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[Waxy]

All these yams are spouting rubbish at us like they've had some kind of victory against us. No yams, you haven't. In reality your decent into admin has been nothing at all to do with Hibs.It was your own doing. Enjoy the championship.

[marinello59]

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All these yams are spouting rubbish at us like they've had some kind of victory against us. No yams, you haven't. In reality your decent into admin has been nothing at all to do with Hibs.It was your own doing. Enjoy the championship.

Exactly. The fault is all their own. Thats who pointing the finger at and rejoicing in the fact that they will be playing lower league football for the next few years.

[GlenrothesHibee]

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Hearts are down = Pleasing
Hearts are skint = Pleasing
Hearts will never be the same again = Pleasing
Hearts will struggle from now on = pleasing
Hearts name will always be tarnished = Pleasing
Hearts fans thinking everything is over = double pleasing.
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So overall it looks pretty ***** being a jambo. Ok they are still here but they really will struggle from here on and that my friends gives me great pleasure.

Bye, bye hearts, maybe see you in cup games you little irrelevant blooded turd of a club!!

Best post on this entire thread

[Waxy]

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Best post on this entire thread

Na. The best post on the thread was the post someone put the link up the day they went into admin. What a day that was.

[Ronniekirk]

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sangerdesantos1 used to be pedroorange, its all a bit weird to be honest. Though strangely addictive!

Certainly had me hooked for a while Am hoping today brings more clarity about the new details that have been agreed in the updated memorandum of Understanding that hasn't yet been rubber stamped but now has two green lights and the backing of all those Politicians . havent looked at papers yet as they were so up themselves with positivity yesterday there is no point in looking for any objectivity there .

[Hibrandenburg]

It's been a blast and maybe the fat lady hasn't started her Aria but she's still waiting in the wing practising her scales. Yams, this ain't over YET! There's more pain to come.

[Craig_in_Prague]

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It's been a blast and maybe the fat lady hasn't started her Aria but she's still waiting in the wing practising her scales. Yams, this ain't over YET! There's more pain to come.

such as?

i'd say shedding the debt they have (best part of 70M), 1 season out the top league (we may follow suit & not get back to top league ourselves for 2 years) and come back in better financial state than other clubs, is a pretty good outcome.

all this pain & hearts never being good again stuff, sounds good, but I just dont buy it though.

[Hank Schrader]

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such as?

i'd say shedding the debt they have (best part of 70M), 1 season out the top league (we may follow suit & not get back to top league ourselves for 2 years) and come back in better financial state than other clubs, is a pretty good outcome.

all this pain & hearts never being good again stuff, sounds good, but I just dont buy it though.

How do you know they will only spend one season out of the top league?

Then we might get relegated and not get back into the top league for two seasons?

You need to cheer up.

[Waxy]

At least a season (maybe several) in the lower leagues and a level playing field from now on. I would have taken that this time last year. Me personally am miffed that their financial doping probably cost us a scottish cup. They wouldn't have got there in 2006 paying normal rates.
This rivalry is as poisonous as i've ever known it now.

[marinello59]

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such as?

i'd say shedding the debt they have (best part of 70M), 1 season out the top league (we may follow suit & not get back to top league ourselves for 2 years) and come back in better financial state than other clubs, is a pretty good outcome.

all this pain & hearts never being good again stuff, sounds good, but I just dont buy it though.

Try putting your hatred of hearts to one side and letting your love of Hibernian rule your head for a day or two. You will feel much better.

[Jim44]

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It's been a blast and maybe the fat lady hasn't started her Aria but she's still waiting in the wing practising her scales. Yams, this ain't over YET! There's more pain to come.

I'm afraid, you're the only one who's going to feel more pain if you keep torturing yourself with the vain hope that they could yet come unstuck. A soothing tonic of a revived Hibs team in the next five games and the flatness ('tho they won't admit it) and anti-climax that hits them when the reality of playing with the other minnows sinks in.

[Craig_in_Prague]

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Try putting your hatred of hearts to one side and letting your love of Hibernian rule your head for a day or two. You will feel much better.

I will try mate :-)

A Hibs win and SPL safety ASAP, would be nice.

Re. others above; I think they will get back up 1st time, they'll have good crowds & be still in a position to afford better players than others (bar their big cousins).... and let's not pretend that's a strong league, they'll come back up via the play offs.

