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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

    746 48.89%
  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

    560 36.70%
  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

    49 3.21%
  • Don't care about them

    171 11.21%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Is that the actual true value your talking about or the manufactured "true value" brought into being by the council selling off the Tynie school land at a ludicrously low price.
    You have to be glad your tax payers money has been sacrificed to help North British Distillery (joint venture between Diageo plc and the Edrington Group) get a sweet deal for the property when they must be struggling in these hard economic times. Maybe they will pay us back by moving that tank back a bit and increase the value of Tynecastle so that our community team can sell the ground at a vast profit and move to a new stadium the council will build with more of your tax payer money.


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    Quote Originally Posted by the_ginger_hibee View Post
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    I never said the speculation was crazy or wild..I called the latest post wild. I just called it false hope, which unfortunately it was in the end.
    Sorry, I picked you up wrong. I agree with what you're saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLake View Post
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    You have to be glad your tax payers money has been sacrificed to help North British Distillery (joint venture between Diageo plc and the Edrington Group) get a sweet deal for the property when they must be struggling in these hard economic times. Maybe they will pay us back by moving that tank back a bit and increase the value of Tynecastle so that our community team can sell the ground at a vast profit and move to a new stadium the council will build with more of your tax payer money.

    Yes, I suppose so. Better prepare ourselves for that.

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    It will be interesting to see what value the first set of accounts post admin places on Hearts asset's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser1962 View Post
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    It will be interesting to see what value the first set of accounts post admin places on Hearts asset's.
    Indeed. The huns assets worth 4.5 million when Charlie (or was it Craigie... ) bought them, suddenly became worth around 80 million in the space of a few weeks. I wont be at all surprised to see the PBS suddenly valued at considerably more than the 2.5 million that BDO and FoH said it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
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    Indeed. The huns assets worth 4.5 million when Charlie (or was it Craigie... ) bought them, suddenly became worth around 80 million in the space of a few weeks. I wont be at all surprised to see the PBS suddenly valued at considerably more than the 2.5 million that BDO and FoH said it is.
    It will be a gigantic figure against which to seek lending. They can always admin themselves out of paying it back in a few seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLake View Post
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    It will be a gigantic figure against which to seek lending. They can always admin themselves out of paying it back in a few seasons.
    No way. They're going to be debt-free, remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    No way. They're going to be debt-free, remember.
    Shortly after they find Lord Lucan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser1962 View Post
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    It will be interesting to see what value the first set of accounts post admin places on Hearts asset's.
    Wow, just wow, they are going to publish accounts? Does a big team have to publish properly audited and certified / qualified accounts?

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    I remember the sevconian fans pulled a wee fund together to pay back all those "little guys" that lost out as Sevco itself wasn't legally allowed to...... Anyone know if the Yams have at least done that among all their crowing on escaping shafting the creditors or are they truly the lowest of the low?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    What rumours are these?
    The rumours we have started on this thred

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    I remember the sevconian fans pulled a wee fund together to pay back all those "little guys" that lost out as Sevco itself wasn't legally allowed to...... Anyone know if the Yams have at least done that among all their crowing on escaping shafting the creditors or are they truly the lowest of the low?
    Somebody paid the Lady Haig Fund the poppy money, but that's it, sod the rest of them. Yams, even less shame than Scotlands shame. The rangers fans, forever in the yam fans shadow when it comes to putting two fingers up to your creditors and enjoying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_ginger_hibee View Post
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    It never happened though. Might have been close (do we really know how close given Jackson's posturing/manipulating?) and it was enjoyable, but this forums predictions/inside knowledge/sources were wrong in the end.

    If people want to cling onto stevejordons or anyone else's 'Its no over' then fair enough...enjoy.

    People should embrace Hearts and their 'new era' - a bunch of soulless cardigans wandering about Gorgie debating about which member gets the best parking space. Sheikh Mansour comes to Edinburgh it is not...
    Agree with this.

