#hibileaks/Hands On Hibs/BuyHibs (Merged)

[silverhibee]

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She said on the radio on Saturday she was hoping to get the results out by early this week at the latest.

So that's today.

She did say over the weekend or Monday at the latest.

[Bad Martini]

Why would an (old) man with more than £170m to his name need to make a "quick buck" or "few quid" from a Scottish fitba team, risking the ruin of his lifelong work as a philanthropist, the loss of his reputation and potentially catastrophic effects on his chances of entering the Kingdom when he shuffles of this mortal coil, an avid church goer and man of good character, albeit not to everyone's liking when it comes to handing over more of his own loot to the football club?

I can see it right enough.

73 years old, unlikely to begin to start to think about considering spending even a 10th of what he has amassed already yet, out to make a few quid of the Hibs

**** knows how I missed all this before

Hud on, I know how I missed all this before

[Danderhall Hibs]

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She did say over the weekend or Monday at the latest.

Cheers. I started doubting myself so gave her the benefit if the doubt and added a day.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

That letter isn't in my name. Pathetic.

[silverhibee]

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Cheers. I started doubting myself so gave her the benefit if the doubt and added a day.

Might have to add another one by the looks of things.

[matty_f]

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Might have to add another one by the looks of things.

I was expecting to read it yesterday. Still no sign of it today.

About the only thing Hibs are getting right at the minute is the unrelenting ability to shoot themselves in the foot. I can't think of anything we've done recently that has been remotely impressive. We've managed to turn sorting out the back room staff into a negative "too many coaches/what do sports scientists even do?" Etc, we've apparently turned season ticket seats into stairs without telling the owners, we've announced sponsorship for the happy Hibby draw but made it difficult to find a vendor to actually buy a ticket, there's the worst home strip I can remember, destroying the feel good factor of pumping the Rangers by screwing up against Raith, telling the fans we'll have a look at supporter representation on the board after an election process then approaching someone to do it without any process at all, telling us we'll have info out by Monday then not having it at Tuesday tea time, there's supposed to be a presence on here which hasn't materialised.

Shambles is being kind, and that's without considering results and league placings.

[The Green Goblin]

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I was expecting to read it yesterday. Still no sign of it today.

About the only thing Hibs are getting right at the minute is the unrelenting ability to shoot themselves in the foot. I can't think of anything we've done recently that has been remotely impressive. We've managed to turn sorting out the back room staff into a negative "too many coaches/what do sports scientists even do?" Etc, we've apparently turned season ticket seats into stairs without telling the owners, we've announced sponsorship for the happy Hibby draw but made it difficult to find a vendor to actually buy a ticket, there's the worst home strip I can remember, destroying the feel good factor of pumping the Rangers by screwing up against Raith, telling the fans we'll have a look at supporter representation on the board after an election process then approaching someone to do it without any process at all, telling us we'll have info out by Monday then not having it at Tuesday tea time, there's supposed to be a presence on here which hasn't materialised.

Shambles is being kind, and that's without considering results and league placings.

Strong words from you Matty. I think it`s fair to say that you are usually someone who tries to look on the positive side of things where Hibs are concerned, so even though it`s clear there are big problems at the club, it`s pretty worrying to hear that from you.

[bingo70]

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I was expecting to read it yesterday. Still no sign of it today.

About the only thing Hibs are getting right at the minute is the unrelenting ability to shoot themselves in the foot. I can't think of anything we've done recently that has been remotely impressive. We've managed to turn sorting out the back room staff into a negative "too many coaches/what do sports scientists even do?" Etc, we've apparently turned season ticket seats into stairs without telling the owners, we've announced sponsorship for the happy Hibby draw but made it difficult to find a vendor to actually buy a ticket, there's the worst home strip I can remember, destroying the feel good factor of pumping the Rangers by screwing up against Raith, telling the fans we'll have a look at supporter representation on the board after an election process then approaching someone to do it without any process at all, telling us we'll have info out by Monday then not having it at Tuesday tea time, there's supposed to be a presence on here which hasn't materialised.

Shambles is being kind, and that's without considering results and league placings.

I still cannae believe Danny handling got a 4 year deal.

[matty_f]

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Strong words from you Matty. I think it`s fair to say that you are usually someone who tries to look on the positive side of things where Hibs are concerned, so even though it`s clear there are big problems at the club, it`s pretty worrying to hear that from you.