[green day]

For what its worth -

Friend / Colleague of mine is a tynecastle season ticket holder, but dont hold that against him, actually a decent guy. Loves to beat us of course, but not stupid enough to think that their financial rollercoaster was consequence free.

Oddly enough, he knows I Am an MP personally too - but had no more inside info than anything on this board. Indeed, Murray told him the same as some of the guys on here, i.e. it was pretty touch and go for a while.

So the mood among sensible people like him yesterday was not "get it right up ye hibees", more relief that his team was still there for him to support.

He said this on thursday:

• They spent money they didnt have
• They stiffed lots of businesses out of money and in among the glee and euphoria this has been forgotten
• The hard work now begins - and Murray also said privately that this is just the start
• They will be skint for years, it is vital that they re-sign some of those promising youngsters
• DDs will provide some cash, but not being in the top div is a huge financial blow
• 2 seasons in the first div (I'm no calling it a championship) is reaslistic
• H

e also laughed and said there is chat about re-signing skacel, something he thinks is daft, but will galvanise fans

Final point, him and I have debated football - to paraphrase (me - how they cheated their way through last 25 years) (him - we are a bunch of underachieving losers) - but all in a decent style.

Neither of us gives it the big one after a derby win - as we know the shoe will shortly be on the other foot.

I reckon that he is representative of the non-kickback / EEN commentators hearts fans - and if that is the case, they know full well and are expecting this to be a very, very tough few years. They may have good season ticket sales next year, but unless those daft laddies accept the £40K PA wages on offer, they may struggle big time to return to the top flight.

........of course, if The Huns go bust again next year??????

[Kato]

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Bad luck getting two Jambo delivery men in Paris...

Sighthill actually. Where it says Paris there, that's just pixels, like most things on here.

[greenpaper55]

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Try putting your hatred of hearts to one side and letting your love of Hibernian rule your head for a day or two. You will feel much better.

Time to focus on us getting better and moving on, that lot are not worth the time of day, onwards and upwards.

[Jim44]

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For what its worth -

Friend / Colleague of mine is a tynecastle season ticket holder, but dont hold that against him, actually a decent guy. Loves to beat us of course, but not stupid enough to think that their financial rollercoaster was consequence free.

Oddly enough, he knows I Am an MP personally too - but had no more inside info than anything on this board. Indeed, Murray told him the same as some of the guys on here, i.e. it was pretty touch and go for a while.

So the mood among sensible people like him yesterday was not "get it right up ye hibees", more relief that his team was still there for him to support.

He said this on thursday:

• They spent money they didnt have
• They stiffed lots of businesses out of money and in among the glee and euphoria this has been forgotten
• The hard work now begins - and Murray also said privately that this is just the start
• They will be skint for years, it is vital that they re-sign some of those promising youngsters
• DDs will provide some cash, but not being in the top div is a huge financial blow
• 2 seasons in the first div (I'm no calling it a championship) is reaslistic
• H

e also laughed and said there is chat about re-signing skacel, something he thinks is daft, but will galvanise fans

Final point, him and I have debated football - to paraphrase (me - how they cheated their way through last 25 years) (him - we are a bunch of underachieving losers) - but all in a decent style.

Neither of us gives it the big one after a derby win - as we know the shoe will shortly be on the other foot.

I reckon that he is representative of the non-kickback / EEN commentators hearts fans - and if that is the case, they know full well and are expecting this to be a very, very tough few years. They may have good season ticket sales next year, but unless those daft laddies accept the £40K PA wages on offer, they may struggle big time to return to the top flight.

........of course, if The Huns go bust again next year??????

Level headed post. The only thing I disagree with is that they will remain 'skint' for any length of time. Once their safety is beyond doubt, there will be a few wealthy punters queuing up to swell the funds ( I'm not sure how this would sit with Budge's business plan and the eventual 'fan ownership' ideal, but I think ways will be found to let others join the party) so I don't think lack of cash will be an issue.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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At least a season (maybe several) in the lower leagues and a level playing field from now on. I would have taken that this time last year. Me personally am miffed that their financial doping probably cost us a scottish cup. They wouldn't have got there in 2006 paying normal rates.
This rivalry is as poisonous as i've ever known it now.

Take it you weren't at that game. Anybody would have beaten us that day.

