#hibileaks/Hands On Hibs/BuyHibs (Merged)

[Andy74]

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True, but they would probably ask some very difficult questions of a chairman and chief exec who put in place a strategy that was leading to decline in all of the key areas of the business, over a medium term period.

True but we don't really know what questions or discussions have taken place in that respect.

[grunt]

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True, but they would probably ask some very difficult questions of a chairman and chief exec ...

Well the questions they've asked so far haven't been very difficult. More daft than difficult.

[Andy74]

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This maybe needs a new thread

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...-bid-1-3600325

The club survey suggested it wasn't a priority for most people though. I've no interest in owning the club or paying a monthly fee towards it. Suspect most will be the same. We don't have the same need for it as hearts who despite the wording in this article aren't owned by fans either just now.

[blackpoolhibs]

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True but we don't really know what questions or discussions have taken place in that respect.

The questions may well have been asked, but they sure as hell have not been answered with actions to put things right?

LD coming in could be the start of something good at Hibs, but until such times as were are competing at the right end of the top league in Scotland, i certainly won't be getting carried away about wins against ANYONE in this league.

The decline of our club has not been an overnight thing, and questions should have been asked many many times, but when the supporters asked the very questions we all wanted answers to, STF gave us the answer.

He wished he had 100 Petries, the very man he put in charge who was running the club on his behalf during this decline.

So forgive me Andy for not giving a toss about any question STF may have asked, as he's been far too stubborn to get rid of the very man who took us to where we currently are.

[Ronniekirk]

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The club survey suggested it wasn't a priority for most people though. I've no interest in owning the club or paying a monthly fee towards it. Suspect most will be the same. We don't have the same need for it as hearts who despite the wording in this article aren't owned by fans either just now.

Sir Tom isn't going to be around forever and at some point the issue of succession has to be addressed . If there is to be an AGM at some point in next few months it would be goog to hear him directly give us ,the Fans ,his view on how he sees things developing ,as at present we have different groups looking supposedly to buy him out on back of Petrie Out rally .Reports then get released in Media that Sir Tom is in no Hurray to sell and suitors are rebuked .

Any new attempt at buying him out surely has to start with some dialogue with Sir Tom indicating he is open to that idea or will it not become another side show ,circus media frenzy at a point when as a Club we finally look like we are turning a corner and finally going in the right Direction from the change instituted by Leeann .
Would happily fork out a one off lump sum to buy shares as I have done in the past but any monthly contribution is not for me as it would be at the expense of contributing to other projects that already benefit the club ,like Leith Links .and the Hibernians . Most ordinary Fans have a limit to what they can put in .
But there is clearly appetite for change in some quarters ,and Petrie remains a devisive figure , but we need clarity and details and open dialogue with key people .

If current new plan is just being fronted by ex players as a way of flying a kite to see what current interest in paying a monthly amount from fans might be ,in an attempt to put pressure on Sir Tom then it may not be best way to get the positive change we want .

But the issues aren't going to go away ,so looks like we may have to see what happens with this new development .

[CropleyWasGod]

At the meeting on 5th November 2014 the Chairman, Chief Executive and representatives of the football club's board requested Hands On Hibs halt our activities directly aimed at the majority shareholder, Tom Farmer. They assured us the Board was on the verge of publishing proposals for the future which would address our campaigns twin objectives. Namely, Hibernian FC future secured at Easter Road and that the club and stadium be moved into community ownership.

The board promised that these proposals, which we were told they had been working on for many months, would be published speedily and discussed at the club's AGM which the Chairman and Chief Executive both said would happen before Christmas. This was crucial as it allowed fans to consider the Board's proposals & respond. It also ensured these plans were not just another diversion but would have the support for community ownership endorsed, publicly, by Tom Farmer at the AGM. The commitment for this to happen before Christmas was mutually agreed and crucial.

Hands On Hibs, after discussion with our activists, not only agreed to temporarily halt our activities directed at the Club's owner but we went further. We agreed to work with the board to create a positive backdrop for their announcement. We agreed to work with the club on positive initiatives, like a foodbank collection, to move the club back to the centre of the community.

Hands On Hibs have kept our side of the agreement. The Board have not.

