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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

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  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

    560 36.70%
  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

    49 3.21%
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    http://translate.googleusercontent.c...ZTGTa95l9Wol_Q

    Shame, looks like Fedotovas is going to be emptied from his new venture before he gets started.

    Looks like he was appointed to a government post by his own bidey-in burd !

    Shocking, that sort of thing would never happen in Scotland.


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    Quote Originally Posted by keekaboo View Post
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    The only place I've seen dates mentioned (or likely to be's) is in The Scotsman/Evening news. I've written some comments on said articles requesting that the 'journalist' tell us where he got that information from. My comments have, in every instance, been removed.

    Telegraph had 18th which Bloomberg confirmed but now provisionally 22nd according to Bloomberg news hounds.

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    Just thinking earlier does anyone think they will have to drop to being a part-time club to reduce costs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergey View Post
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    According to Kickback (admittedly, not the most reliable of sources) there's seemingly a comment in today's Sun that mentions that the date of the meeting is being announced today.

    I'm not sure if this is the case, but I'm not aware (yet) of any confirmed date.
    I've got general rule of thumb with any main stream media. Unless it's a quote from a named individual i always regard it as bollocks

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    Just thinking earlier does anyone think they will have to drop to being a part-time club to reduce costs
    They've always been a part-time football club. The have, however, been full-time in cheating, swindling, sex offending and self-pitying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leggeto View Post
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    Just thinking earlier does anyone think they will have to drop to being a part-time club to reduce costs
    now THAT would be funny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leggeto View Post
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    Just thinking earlier does anyone think they will have to drop to being a part-time club to reduce costs
    It's a definite possibility if it's a new club starting in league 2 playing at Livi or Dunfermline.

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    If the "main stream media" aren't telling us anything what are the non-main stream media telling us? And who are they?

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    Just thinking earlier does anyone think they will have to drop to being a part-time club to reduce costs
    That would be a terrible thing to happen to them - hopefully it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desantos0773 View Post
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    Telegraph had 18th which Bloomberg confirmed but now provisionally 22nd according to Bloomberg news hounds.
    I didn't realise the Telegraph took much interest in Scotland, let alone Scottish Football. Can you post a link to the Telegraph article so we can read the rest of it?
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    I didn't realise the Telegraph took much interest in Scotland, let alone Scottish Football. Can you post a link to the Telegraph article so we can read the rest of it?
    Maybe this?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...val-plans.html

    "April 18 at the earliest" sounds like a guess to me.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by McS****y View Post
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    Maybe this?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...val-plans.html

    "April 18 at the earliest" sounds like a guess to me.....
    Hearts have enough money to keep running until the end of the month but further cavilling in Vilnius could see the 140-year-old Edinburgh club forced into liquidation.

    I love the word "Cavilling" in relation to what is hapenning in Lithuania

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cavilling
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Hearts have enough money to keep running until the end of the month but further cavilling in Vilnius could see the 140-year-old Edinburgh club forced into liquidation.

    I love the word "Cavilling" in relation to what is hapenning in Lithuania

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cavilling
    Cavil... rhymes with Saville....
    Last edited by CropleyWasGod; 10-04-2014 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Hearts have enough money to keep running until the end of the month but further cavilling in Vilnius could see the 140-year-old Edinburgh club forced into liquidation.

    I love the word "Cavilling" in relation to what is hapenning in Lithuania

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cavilling
    I too like the word but I don't think it can be appropriately applied to the situation in Lithuania. I fear the Telegraph have subjected the administrators and creditors of Ukio to a dreadful calumny.

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    Maybe this?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...val-plans.html

    "April 18 at the earliest" sounds like a guess to me.....
    I think Ewing Grahame is a freelancer, his articles turn up in various papers. He was unusually good during the Hun saga. There's a small echo of that in this article:

    "Should Hearts be forced into liquidation then they could emulate Rangers – who suffered the same fate in 2012 – by forming a new club, playing out of Tynecastle and beginning life in the bottom tier, but BDO remains optimistic that a deal can be done to maintain their unbroken lineage."

