to sort all four stands not just the one until then nothing will shut it down!
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20-12-2014 04:53 PM #187This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If it wasn't safe then how can it be safe now?
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20-12-2014 04:56 PM #188This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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20-12-2014 05:04 PM #190This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And the Police and Fire service turning a blind eye too, no chance, it must be safe for purpose or in this day in age after certain disasters it would be closed down, simple as that.
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20-12-2014 05:09 PM #191This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They'd be done for manslaughter and Hearts would be sued millions. Let's just put this to bed and laugh when they can't afford to upgrade!
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20-12-2014 05:16 PM #192This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They'll be waiting for the Council to step and build a new stadium for them
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20-12-2014 05:33 PM #193This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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20-12-2014 05:37 PM #194This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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20-12-2014 05:42 PM #195This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The council were willing to act illegally over the Lochend Butterfly, the council were willing to knock Hibs back over Huntershall whilst paying Hearts "rent" for a section of their ground.
Person all only been in their stand twice and apart from the materials it's made from I didn't think it was very safe.
Still, better not have any bad words to say about EC, they are busy what with covering up the Compulsory Repairs scandal and shredding all those Tram documents.
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20-12-2014 05:56 PM #196
#allisbarry at it again - Yams accounts
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On the topic of the trams I was on a stag with one of the head guys that done the contract. They hired a German firm for it and the messed the council about big time! Started asking for more money for metal etc and just kept increasing it. If the council stopped there and then they would have had to pay the company the original fee along with starting again. Now the EC are suing them and there will be a public enquiry about the way the council were backed into a corner!
For the record I still think the trams are a waste of space and money!
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20-12-2014 06:06 PM #197This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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20-12-2014 06:17 PM #198
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Your chum at the stag do is trying to rewrite history-not surprising if he was involved in drawing up the contract which has been described as not fit for purpose.
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20-12-2014 06:24 PM #199This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You may well be correct I wasn't involved in any of the plans and still think it was a huge shambles but I wanted to put across a fact not fiction as will be seen in the public enquiry! The German firm did hold there EC over a barrel regarding their deal! But EC prob should have made sure in their contract that nothing like that could happen!
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20-12-2014 06:28 PM #200This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
r gas electricity ect moved to one side of the road as the tram lines require to be built on solid ground and also for any possible inconvenience when works are necessary on these services. The council was given 18 months to carry out this enabling work, they failed to do it. When the Germans pitched up they found that they were on down time from day one. They were stunned to discover that the enabling works hadn't been carried out and this set off a chain of delays and penalties which we have now become familiar with. The enquiry may find that putting a couple of folk from the social work department with no experience of the construction industry in charge of such a major development wasn't their finest decision. The council is a den of chancers and amateurs from top to bottom. I wouldn't let them run a school nativity play, they would Dress Mary as Herod and would put someone from the statutory housing repairs fiasco in charge of stable and mainger maintenance
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20-12-2014 06:34 PM #201This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don't trust many folk in the council and they certainly fail in many departments. But back to the stand issue. I think if you believe folk are giving back handers to hearts to keep it open I personally think you have to be deluded! Sorry for going against the grain as I hate them as much as anybody but we sound a bunch of desperate idiots at times when it comes to their affairs over the road.
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20-12-2014 06:39 PM #202This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We really do need to get the chips of our shoulders when it comes to them and concentrate on supporting Hibs.
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20-12-2014 06:41 PM #203
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20-12-2014 06:44 PM #204This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They have been using delaying tactics for nearly 15 years, we are moving/ we have plans for a new stand. Now Budge has joined the game by talking about moving again.
The very least the Council should do is reduce the stand capacity significantly and force them to rebuild or move.
As for the trams, I think the single biggest cost increase was for moving services under the tram route. The Council employed a company that had never done that kind of work before and estimated at less than a quarter of the final cost.
Of course a proper cost estimate would never seen the tram project get to first base.
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20-12-2014 06:45 PM #205This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'm not saying it's perfect far from it. But do I think it's safe to hold fans? Yes I do.
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20-12-2014 06:46 PM #206
They shouldn't be allowed in the SPFL while they have that deathtrap stand. If it was up to me, i'd duduct 25pts from them right now, put a transfer embargo on them, make them play their home matches on the gyle park pitches,take away their history,make Ally Mcoist their manager and get the council to wash gorgie road with very strong disinfectant.
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20-12-2014 06:48 PM #207This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Again I don't work for the council and I don't agree with the trams either. Just putting a guy who I know point across. He worked on it and did say there was many failings at all levels. But then went onto talk about how the German firm shafted them. I'm sure he's biased as it's his job but I can prob say he knows more about it than almost anyone on here!
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20-12-2014 06:49 PM #208This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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20-12-2014 06:50 PM #209This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And how much concentration do you think it requires to support hibs? Do you not think we have the mental capacity to switch between two subjects?
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20-12-2014 07:26 PM #210
So for the last 15 years or so the Council, Fire Brigade and other bodies involved have just been turning a blind eye to the state of that stand and know it is unsafe and god forbid if there was a fire or the stand collapsed they will be happy to have that on there conscious for the rest of there life, it is 2014 and if the stand was not safe for purpose it would have been closed down by now, it is safe to say that the stand is safe or it wouldn't get the safety certificate, Council Fire brigade, Electrician, Gas company and who ever else it takes to get it passed safe have said nothing all theses years, no chance, they (yams) must be doing what is required to get things passed by all parties, FFS we are talking about a stand that holds over 1000 people and folk high up in places in Edinburgh are just buying that the past or present owners of this stand just because they are submitting or talking about moving/building a new stand would have still been waiting to see what happens, once again, no chance, it would have been closed down by now no matter who was dealing with it.
Was Partick Thistles main stand not closed down for a bit or limited to so many folk being allowed in the stand at one time, now the whole stand is open for away fans, Thistle reps must no folk in Glasgow council to get round this sort of thing as there stand is as just as much a dump as Tynie, they seem to be getting a safety certificate for there stand or is every club in Scotland with rickety old stands bribing there councilor's to pass there old stands safe.
Yes the Savilledome is a dump but they must be meeting requirements that makes it pass this safety certificate, no one in there right mind from the council or fire brigade would be daft enough to pass it safe if it wasn't and ruin there own life by telling lies and the life's of others.
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