When Hands On Hibs announced our plans for the foodbank collection, in association with the Trussell Trust, we asked the Board to support this positive initiative as it was clearly within the terms of our agreement. Instead we discovered they had secretly arranged a meeting with the Trussell Trust (a meeting the club's Chief executive failed to turn up for) in order to organise an alternative foodbank collection on the same day as our supporters initiative. After admitting they did not have the skills or imagination to make that happen they abandoned these plans and told the Trussell Trust they would return to the matter in 2015!

Although disappointed that the Board had acted in bad faith, HOH contacted the club again asking them to back the foodbank collection. Last week they finally agreed to do this and committed themselves to using their website, social media etc to promote the collection. However as of today they have still not done anything. And this morning we find them using their PR department to advertise corporate dinners inside Easter Road at the same time as fans will holding a foodbank collection outside.

We have no problem with the club selling corporate packages but this PR decision clearly demonstrates what is wrong with Hibernian. Rather than help a supporters initiative in aid of people with nothing the club see everything as an opportunity to take more money from the fans. And despite the clubs origins they show scant interest in putting anything back into the community.

The most serious breach of trust has been the Board's failure to honour their commitment to publish their proposals for Hibernian's future. Hands On Hibs kept our word. We halted our campaign of direct action. We worked to create a positive backdrop for the board's proposals. The Board did not keep their word. More than a month has passed and still silence.

Hands On Hibs today demand the majority shareholder now intervenes. The Club must immediately publish the annual accounts, their much vaunted proposals for the future and call an AGM. The strategic drift, information vacuum and apathy at Hibernian FC cannot continue.

Hands On Hibs thank our activists for their patience, discipline and hard work. HOH restate our independent position. We are not involved with any group or consortium seeking control of Hibs. HOH are not interest in a role at the football club. We only want change for the better at Hibernian. Now is time for all Hibs fans to unite and force change.

Support The Team Not The Board!

Support The Foodbank Collection This Saturday!

[jacomo]

Well well well.

I won't comment on the food bank stuff because I don't know about the ins and outs of that.

But I am intrigued by mention of the Board's 'proposals'. What are they, and should they really have been chatting about them in this context?

None of this is helping fans feel a sense of connection with the club, with arguing over the need for imminent change vs 'STF is going nowhere!'

I feel more and more that Hearts have a sense of unity and purpose about them this season which is being reflected on the pitch. We don't.

[emerald green]

Either the board, majority shareholder, or the club's Chief Executive must make an urgent response to the issues raised in the OP.

[happiehibbie]

is there several points for the collection of food ?

great Idea on the food banks

[Peevemor]

Hope this isn't another LD OG!

[JimBHibees]

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Hope this isn't another LD OG!

Another ?

[Pretty Boy]

I knew nothing about a foodbank collection on Saturday.

Seems a good idea this close to Christmas on the face of it and surprised Hibs weren't keen to get on board with it (if the story above is true of course)

[CropleyWasGod]

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I knew nothing about a foodbank collection on Saturday.

Seems a good idea this close to Christmas on the face of it and surprised Hibs weren't keen to get on board with it (if the story above is true of course)

HoH have publicised it on their own Twitter and FB. However, for obvious reasons, that doesn't have as wide an exposure as the Club have.

[Golden Bear]

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Well well well.

I won't comment on the food bank stuff because I don't know about the ins and outs of that.

But I am intrigued by mention of the Board's 'proposals'. What are they, and should they really have been chatting about them in this context?

None of this is helping fans feel a sense of connection with the club, with arguing over the need for imminent change vs 'STF is going nowhere!'

I feel more and more that Hearts have a sense of unity and purpose about them this season which is being reflected on the pitch. We don't.

If there is another side of this story then let's hear it please.

[Weststandwanab]

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Either the board, majority shareholder, or the club's Chief Executive must make an urgent response to the issues raised in the OP.

Tenner says that won't happen anytime soon.

Well done to CWG for posting.

[bingo70]

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I knew nothing about a foodbank collection on Saturday.

Seems a good idea this close to Christmas on the face of it and surprised Hibs weren't keen to get on board with it (if the story above is true of course)

Typical of the club to only communicate with us when they want money though.