I've been fairly appalled at most things Hibernian for a while. I generally do look for the positives but it's increasingly difficult to see past the significant failings that are almost universal across the club.

I'm sure there's lots of good things happening but for whatever reason we are still moving backwards and all we are getting is empty words and rhetoric from the club.

It's on basic things as well, I manage a small team at my work and I'd be mortified if we were getting as much as wrong as Hibs are. I don't see any excuse or reason for it.

The season ticket draws are an example, I know a winner of the centre circle prize. He was supposed to have a meal with (IIRC) Terry Butcher and Pat Stanton at Easter Road (I believe it was meant to be on the pitch). Now clearly with Butcher tending to his shrubs that prize wasn't going to happen so instead he was asked along to Stanton's birthday celebration before the Cowdenbeath game. Instead of having the opportunity to chat with the manager and a club legend, he ended up at a table with the other winners with no interaction with any players/staff.
A very good prize turned into a disappointment, which is a shame.

The club to this day have still to respond to our email after relegation.

We still wait on Leeann Dempster's first post despite her clear assurance that she'd get online and get engaged with the support. That wasn't a sound bite taken out of context, I was sat three chairs from her when she said it.

I reckon I could do an essay on where and how we're going wrong, but I also reckon it'd be an absolutely pointless exercise.

[matty_f]

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I still cannae believe Danny handling got a 4 year deal.

He's hardly kicked a ball since! If you can't get a game in this Hibs side you've no chance!

[ancient hibee]

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I was expecting to read it yesterday. Still no sign of it today.

About the only thing Hibs are getting right at the minute is the unrelenting ability to shoot themselves in the foot. I can't think of anything we've done recently that has been remotely impressive. We've managed to turn sorting out the back room staff into a negative "too many coaches/what do sports scientists even do?" Etc, we've apparently turned season ticket seats into stairs without telling the owners, we've announced sponsorship for the happy Hibby draw but made it difficult to find a vendor to actually buy a ticket, there's the worst home strip I can remember, destroying the feel good factor of pumping the Rangers by screwing up against Raith, telling the fans we'll have a look at supporter representation on the board after an election process then approaching someone to do it without any process at all, telling us we'll have info out by Monday then not having it at Tuesday tea time, there's supposed to be a presence on here which hasn't materialised.

Shambles is being kind, and that's without considering results and league placings.

There aren't too many coaches-who doesn't know what a sports scientist does?-there's more empty seats than you can shake a stick at so plenty room-I can't keep happy Hibby vendors away-the strip is nothing like as bad as the purple with white sleeves(worn once I think)-we didn't screw up against Raith -we just weren't good enough(isn't that obvious by now?)which person has been approached to be a fans rep on the board?there's been no agreement on how an election would be organised-wasn't it "hope to have it out by early next week"?a presence on here-who cares.

Moaner

[silverhibee]

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There aren't too many coaches-who doesn't know what a sports scientist does?-there's more empty seats than you can shake a stick at so plenty room-I can't keep happy Hibby vendors away-the strip is nothing like as bad as the purple with white sleeves(worn once I think)-we didn't screw up against Raith -we just weren't good enough(isn't that obvious by now?)which person has been approached to be a fans rep on the board?there's been no agreement on how an election would be organised-wasn't it "hope to have it out by early next week"?a presence on here-who cares.

Moaner

Not what she said.

"hope to have it out over the weekend if not then Monday at the latest" were her words.

She also said she would use fan forums to engage with the fans.

I will let Matty reply to the other points in your post.

[silverhibee]

Is there no where from the BBC Sportsound where we can listen to the interview from Leeann at the weekend, is it not recorded or something like that.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Is there no where from the BBC Sportsound where we can listen to the interview from Leeann at the weekend, is it not recorded or something like that.

Might be on iplayer radio? Must've been 215-230 on Saturday.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Great posts from Matthew. When you see it like that it doesn't read well at all.

[WHUHibs]

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I've been fairly appalled at most things Hibernian for a while. I generally do look for the positives but it's increasingly difficult to see past the significant failings that are almost universal across the club.

I'm sure there's lots of good things happening but for whatever reason we are still moving backwards and all we are getting is empty words and rhetoric from the club.

It's on basic things as well, I manage a small team at my work and I'd be mortified if we were getting as much as wrong as Hibs are. I don't see any excuse or reason for it.

