Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Aldo]

Just had a Sky Ports News update on phone saying that der Hun have confirmed to Stock Exchange that Sally has indeed resigned.

[Hibernia&Alba]

He won't be there 12 months, it's an impossible situation. £750,000 for being a complete a failure, and this on a weekend matches across Scotland were collecting for food banks.

[Ronniekirk]

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Just had a Sky Ports News update on phone saying that der Hun have confirmed to Stock Exchange that Sally has indeed resigned.

Said last night there was going to be a meeting on Thursday this week that would clarify matters so wonder if things are accelerating and if Ashley is putting plans in place behind the scenes and McCoist is making sure he is in strong bargaining position before things hot up

[EdinMike]

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"12 months notice"

So are they paying him in a lump sum or is this "Butcher-esque Gardening Leave"

[Oscar T Grouch]

It would work either way. Probably best for them to put him on gardening leave as they'd only have to wait until he's got another...... Oh they're better paying him off 😜

[CropleyWasGod]

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"12 months notice"

So are they paying him in a lump sum or is this "Butcher-esque Gardening Leave"

...or the third way, where he works his notice.

[blackpoolhibs]

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...or the third way, where he works his notice.

Wasnt that happening with blobby until Plymouth come in and stole him from us?

[Bishop Hibee]

£750K clause for last year of contract triggered by handing in his notice! Charles Green is a legend :green grin

Heard this one to the tune of 'Achy Breaky Heart'. Figure at the end altered from the original miserly £450K.

You can't sack McCoist, Alistair McCoist, I just don't think you understand
That if you sack McCoist, Alistair McCoist, you'll pay 750 grand

[The Hibee Harp]

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Well are we the same club? We were called Hibernians, formed in 1875. Played at Hibernians park. Went out of business in 1891 due to celtic taking half our team and heavy mismanagement and formed back again in 1892. Changed our name to Hibernian and moved to easter road. Why do we say we were formed in 1875 and not 1892? Does that mean we have only one the Scottish cup once in 1901-1902 season and not the 1886-1887 season?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hibernian_F.C.

Off topic, but we were never officially called Hibernians, we were refered to by that name but we were always called Hibernian Football Club.

[Benny Brazil]

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His wages now rise to 750k after he triggered the 12 month to go clause. Hats off to the agent that negotiated that

And yet part of the reason he handed in his resignation is his concern over admin staff losing their jobs??
He doesnt do walking away - for nothing.

[rubber mal]

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You can't sack McCoist, Alistair McCoist, I just don't think you understand
That if you sack McCoist, Alistair McCoist, you'll pay 750 grand

[CropleyWasGod]

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Off topic, but we were never officially called Hibernians, we were refered to by that name but we were always called Hibernian Football Club.

And just to muddy the waters even more, the company that is Hibernian Football Club Limited didn't come into being until 1902......

[Aldo]

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Said last night there was going to be a meeting on Thursday this week that would clarify matters so wonder if things are accelerating and if Ashley is putting plans in place behind the scenes and McCoist is making sure he is in strong bargaining position before things hot up

Cheers for that Ronnie. Didn't realise that!!

[The Hibee Harp]

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And just to muddy the waters even more, the company that is Hibernian Football Club Limited didn't come into being until 1902......

A good year....

[The Hibee Harp]

For me, McCoist is working his ticket out of Rangers. IMO he has given up on the title and is now trying to get Rangers to pay him off. There is no way the club can afford for him to remain in that position when he a) doesn't want to be there, and b) cannot plan properly for next season.

I cannot see him remain in his position and go into a new season knowing he has only a few months left but being allowed to bring new players in!

My gut feeling is that he knows something is about to give at Rangers, whether that is another financial imploding or whether it is that he would likely lose his bigger players in this window, I dont know.

[AndyM_1875]

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"12 months notice"

So are they paying him in a lump sum or is this "Butcher-esque Gardening Leave"

They're bound to put him on Gardening Leave whilst they negotiate a settlement.
Rangers need to move on and appoint Billy Davies/Stuart McCall (if they're sensible) or Terry Butcher(if they are insane) .

Guess it all depends how much hard ball McCoist wants to play with Ashley and vice versa.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Sally and Ashley to sumo wrestle for the 750K. Hard to pick a winner.