[PatHead]

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Level headed post. The only thing I disagree with is that they will remain 'skint' for any length of time. Once their safety is beyond doubt, there will be a few wealthy punters queuing up to swell the funds ( I'm not sure how this would sit with Budge's business plan and the eventual 'fan ownership' ideal, but I think ways will be found to let others join the party) so I don't think lack of cash will be an issue.

May be the case but where were these wealthy Jambos the last twice they were looking for investment? I think there are about as many wealthy Jambos as Hibbys and they have been lucky to unearth the Purple One.

God knows what we will do once STF is no longer around.

[emerald green]

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Pishy Breeks Speaks... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27062505

"Now" Sharts are in the right hands... Where have I heard that before...

When it was looking like they were heading for liquidation he was nowhere to be seen & keeping his head down. Politicians like him make me want to puke. Pass the sick bag.

[Craig_in_Prague]

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Level headed post. The only thing I disagree with is that they will remain 'skint' for any length of time. Once their safety is beyond doubt, there will be a few wealthy punters queuing up to swell the funds ( I'm not sure how this would sit with Budge's business plan and the eventual 'fan ownership' ideal, but I think ways will be found to let others join the party) so I don't think lack of cash will be an issue.

Totally agree. They won't be skint at all, far from it.

Still, if cash is thrown at them - and they pay their taxes, their rates, even their players and all other service providers on time, every time - then people can throw whatever money they want at them.

I find it disgusting that a club can actually get away with what they've done, for years upon years.
Not paying your own fking council, for your own training facilities, robbing your own designated charities, screwing HMC&E, and well, we know the rest -
There should be tighter rules, regulation and fair play put in place - a long time ago.
SFA/SPL/FIFA; someone somehow should have never have let a poky wee scottish club ***** the best part of 70M away.

the fact only hibs.net seems to care and know about the whole cheating history, says more for our general public in Scotland. Even some hearts fans themselves, don't even know much about the companies they've screwed.
the mind boggles.

[Bostonhibby]

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Level headed post. The only thing I disagree with is that they will remain 'skint' for any length of time. Once their safety is beyond doubt, there will be a few wealthy punters queuing up to swell the funds ( I'm not sure how this would sit with Budge's business plan and the eventual 'fan ownership' ideal, but I think ways will be found to let others join the party) so I don't think lack of cash will be an issue.

I think this makes sense, but ironically a few cash rich yammish joining the party would be interesting.

The 400,000 did part with their money rather easily when vlad was filling the car boot for his escape fund so FOH, having soaked them again under the banner of "fan ownership" only have to respin it again - presumably the favoured few who cough up the cash will be "fans" in some shape or form - bingo - fan ownership............Simples.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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if they slither of the hook with this one lets look back i have been a hibby for many years now and i remember 3 cup wins the Drybury Cup and 2 League Cup wins which makes 3 they have only one 2 cups in the same period.
3 is more than 2 despite what spin these yams put on it, furthermore they are now relegated and probably will be down for a few seasons

Ah, that makes me nostalgic. Dryburys were never much of a brewery, but their sponsorship of football and cultural events, like the jazz festival should be applauded.

Forgive me, my memory is not what it was. Have we not won the League Cup three times? I'd have thought EVERY Hibs supporter would know that.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Ah, that makes me nostalgic. Dryburys were never much of a brewery, but their sponsorship of football and cultural events, like the jazz festival should be applauded.

Forgive me, my memory is not what it was. Have we not won the League Cup three times? I'd have thought EVERY Hibs supporter would know that.

And every Hearts supporter would have known that they won the SC 3 times.

Still, I've already established that his arithmetic is, um, skewed.

#1+5=70m.

[Waxy]

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Take it you weren't at that game. Anybody would have beaten us that day.

I was at the game. I try not to think about it.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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May be the case but where were these wealthy Jambos the last twice they were looking for investment? I think there are about as many wealthy Jambos as Hibbys and they have been lucky to unearth the Purple One.

God knows what we will do once STF is no longer around.

Maybe they were put off by having to clear the debt? As for us, we have no option but to live within our means - its the only way to survive in the modern game, I'd have thought.

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I was at the game. I try not to think about it.

Pity the Hibs team weren't there. Still, at least we have the compensation of knowing that Hearts spent much more than they needed to. The result being, they ended up skint, and in Division One for the foreseeable future.