Can completely believe the food bank stuff. Be interested to see the club's response. Its half season ticket time so I imagine they'll want to say something to us.

[Peevemor]

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Another ?

She already admitted to a couple when she posted on here (physically removing ST holders' seats was one).

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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She already admitted to a couple when she posted on here (physically removing ST holders' seats was one).

The silence from her on here has been deafening since her wee tantrum.

[superfurryhibby]

An unusual development. If STF really does plan on the kind of action indicated here then this would explain the delay in AGM? Have to say, it's totally bewildering for me. The whole situation is screaming out for clarity.

I like the food bank idea. Good to link the club to community. Shame it seems to have gone a but astray but well done HoH for taking the initiative.

[CropleyWasGod]

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At the meeting on 5th November 2014 the Chairman, Chief Executive and representatives of the football club's board requested Hands On Hibs halt our activities directly aimed at the majority shareholder, Tom Farmer.

Given their latest statement, does this mean that they will now reclaim the moral high ground and re-commence their "activities"?

Or will the fear of legal action prevent that?

[marinello59]

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The silence from her on here has been deafening since her wee tantrum.

Wee tantrum? Really?
It was quite clear from her post on here that she wouldn't be posting again. Probably a wise move.

[Golden Bear]

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She already admitted to a couple when she posted on here (physically removing ST holders' seats was one).

That certainly was an own goal but not directly of her making. She's still relatively new to the job but I'd imagine by now she'll be aware of whom she can delegate responsibilities and be confident of the outcomes.

[Peevemor]

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That certainly was an own goal but not directly of her making. She's still relatively new to the job but I'd imagine by now she'll be aware of whom she can delegate responsibilities and be confident of the outcomes.

Fair enough, but she's been quick enough to say that she has total control over the day to day running of the club. If someone screwed up after being delegated to do something, unfortunately for LD the buck still stops with her.

[silverhibee]

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This bit:-

At the meeting on 5th November 2014 the Chairman, Chief Executive and representatives of the football club's board requested Hands On Hibs halt our activities directly aimed at the majority shareholder, Tom Farmer.

Given their latest statement, does this mean that they will now reclaim the moral high ground and re-commence their "activities"?

Or will the fear of legal action prevent that?

You have constantly said the longer it takes for the club to hold the AGM the more the conspiracies stories will grow and grow.

What are your thoughts on the hold up for the AGM taking place.

As for HOH, i get the impression they will be out in force this weekend.

[CropleyWasGod]

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You have constantly said the longer it takes for the club to hold the AGM the more the conspiracies stories will grow and grow.

What are your thoughts on the hold up for the AGM taking place.

Pretty sure it's to do with the Club wanting to announce their own plans for the future, and making sure that they have it right. The robust questioning that BH have had on here may well informed those plans, as it should, which may have caused a further delay.

Other than that, I've no reason to think it's anything sinister.

[silverhibee]

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Wee tantrum? Really?
It was quite clear from her post on here that she wouldn't be posting again. Probably a wise move.

Was that thread deleted, tried to search it but couldn't find anything.

I thought she was going to communicate with fans through Hibs MBs.

[marinello59]

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Was that thread deleted, tried to search it but couldn't find anything.

Don't think so.

[Tyler Durden]

I'm not sure why anyone would give HOH the benefit of the doubt over the club. I don't recall the club ever making any statement regarding their meeting?

I find it hard to believe HOH were given assurances that the AGM would happen pre Xmas. The club will have valid reasons for the delay and there's no reason to jump to negative conclusions.

As for the foodbank point, Hibs have another charity event this weekend I think, some Santa bus in the car park. Is a food collection on a match day a good idea anyway? I'm not convinced

[jacomo]

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Fair enough, but she's been quick enough to say that she has total control over the day to day running of the club. If someone screwed up after being delegated to do something, unfortunately for LD the buck still stops with her.

Goes with the territory of being boss.

[silverhibee]

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Fair enough, but she's been quick enough to say that she has total control over the day to day running of the club. If someone screwed up after being delegated to do something, unfortunately for LD the buck still stops with her.

I'm shocked.