The season ticket draws are an example, I know a winner of the centre circle prize. He was supposed to have a meal with (IIRC) Terry Butcher and Pat Stanton at Easter Road (I believe it was meant to be on the pitch). Now clearly with Butcher tending to his shrubs that prize wasn't going to happen so instead he was asked along to Stanton's birthday celebration before the Cowdenbeath game. Instead of having the opportunity to chat with the manager and a club legend, he ended up at a table with the other winners with no interaction with any players/staff.
A very good prize turned into a disappointment, which is a shame.

The club to this day have still to respond to our email after relegation.

We still wait on Leeann Dempster's first post despite her clear assurance that she'd get online and get engaged with the support. That wasn't a sound bite taken out of context, I was sat three chairs from her when she said it.

I reckon I could do an essay on where and how we're going wrong, but I also reckon it'd be an absolutely pointless exercise.

Matty, perhaps this won't mean a lot to many people but it did me and probably supports your point in how the club is developing.

LD approached me to help develop a sales and marketing strategy in the wake of Russell going and said it would be a good time for restructure and new ideas. Here is my number she said and can we sort out a date to get this going as income streams are the life blood of the club. 8 calls , emails and texts later not one reply.

To say I'm dissapointed is an understatement at the amount of time I had put into the plan with preparation etc but and surprised yes I am! Such a positive start about I'm going to do this and that with a trumpet of good natured honesty I from a personal perspective don't have faith in declaring timescales and plans.

I understand the club want to go in a new direction but do we want to follow her that is the question.

The club is in a real mess and I don't feel it is improving.

[leither17]

There must be so many things going on behind the scenes here that we are hearing nothing about that LD cant follow up on all the promises she made from july onwards ,that it makes you feel her hands are being tied from Petrie and even Farmer above that. There is something rotten at the core of our club IMO and Petrie and Farmer are scared we find out .

[Brightside]

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I still cannae believe Danny handling got a 4 year deal.

He was outstanding last night.

[HFC 0-7]

Is there a change in feeling towards LD? People have been singing her praises since she arrived but some of what's being said in regards to the failings seems to be falling at her feet. She seemed to want better communication between club and fans but this doesn't seem to have changed, in fact it seems worse now that promises have been made that have been broken. Personally I wasn't fussed either way when she came in and I wasn't getting carried away with anything she said as we have heard it all before, but I still hope that she can turn this mess around. I do wonder if this isa much bigger job than she expected.

[The Gorf]

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Matty, perhaps this won't mean a lot to many people but it did me and probably supports your point in how the club is developing.

LD approached me to help develop a sales and marketing strategy in the wake of Russell going and said it would be a good time for restructure and new ideas. Here is my number she said and can we sort out a date to get this going as income streams are the life blood of the club. 8 calls , emails and texts later not one reply.

To say I'm dissapointed is an understatement at the amount of time I had put into the plan with preparation etc but and surprised yes I am! Such a positive start about I'm going to do this and that with a trumpet of good natured honesty I from a personal perspective don't have faith in declaring timescales and plans.

I understand the club want to go in a new direction but do we want to follow her that is the question.

The club is in a real mess and I don't feel it is improving.

i reckon LD's appointment was a ruse by RP just to appease the fans a little while longer until the Petrie Out campaign fizzled out. And guess what? It worked imho.

[Peevemor]

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i reckon LD's appointment was a ruse by RP just to appease the fans a little while longer until the Petrie Out campaign fizzled out. And guess what? It worked imho.

That shows amazing foresight on his part, given she was appointed 2 months before the Petrie out thing really kicked off.

[IWasThere2016]

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I reckon I could do an essay on where and how we're going wrong, but I also reckon it'd be an absolutely pointless exercise.

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Great posts from Matthew. When you see it like that it doesn't read well at all.

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The club is in a real mess and I don't feel it is improving.

Grossly mismanaged for years under RP - and STF doesn't give a hoot.. And yet we still have some supporting them!

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i reckon LD's appointment was a ruse by RP just to appease the fans a little while longer until the Petrie Out campaign fizzled out. And guess what? It worked imho.

Your times are out but the usual spin/teflon manoeuvres from the tached one.

The only tactic for change is to stay away from ER IMHO..

[bingo70]

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He was outstanding last night.

Irrelevant until he starts doing it for the first team.

Plenty good young players can't make the step up.

[I'm_cabbaged]

I vowed that I wouldn't go back until RP was ousted, I can't believe he's sitting there letting dempster call the shots. The sad thing is I'm beginning to get used to not going to ER. I'm sure there a hundreds if not into the thousands like me.
Something has to be done, and done quick!!