If only I could believe that. Sigh.

[Hibrandenburg]

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such as?

i'd say shedding the debt they have (best part of 70M), 1 season out the top league (we may follow suit & not get back to top league ourselves for 2 years) and come back in better financial state than other clubs, is a pretty good outcome.

all this pain & hearts never being good again stuff, sounds good, but I just dont buy it though.

Oh they'll come back alright, but they now have to play within their means and even below their potential for several years. They might avoid liquidation, they might not but they can't avoid the mess they're still in.
They've got a whole generation of fans who believe they can spend spend spend who'll have to come to terms with the fact that they need to save save save and all the time the fans will have to continue to pay pay pay. It's not long before those same fans will be asking why am I paying for this crap and that's when the infighting begins.Tincastle won't be a fun place to be for a while yet

[Kato]

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- its the only way to survive in the modern game, I'd have thought.

Apart from having politicians inviting money launderers in to run your club into the ground then having the same politicians grub your way out of the inevitable insolvency, your right.

[Ronniekirk]

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Totally agree. They won't be skint at all, far from it.

Still, if cash is thrown at them - and they pay their taxes, their rates, even their players and all other service providers on time, every time - then people can throw whatever money they want at them.

I find it disgusting that a club can actually get away with what they've done, for years upon years.
Not paying your own fking council, for your own training facilities, robbing your own designated charities, screwing HMC&E, and well, we know the rest -
There should be tighter rules, regulation and fair play put in place - a long time ago.
SFA/SPL/FIFA; someone somehow should have never have let a poky wee scottish club ***** the best part of 70M away.

the fact only hibs.net seems to care and know about the whole cheating history, says more for our general public in Scotland. Even some hearts fans themselves, don't even know much about the companies they've screwed.
the mind boggles.

You start to think is it just coincidence that the play off were introduced when they were as it was clear hearts were going into administration and Sevco were on there way to buying and overspending thier way back into the top league So how convenient is it that they are both in the championship next season and both could come up .
Love the fact in the Dailly Record today on the hotline hearts fans not only have themselves back up in a season and debt free but challenging Celtic .Not a mention of how they got into the mess they did and how others have lost out financially .It just shows that there is no remorse and the gloat fest has begun already .
I really do hope we beat them in the Derby and put them in thier place as nothing but us beating them will do this .
I do hope the Budgie gets off that perch of hers and makes a media statement when the rubber stamp finally gives al this the sign of approval .In this she should clearly lay out the Wrongs and make it clear what the level of Financial mismanagement was and set out clearly and Transparently how the club will be run over next few years .
Anything short of this just rubs salt into the wounds of those who didn't get their money .
Sevco now know they have Competition and will be interesting to see wages on offer at both clubs .
I am not sure lessons have been learnt from Sevco debacle as it seems to me it's all self congratulatory slaps on the back all round and makiing it clear they are back and will be biggest and best team in the Capitol etc.
so if that can't be used by Butcher as motivation for players then nothing will .

[Phil D. Rolls]

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Apart from having politicians inviting money launderers in to run your club into the ground then having the same politicians grub your way out of the inevitable insolvency, your right.

Oh well, back on Planet Earth, I suppose we just have to get on with it.

[Deansy]

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At least a season (maybe several) in the lower leagues and a level playing field from now on. I would have taken that this time last year. Me personally am miffed that their financial doping probably cost us a scottish cup. They wouldn't have got there in 2006 paying normal rates.
This rivalry is as poisonous as i've ever known it now.

If so, I hope all-concerned at ER use this to galvanise current/future players as they do at the PBS - sick of losing games we SHOULD'VE won because 'their players wanted it more' !

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Oh they'll come back alright, but they now have to play within their means and even below their potential for several years. They might avoid liquidation, they might not but they can't avoid the mess they're still in.
They've got a whole generation of fans who believe they can spend spend spend who'll have to come to terms with the fact that they need to save save save and all the time the fans will have to continue to pay pay pay. It's not long before those same fans will be asking why am I paying for this crap and that's when the infighting begins.Tincastle won't be a fun place to be for a while yet

Spot-on - and going by the comments coming out of the PBS since their 'Great Escape', the muppet-mentality is STILL alive and kicking - totally incapable of learning absolutely SFA !!