#hibileaks/Hands On Hibs/BuyHibs (Merged)

**Haymaker** · 19-10-2014 10:44 PM

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Brechin FC

Should be smashing them in for us!

***hibees 7062*** · 19-10-2014 11:01 PM

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Should be smashing them in for us!

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**The Green Goblin** · 19-10-2014 11:22 PM

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No idea what was in the original letters.

Replies are here:

https://m.facebook.com/HolyroodBoxin...pe=1&source=54

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbi...869.&source=54

At the risk of making a right fool of myself - are they real? They`re not, right?

What`s all that about "sticking in at school"?? Is that genuine, or a patronising "go f*** yourself"?

Help...

**macd123** · 20-10-2014 12:20 AM

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At the risk of making a right fool of myself - are they real? They`re not, right?

What`s all that about "sticking in at school"?? Is that genuine, or a patronising "go f*** yourself"?

Help...

They look real to me. I actually think STF and bradley agree on much more than they realize.

**~~Phil D. Rolls~~** · 20-10-2014 06:21 AM

That headed notepaper looks like its been made with a John Bull set. It has an address but no company or individual name - Farmer must go if he thinks that's acceptable.

**Kaiser1962** · 20-10-2014 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by silverhibee

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What on.

Under the stewardship of who.

Pick any one from "speculate to accumulate" or "investment"

Like nearly all football clubs it didn't really go well.

**Kaiser1962** · 20-10-2014 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by HFCDaveA

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Because these claims have the potential to cause negativity and uncertainty. IMO that is exactly what they are designed for, the longer they go on and are added to the more chance of people believing them. The club could shut this down quickly IMO and shut these people up giving them zero credibility in the future. The club is struggling in this league, they are trying to rebuild everything so they don't need these sorts of claims, I would imagine it would be easy for the club to prove where the monies from the stones went for example.

An example would be that there's another post just above yours (on my screen at least) asking how much STF paid for Hibs initially despite this having been done to death over many years are the club expected to respond to things like this every time it is raised?

If somebody has an accusation to make then we are all listening but they (the accusers) need to back it up. As I see it responsibility lies with them to prove their claims by providing supporting evidence.

The AGM should be coming up shortly and I am pretty sure a lot of these questions will be asked, which is probably the right time and place if done in a civil manner.

***Jack*** · 20-10-2014 11:46 AM

Accountancy Question.

Re the demands for an inventory.

Would the auditor not make up an inventory when STF took over, maybe recheck/update this from time to time, but any significant additions or deletions from this list would be noted in the annual accounts?

If thats correct then these guys should be sent packing with a wee note saying that the information is already in the public domain.

Its not up to Hibs to waste time and money providing this information again.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 20-10-2014 11:51 AM

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Accountancy Question.

Re the demands for an inventory.

Would the auditor not make up an inventory when STF took over, maybe recheck/update this from time to time, but any significant additions or deletions from this list would be noted in the annual accounts?

If thats correct then these guys should be sent packing with a wee note saying that the information is already in the public domain.

Its not up to Hibs to waste time and money providing this information again.

Referred to this a few times on this thread, and in other fora.

The Balance Sheet in the Financial Statements IS the "inventory" of assets and liabilities at each Balance Sheet date. Those statements are prepared by the club, and independently audited. The major assets (which, I presume, is what the snipers are on about), ie ER and EM, are explicitly mentioned, particularly when they are revalued.

I don't think the personalised number-plates are listed separately, though.

***Jack*** · 20-10-2014 12:12 PM

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Referred to this a few times on this thread, and in other fora.

The Balance Sheet in the Financial Statements IS the "inventory" of assets and liabilities at each Balance Sheet date. Those statements are prepared by the club, and independently audited. The major assets (which, I presume, is what the snipers are on about), ie ER and EM, are explicitly mentioned, particularly when they are revalued.

I don't think the personalised number-plates are listed separately, though.

Thank you.

***silverhibee*** · 20-10-2014 12:15 PM

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At the risk of making a right fool of myself - are they real? They`re not, right?

What`s all that about "sticking in at school"?? Is that genuine, or a patronising "go f*** yourself"?

Help...

Would be funny if the kids responded that "school is a nightmare as we get a hard time and picked on for being Hibs supporters, it's no fun"

"and we never went anywhere for our holidays as our parents decided to spend all our holiday savings on over the top prices to watch Hibs this season, apart from that things are great and we love being dragged along to watch Hibs."

"Please think of the kids Mr Farmer".

***silverhibee*** · 20-10-2014 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Kaiser1962

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Pick any one from "speculate to accumulate" or "investment"

Like nearly all football clubs it didn't really go well.

***grunt*** · 20-10-2014 05:20 PM

New Facebook post from the Hands on Hibs team

https://www.facebook.com/46379398042...type=1&theater

***DaveF*** · 20-10-2014 05:26 PM

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New Facebook post from the Hands on Hubs team

https://www.facebook.com/46379398042...type=1&theater

I see they have the old 80's Hibs top in their photo. How very 'retro'.

A new page - Any news out tomorrow then...........

**NadeAteMyLunch!** · 20-10-2014 05:53 PM

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Watched him at HT J and he was pinging them in from all over the pitch hitting the back of the net each time, his only chance he got when he came on was a free kick and he hit the wall with it

folk will disagree with me on this but he still has it, he just needs someone to take a chance on him and hopefully after a few games to get back in the sharpness of things he could do a job for someone, but he enjoyed the wee 20 minutes he got,smile on his face again.

Good to hear!