[greenpaper55]

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I vowed that I wouldn't go back until RP was ousted, I can't believe he's sitting there letting dempster call the shots. The sad thing is I'm beginning to get used to not going to ER. I'm sure there a hundreds if not into the thousands like me.
Something has to be done, and done quick!!

I know how you feel, on Saturdays i can hardly be bothered to listen for the result and if we get beaten-again then it hardly seems to matter anymore. The only way to get these clowns out of ER is to starve them of the cash that keeps their empire afloat, i should have said our cash of course. The place seems an utter shambles with an owner that does not care and a chairman who is clueless, don't give them a penny more.

[silverhibee]

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Might be on iplayer radio? Must've been 215-230 on Saturday.

Had a look and can't find anything.

[Hiber-nation]

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Had a look and can't find anything.

I heard it at the time and I agree with you - she said hopefully Sunday but if not, then early in the week at the latest.

Maybe LD has taken on far too much and can't/won't delegate properly.

[Greenblood70]

Its my honest opinion that overall things have actually deteriorated further since relegation at Board Level. For what reason I'm unsure as I have no inside knowledge of the goings on (if indeed anything goes on) at the club. The constant and unceasing ability to continually ****** up is almost laughable in it's utter incompetence.

Granted it would take time for LD to implement her ideas but there are several areas already highlighted in this thread that it would have been pretty easy to remedy and stop becoming a problem/issue in the first place. I dont think she'll hang around for long, if only due to the restrictive nature of our overly corporate model and the difficulty in implementing any ideas quickly and effectively. I also think the constant firefighting of the latest catastrophe will eventually take it's toll.

We're stuck in a kind of limbo just now with the gap between the custodians and the supporters ever widening.

[silverhibee]

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Great posts from Matthew. When you see it like that it doesn't read well at all.

Not forgetting things like, Ladies day/night being cancelled, golf day cancelled, and the hassle over seas supporters are having trying to get games abroad, it's a f***ing joke and the club are still taking us for mugs, nothing has changed, and when you have posters like Matthew (Sunday name i take it) who normally give the club the benefit of the doubt over things, are having a good go at how things are been run at the club it isn't good reading.

And still nothing Leeann.

[WHUHibs]

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Its my honest opinion that overall things have actually deteriorated further since relegation at Board Level. For what reason I'm unsure as I have no inside knowledge of the goings on (if indeed anything goes on) at the club. The constant and unceasing ability to continually ****** up is almost laughable in it's utter incompetence.

Granted it would take time for LD to implement her ideas but there are several areas already highlighted in this thread that it would have been pretty easy to remedy and stop becoming a problem/issue in the first place. I dont think she'll hang around for long, if only due to the restrictive nature of our overly corporate model and the difficulty in implementing any ideas quickly and effectively. I also think the constant firefighting of the latest catastrophe will eventually take it's toll.

We're stuck in a kind of limbo just now with the gap between the custodians and the supporters ever widening.

We have all said ridiculous things on here many said in the heat of the moment or we were told something by someone who knew less than they gave the impression of. Me for one have learned that lesson and I was told many things and thank God I didnt post them or I might have had less that a chance of coming across as sincere.

I can tell you first hand that my dealing with LD are more than dissapointing and I am sure there is a lot of internal strife at the club.

All we are interested in getting a product on the park that we can get behind but I am sure that our debt position and liquidity and revenue streams are all a concern. We have enough to get by but we have relied on sales of players in the past which have been helpful and we are a selling club. That's not the issue but since Fletcher we have not really had a major asset to sell and the academy seems bereft of producing real talent. I'm sure that can be redressed but that would take time and that's time we don't have so what do we do?

I want Petrie out but shouting about it won't work and the only way we can have real change is bringing everyone together to create a unified and dignified fan base. Just because PK spoke for a number of fans he wont cover us all but neither will any other group "not in my name" people shout!

Well let's all wake up and accept that positive change will only happen if we all work together and make changes together.

STF - thank you but now we need a change , investment can be in a number of ways and if my personal dealing with LD are the basis of my judgement then I have no confidence in her.

I'm not even sure the announcement that should have been made will happen this week as I am sure there are lots of holes in it that haven't been plugged. Could it be that it was rushed due to the supporters survey?

Well thought out plans take time and we are really at last chance saloon, don't get it right now then our history will be all we have as the future looks bleak and so is the wilderness,,just ask Leeds fans!