[Northernhibee]

Always said I liked Fat Sally.

[Kaiser1962]

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Don't forget that when TRFC played their first ever game there were TWO 'Rangers' CLUBS. Players in that game were registered as trialists.

I recall that The Rangers played most, if not all, of their season in Division Three registered with the SFA as Sevco. Cant find the proof at this time but don't think I imagined it and will keep looking.

I get, but don't necessarily buy, the "emotional" argument though although the ship of Theseus springs to mind.

[Kaiser1962]

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And just to muddy the waters even more, the company that is Hibernian Football Club Limited didn't come into being until 1902......

11th April 1903 (I think)

Something must have happened about that time as there is a whole raft of clubs, some that had been around for a wee while, becoming incorporated around the turn of the century.

HOM, as we all know, became incorporated in March 1903 only to go bust two years later, reappearing as a new entity on 29th April 1905. The emotional argument would be equally applicable over 100 years ago.

[CropleyWasGod]

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11th April 1903 (I think)

Something must have happened about that time as there is a whole raft of clubs, some that had been around for a wee while, becoming incorporated around the turn of the century.

HOM, as we all know, became incorporated in March 1903 only to go bust two years later, reappearing as a new entity on 29th April 1905. The emotional argument would be equally applicable over 100 years ago.

You're right about the 1903.... does that mean that the SC win doesn't count?

It might be that new corporate legislation came about that year, or the governing body changed, or or or.... However, I don't think we would argue that we became a new club in 1903.

[Weststandwanab]

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Where did you learn to play darts?

I do not play darts that seems obvious now !

Just recall crowds going crazy and the term One Hundred and Eighty

Ooopppsss

[Mr White]

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I do not play darts that seems obvious now !

Bullseye

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Just recall crowds going crazy and the term One Hundred and Eighty

You misinterpreted

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Ooopppsss

Indeed

[jacomo]

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Of course, you are completely right - it will run on and I will argue that oldco died and newco is a new co with no history beyond a D2 and a D1 title. Well aware that oldco fans will argue the opposite, but then of course they would

Fine, but if this club really has no history prior to 2012, why do you care about them and why does this thread still run?

Let's face it - the corporate entity is different but The Rangers is Rangers - same s****, new set up.

[jacomo]

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Poor Swally only resigned because he's upset that other people have lost their jobs!!



What an odious fat man he is. If he was worried about other people losing their jobs, he wouldn't be screwing so much money out of the club himself.

[Mr White]

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Fine, but if this club really has no history prior to 2012, why do you care about them and why does this thread still run?

Let's face it - the corporate entity is different but The Rangers is Rangers - same s****, new set up.

Maybe so but there are some significant differences. First off they really do care that people don't like them and secondly it's soooo much easier to wind the thick *******s up since liquidation

[Andy74]

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Poor Swally only resigned because he's upset that other people have lost their jobs!!



What an odious fat man he is. If he was worried about other people losing their jobs, he wouldn't be screwing so much money out of the club himself.

Yep, he's so concerned that he is going back up to taking £750k wages. Good on him.

[jacomo]

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Maybe so but there are some significant differences. First off they really do care that people don't like them and secondly it's soooo much easier to wind the thick *******s up since liquidation

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30475395

True. This sort of story also annoys me... Rangers were 'demoted' in 2012. They were not. They went out of business, re-applied to the football league and were given a place in the 4th tier.

[crewetollhibee]

Hate McCoist with a passion, but to play Devil's advocate for a moment. I don't think he will see taking his last inflated salary as coming from the fans, but from the owners, and better in his wallet than theirs. No way would him walking away(pun intended), mean that said monies would find their way to the fans. Great fun though isn't it ?

[Onion]

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Poor Swally only resigned because he's upset that other people have lost their jobs!!



What an odious fat man he is. If he was worried about other people losing their jobs, he wouldn't be screwing so much money out of the club himself.

NewHuns are the best pantomime in town, and it's FREE

Expect them to reach settlement with McCoist this week, however his short career in football management is over. He should never have been given the Sevco job and is walking away before he fails to win the 1st Div with the biggest player budget by far. Back to being Cheeky Chappy on the BBC .. or maybe put in a call to his pal Regan once he gets FA job (hopefully).

All that's left is for Sevco to appoint Butcher before the curtain goes down