**HFC 0-7** · 20-10-2014 06:07 PM

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An example would be that there's another post just above yours (on my screen at least) asking how much STF paid for Hibs initially despite this having been done to death over many years are the club expected to respond to things like this every time it is raised?

If somebody has an accusation to make then we are all listening but they (the accusers) need to back it up. As I see it responsibility lies with them to prove their claims by providing supporting evidence.

The AGM should be coming up shortly and I am pretty sure a lot of these questions will be asked, which is probably the right time and place if done in a civil manner.

That should be the case but sadly it isnt. LD found the need to come on here and clear a few things up, nothing wrong with the club doing it. HOH / HIBILEAKS wont go away with their accusations unless they are made to show their evidence or the club prove otherwise. IMO, the club can do this the quickest which means the fans know whats happened and any groups dreaming up accusations will think twice. The club need as little negativity as possible right now, shut these allegations down quickly is the best bet IMO.

**SunshineOnLeith** · 20-10-2014 06:17 PM

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New Facebook post from the Hands on Hibs team

https://www.facebook.com/46379398042...type=1&theater

Still no apology for spreading malicious lies.

**The Green Goblin** · 20-10-2014 09:33 PM

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Would be funny if the kids responded that "school is a nightmare as we get a hard time and picked on for being Hibs supporters, it's no fun"

"and we never went anywhere for our holidays as our parents decided to spend all our holiday savings on over the top prices to watch Hibs this season, apart from that things are great and we love being dragged along to watch Hibs."

"Please think of the kids Mr Farmer".

Too much.

***Sergio sledge*** · 20-10-2014 10:03 PM

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New Facebook post from the Hands on Hibs team

https://www.facebook.com/46379398042...type=1&theater

"HOH are making the positive campaign for change"
Yet one of the main parts of their campaign is #hibileaks where they spread malicious and pretty serious allegations and rumours about how STF and RP have been swindling the club out of money for years and are yet to produce any evidence for any of their allegations.
If they truly were "making the positive campaign for change" they'd have steered clear of the unproven negative allegations and actually made the positive case for change.
They've no credibility until they produce the evidence.

***silverhibee*** · 20-10-2014 11:42 PM

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Too much.

**1two** · 26-10-2014 08:22 PM

2 relegations
5 chairmen
13 managers
Over 40 directors
£8 million in debt
No future strategy

Time for action

Anyone else get one of these cards?

Aside from today's games, which was ruined by the goal of the season, I feel myself wanting to get behind a supporters movement because things need changed at our club.

But sorry guys, the answer isn't just to get rid of the current incumbents. That would be having 'no future strategy'.

What is the future strategy? Who should be driving it?

***tamig*** · 26-10-2014 08:33 PM

I've never heard of a backward strategy so wonder why they feel the need to add the word future. Strange.

***silverhibee*** · 26-10-2014 08:51 PM

Time For Action

Got a few words with **** today but he was in a heated conversation about the stickers/flyers and posters all over Leith today with some dude, think the guy was trying to remove them and he was being told to leave them alone, heard the same thing happened outside the Hibs club this morning.

This group aren't going away and i do believe they are getting under the skins of some at Hibs, how it will pan out is anyone's guess, "Time For Action" i wonder how hibs take that statement.

***SteveHFC*** · 26-10-2014 08:52 PM

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2 relegations
5 chairmen
13 managers
Over 40 directors
£8 million in debt
No future strategy

Time for action

Anyone else get one of these cards?

Aside from today's games, which was ruined by the goal of the season, I feel myself wanting to get behind a supporters movement because things need changed at our club.

But sorry guys, the answer isn't just to get rid of the current incumbents. That would be having 'no future strategy'.

What is the future strategy? Who should be driving it?

I got a card.

***marinello59*** · 26-10-2014 09:03 PM

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I got a card.

Did it have any proof on it regarding their previous claims?

**Mr White** · 26-10-2014 09:13 PM

I walked past one of the guys involved in this before the game today at the junction of hawkhill avenue and the entrance to the east stand and overheard him saying "and he'll move us out to Straiton". Now I've read a few references to some claims about this on here lately and assumed it's nonsense but if guys are openly handing out fliers, disrupting meetings and posting inflammatory information online to this effect, presumably it will reach a point where hibs respond in some way? I'm assuming this is their aim, to draw the club out into dialogue in a public forum, or is there some substance to the claims? Like I say I'm doubtful but it seems like people are going to considerable length to provoke a response here.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 26-10-2014 09:17 PM

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I walked past one of the guys involved in this before the game today at the junction of hawkhill avenue and the entrance to the east stand and overheard him saying "and he'll move us out to Straiton". Now I've read a few references to some claims about this on here lately and assumed it's nonsense but if guys are openly handing out fliers, disrupting meetings and posting inflammatory information online to this effect, presumably it will reach a point where hibs respond in some way? I'm assuming this is their aim, to draw the club out into dialogue in a public forum, or is there some substance to the claims? Like I say I'm doubtful but it seems like people are going to considerable length to provoke a response here.

Has that land not been built on now?

**Mr White** · 26-10-2014 09:21 PM

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Has that land not been built on now?

The land that was earmarked 20 years ago has been as far as I know. I'm assuming these guys are at it but I'd be interested to know exactly what "it" is. Have they been fed duff info or is it a deliberate strategy to ruffle a few feathers?

***blackpoolhibs*** · 26-10-2014 09:24 PM

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The land that was earmarked 20 years ago has been as far as I know. I'm assuming these guys are at it but I'd be interested to know exactly what "it" is. Have they been fed duff info or is it a deliberate strategy to ruffle a few feathers?

They don't actually say anything, i cant take anything they say seriously.