    Not many hacks will admit that the old Huns' lineage broke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Hearts have enough money to keep running until the end of the month but further cavilling in Vilnius could see the 140-year-old Edinburgh club forced into liquidation.

    I love the word "Cavilling" in relation to what is hapenning in Lithuania

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cavilling

    Yep, the laws ,rules and procedures of another country are a mere irritation when they get in the way of saving the Famous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keekaboo View Post
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    "....he would be opposing Mr Romanov’s extradition to Romania"


    More quality journalism, as brought to you by The Scotsman
    Even bigger surprise is comments STILL not welcome on Vlad's arrest/release - 'The Scotsman' can't run the risk of their system crashing due to all the messages of support ('Stay safe sweet Prince' being the forelock-tuggers most popular phrase) from the Muppets ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by McS****y View Post
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    Maybe this?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...val-plans.html

    "April 18 at the earliest" sounds like a guess to me.....
    Yes was on the Bloomberg news pages. That's what UKIO told Bloomberg as well before they realised it was Easter Friday now 22nd at the earliest. Ukio obviously doing some more due dilligence on value of Tynie and other bids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonHFC View Post
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    ****. Just realised its 'Foundation of Hearts' I set my direct debit up for the 'British Heart Foundation' sorry, wrong charity case.
    If you repeat this very quickly it sounds like "Foundation O' Farts".

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    Did anyone ever get a good translation of Section 3.10.3. Heart of Midlothian Plc (Škotija) ??

    20140317_UKB_bankroto_proceso_apzvalga.pdf

    the google translate is quite poor; but you can see the Administrators (BDO) have said there's high chance of not being able to replace the stadium for residential purposes etc (hooliganism, factories, dangerous materials etc)

    Note: One section translated as:
    Realization of the stadium features. Completed property assessment report reveals that Tynecastle stadium the biggest market value should, if an authorization to develop it as a densely built-up residential area. But there is a high probability that a permit is not obtained, because the site is set advisory / safety zone for near Stocked Hazardous Materials
    (alcohol and ethanol plant containers and plant medicine). According to the club's football administrator, the chances are high that investors would not want to buy a property for fear of the continuing bullying, institutions of political pressure (due to the collapse of the football club).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_1875 View Post
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    I too like the word but I don't think it can be appropriately applied to the situation in Lithuania. I fear the Telegraph have subjected the administrators and creditors of Ukio to a dreadful calumny.
    'Irritating or unnecessary'? The Yams will like that. How very dare these Lithuanians query the offer put in front of them, and refuse to stick to a timetable that suits the Famous!!

    Pishy Breeks is no doubt composing a strongly worded letter - or incoherent verbal rant - intimating that the Liths had better shape up soon or face the consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desantos0773 View Post
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    Yes was on the Bloomberg news pages. That's what UKIO told Bloomberg as well before they realised it was Easter Friday now 22nd at the earliest. Ukio obviously doing some more due dilligence on value of Tynie and other bids.

    Cheers for the info (and the Telegraph link).

    I still have serious doubts about the truth of any meeting dates, as it seems you really can't believe anybody in the Media. There are almost never any quotes from the actual 'sources' of the information (e.g. UKIO Admins). Even when there are, in the case of Adomonis, it never seems to turn out quite the way the media present it.

    I have my doubts that the UKIO Admins would be stupid enough to arrange a meeting for next Friday, having forgotten it was a holiday. All sounds like a scam to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keekaboo View Post
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    Cheers for the info (and the Telegraph link).

    I still have serious doubts about the truth of any meeting dates, as it seems you really can't believe anybody in the Media. There are almost never any quotes from the actual 'sources' of the information (e.g. UKIO Admins). Even when there are, in the case of Adomonis, it never seems to turn out quite the way the media present it.

    I have my doubts that the UKIO Admins would be stupid enough to arrange a meeting for next Friday, having forgotten it was a holiday. All sounds like a scam to me.
    The only meeting of creditors (as opposed to creditors' committee) that we know definitely took place was the very first one. That was advertised with due notice and agenda.

    Whether the subsequent meetings have to be so advertised is not clear.