    I put information from a partner in the law firm I work for that the shares are not frozen and it was dismissed. Appears he was correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLake View Post
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    It will be a gigantic figure against which to seek lending. They can always admin themselves out of paying it back in a few seasons.
    Are they not back to the position of owing the money to themselves?😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
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    Are they not back to the position of owing the money to themselves?
    I'm sure desantos could tell us, oh he's disappeared !!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    Somebody paid the Lady Haig Fund the poppy money, but that's it, sod the rest of them. Yams, even less shame than Scotlands shame. The rangers fans, forever in the yam fans shadow when it comes to putting two fingers up to your creditors and enjoying it.
    That's what I thought too.

    I had a wee rant on Facebook after the acceptance of the CVA and this is some of the responses I had from a Hearts fan I know:

    "Lots of businesses get into financial trouble. And you can rest assured all our taxes are bang up to date" and "actually not only did they apologise some of the fans cleared the debt to the charities with their own money."

    I'm in an unusual position in that my Mum and I are Hibbys and season ticket holders, my Dad supports them and has a season ticket at the PBS. So for his benefit I initially didn't want them to die, but the longer it went on, the lack of even a glimmer of remorse, the constant 5-1 and big team/wee team pish, my view changed and by the end I hoped they would be liquidated and be forced to start in the bottom division. The more I think about what has happened the angrier I get - "Lots of businesses get into financial trouble" was the final straw.

    I'd like to think that one day they will get what they deserve but if I'm honest I have little hope of that ever happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
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    Are they not back to the position of owing the money to themselves?
    They are at present, but soon they will be back to thinking some prudent savers somewhere ought to be impoverished to provide them with better players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    Somebody paid the Lady Haig Fund the poppy money, but that's it, sod the rest of them. Yams, even less shame than Scotlands shame. The rangers fans, forever in the yam fans shadow when it comes to putting two fingers up to your creditors and enjoying it.
    If you go into a shop and steal a loaf of bread and I go in later and pay for it, it doesn't make you any less of a thief.

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    Without meaning to bore anyone or go over old ground..
    I take it the title of the thread was changed because the freezer test is a no goer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haagsehibby View Post
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    If you go into a shop and steal a loaf of bread and I go in later and pay for it, it doesn't make you any less of a thief.
    But at least you would have shown some remorse and accepted what you did in first place was wrongs .there is none of that from this mob that I can see so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EK_Hibs View Post
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    Without meaning to bore anyone or go over old ground..
    I take it the title of the thread was changed because the freezer test is a no goer?
    Global warming and climate change not to mention lying ,bullying and just a little Political pressure seem to have brought about a rapid thaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronniekirk View Post
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    But at least you would have shown some remorse and accepted what you did in first place was wrongs .there is none of that from this mob that I can see so far.
    Not one. I've even been called a liar and a bitter hobo for pointing out that a bit of humility is in order. Apparently, the creditors report I sent in respect of the charities and employee claims etc is a fake. Last time I checked, it was lodged with companies house.

    They have absolutely no shame whatsoever. They absolutely disgust me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madsen5 View Post
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    I'm sure desantos could tell us, oh he's disappeared !!!!!!!!!!!!
    Has he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filled Rolls View Post
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    Has he?
    No , he has amalgamated two names and added the number 1 to the end , but haven't seen anything from Sergey !!!!!

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    I just spoke to one of my contacts. It didn't reply and just kind of flopped on the end of my finger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLake View Post
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    I just spoke to one of my contacts. It didn't reply and just kind of flopped on the end of my finger.
    Was your contact lens. By any chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronniekirk View Post
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    No , he has amalgamated two names and added the number 1 to the end , but haven't seen anything from Sergey !!!!!
    I'm still around - but I'm seemingly a broken man who's life has just ended

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronniekirk View Post
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    No , he has amalgamated two names and added the number 1 to the end , but haven't seen anything from Sergey !!!!!
    No - the one with a 1 at the end's someone else. Desantos/Sanger have left by mutual consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergey View Post
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    I'm still around - but I'm seemingly a broken man who's life has just ended
    Welcome back !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergey View Post
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    I'm still around - but I'm seemingly a broken man who's life has just ended
    I think it is only the end of the beginning. The best pish ripping is yet to come.

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