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    If the "main stream media" aren't telling us anything what are the non-main stream media telling us? And who are they?
    The non main stream media are people who - while not calling themselves journalists - ask the right questions to the right people, then post the reality of the situation on Internet sites like this one. Cwg has written a very good blog on the subject inviting the MSM to "just ask"

    Why should we believe them? Legitimate question and the answer is they've been by and large spot on so far, stretching back 18 months now. Track record, in other words

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    The only meeting of creditors (as opposed to creditors' committee) that we know definitely took place was the very first one. That was advertised with due notice and agenda.

    Whether the subsequent meetings have to be so advertised is not clear.
    The date of the meeting is dependent on UKIO having enough time to gather information about the real value of the ground and any issues with selling it and other bids. They do not believe according to the Bloomberg journalist that they could do this before the end of next week. Hence people saying 18th at earliest but that is Easter so no earlier than 22nd. That is a best case senario. Given the scale and comlexity of their task it looks to be going to happen much later. But as you say there will be announcement.

    Any people claiming to know the date are dealing in speculation which is of course alien to the practices on this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desantos0773 View Post
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    The date of the meeting is dependent on UKIO having enough time to gather information about the real value of the ground and any issues with selling it and other bids. They do not believe according to the Bloomberg journalist that they could do this before the end of next week. Hence people saying 18th at earliest but that is Easter so no earlier than 22nd. That is a best case senario. Given the scale and comlexity of their task it looks to be going to happen much later. But as you say there will be announcement.

    Any people claiming to know the date are dealing in speculation which is of course alien to the practices on this board.
    Looking at the report I attached earlier, it looks to me like they've clued onto the fact they have been had, by BDO and the low valuations of the stadium / land in the past year or two. Now they are exploring that, and I don't expect any meeting any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague View Post
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    Looking at the report I attached earlier, it looks to me like they've clued onto the fact they have been had, by BDO and the low valuations of the stadium / land in the past year or two. Now they are exploring that, and I don't expect any meeting any time soon.

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    Did anyone ever get a good translation of Section 3.10.3. Heart of Midlothian Plc (Škotija) ??

    20140317_UKB_bankroto_proceso_apzvalga.pdf

    the google translate is quite poor; but you can see the Administrators (BDO) have said there's high chance of not being able to replace the stadium for residential purposes etc (hooliganism, factories, dangerous materials etc)

    Note: One section translated as:
    Realization of the stadium features. Completed property assessment report reveals that Tynecastle stadium the biggest market value should, if an authorization to develop it as a densely built-up residential area. But there is a high probability that a permit is not obtained, because the site is set advisory / safety zone for near Stocked Hazardous Materials
    (alcohol and ethanol plant containers and plant medicine). According to the club's football administrator, the chances are high that investors would not want to buy a property for fear of the continuing bullying, institutions of political pressure (due to the collapse of the football club).
    have they ethanol containers not been decommissioned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague View Post
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    Did anyone ever get a good translation of Section 3.10.3. Heart of Midlothian Plc (Škotija) ??

    20140317_UKB_bankroto_proceso_apzvalga.pdf

    the google translate is quite poor; but you can see the Administrators (BDO) have said there's high chance of not being able to replace the stadium for residential purposes etc (hooliganism, factories, dangerous materials etc)

    Note: One section translated as:
    Realization of the stadium features. Completed property assessment report reveals that Tynecastle stadium the biggest market value should, if an authorization to develop it as a densely built-up residential area. But there is a high probability that a permit is not obtained, because the site is set advisory / safety zone for near Stocked Hazardous Materials
    (alcohol and ethanol plant containers and plant medicine). According to the club's football administrator, the chances are high that investors would not want to buy a property for fear of the continuing bullying, institutions of political pressure (due to the collapse of the football club).
    Blatant lying there from BDO I see

    It's just as well us pesky hobos are keeping them informed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coco Bryce View Post
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    Blatant lying there from BDO I see

    It's just as well us pesky hobos are keeping them informed.
    the chances are high that investors would not want to buy a property for fear of the continuing bullying, institutions of political pressure.

    LOL !!

    What, more kicking of Russian hats ?

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